Dana White talks Zuffa potentially buying PBC, boxing’s ‘broken model’
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Take It In Blood
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UFC nikkas buying PBC?
desjardins
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The fact that pbc is funded by “investors” I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the play all along
We don’t really know the details of all the money Haymon initially got from them
Would be crazy if Haymon sold pbc for like a billion.....then stayed on as a manager for all the pbc fighters
We don’t really know the details of all the money Haymon initially got from them
Would be crazy if Haymon sold pbc for like a billion.....then stayed on as a manager for all the pbc fighters
100%. PBC was created to be sold, and the rumors of PBC being up for sale have heated up over this past year. I've even heard that Haymon doesn't have a real interest in sticking around in boxing like King or Arum.
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Oh god I hope this ends up being nothing but talk.
Dallas' 4 Eva
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I'd actually like to see it. Dana will shell out the cash to work with other promotions to get the fights we want, and he will put business first there are way too many big ass egos in boxing.
this is a pretty forward thinking post i must say
The Fukin Prophecy
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Looking at it from a fighters point of view, this would be the absolute worst thing to happen for the sport...
Those UFC cats get paid penny's on the dollar...
Make no mistake, the only reason dudes like Spence, Thurman, Wilder etc are with PBC is ALLAH Haymon...
It won't work without him...
Those UFC cats get paid penny's on the dollar...
Make no mistake, the only reason dudes like Spence, Thurman, Wilder etc are with PBC is ALLAH Haymon...
It won't work without him...
Dallas' 4 Eva
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Hey bro something has to be done, the whole business model of boxing is broken that is just a fact. We should of never had to wait 5 years for Mayweather-Pacquiao. Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua should of fought last year. Spence and Bud shouldn't have to 'get the business right' before a fight happens. Why not have a Canelo-GGG 3 fight, it's a big money fight and it would be good for the sport.
Boxing has become a political dikk swinging contest between all these promotions amd their fukking egos and only the fans suffer because of it. Low key I been tired of it and something should of been done about it a long time ago. If Dana has to come in and whip these mufukkas into shape then so be it. These nikkas get paid millions of dollars to NOT fight the fights we want, fukk they paycheck they need to start doing something to earn it.
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
The boxing model always been broken, the main issue with boxing has always been greedy promoters...
The UFC model is one greedy promoter on steroids with ZERO option for fighters to go elsewhere...I get why the fans like this model, you get the fights you want to see but is it any good for the fighters? The majority of UFC fighters currently put their lives on the line and barely make enough to cover their medical bills while White and UFC investors live the lavish life...That's why the UFC hype has fizzled out, lot of good talented fighters saying fukk that shyt and choosing other sports...
Al Haymon has been the first man to come into the sport of boxing and try to fix the broken model by restoring power back to the fighters...That's why every fighter that's worked with him absolutely loves him...All the promoters on the other-hand hate him because he's killing their dollar margins...That's why Spence/Crawford ain't happening, Bob has to pay and doesn't like his margins...Same with Hearn and Joshua/Widler...All the promoters care about is maximizing their profits and they won't make fights happen till they feel they've cooked the fight enough to generate the margins they want...Yes boxers have egos but all of the fukkery is promoters, boxers just want to get paid for what they do in the ring...
reservoirdogs
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I don't think it happens...
For once Haymon would make himself look like a fraud if he who was always known as the guy who pays his fighters well would sell PBC to the UFC who are known for the opposite of that (among other things of course).
For twice it seems to me that there's a cult around Haymon among his fighters and seemingly they turn down better deals just because of Haymon is telling them to do so. If UFC would buy PBC and they would start to pay these dudes less they would just go to ESPN and DAZN, Dana White wouldn't hold them back.
If UFC wants to make a dent in boxing they gotta spend more on fighters' purses than they are paying in the UFC but if they would do that they would have to raise the pays in the UFC too otherwise there would be a riot there. So they gotta raise the pays everywhere or nowhere, otherwise, they would further alienate their UFC roster.
For once Haymon would make himself look like a fraud if he who was always known as the guy who pays his fighters well would sell PBC to the UFC who are known for the opposite of that (among other things of course).
For twice it seems to me that there's a cult around Haymon among his fighters and seemingly they turn down better deals just because of Haymon is telling them to do so. If UFC would buy PBC and they would start to pay these dudes less they would just go to ESPN and DAZN, Dana White wouldn't hold them back.
If UFC wants to make a dent in boxing they gotta spend more on fighters' purses than they are paying in the UFC but if they would do that they would have to raise the pays in the UFC too otherwise there would be a riot there. So they gotta raise the pays everywhere or nowhere, otherwise, they would further alienate their UFC roster.
reservoirdogs
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About "boxing's broken model"... I get it, everybody does but nobody can really do anything about it, Dana White is no exception. He thinks too much as an idealist, just because he could pull off something close to a monopoly of the best talent in MMA it doesn't mean he will do the same in boxing. MMA is a 30 years old sport which was there for the taking, boxing is a 120 years old sport with a lot more history, networks, betrayals, sides, interests, etc.
Nobody came close to have a monopoly of the best talent for a long long time and it's hard to see Dana White doing it either from scratch or starting out with PBC.
PBC has Spence, Wilder, and Tank as the bigger names now. Out of these Wilder is pretty old (and vulnerable) to build the future on him and Tank is a knucklehead. Spence is the only one who can really make it big IMO but the point is they are very far from the dominance Dana is imagining.
Also, UFC is in contract with ESPN if I know it right, I don't know, how is that compatible with broadcasting boxing on FOX. If anything I rather see them making some side deal with Arum so they can operate on ESPN rather than buying out PBC.
Nobody came close to have a monopoly of the best talent for a long long time and it's hard to see Dana White doing it either from scratch or starting out with PBC.
PBC has Spence, Wilder, and Tank as the bigger names now. Out of these Wilder is pretty old (and vulnerable) to build the future on him and Tank is a knucklehead. Spence is the only one who can really make it big IMO but the point is they are very far from the dominance Dana is imagining.
Also, UFC is in contract with ESPN if I know it right, I don't know, how is that compatible with broadcasting boxing on FOX. If anything I rather see them making some side deal with Arum so they can operate on ESPN rather than buying out PBC.
I think the UFC ESPN deal would be independent from any deal PBC has with FOX because the parent company would be 5he ones buying PBC.
PBC also have Pac who's getting old as well, Thurman, Porter.
They pretty much own the welterweight division but overall i agree that they are far from a monopoly in boxing.