damn!!!! Yvette Carnell is going in on Tariq Nasheed!!!! FBA VS ADOS

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Culture is not genetic. It's not passed down by DNA. If you are born and raised in America that's likely going to be your biggest cultural influence. If your parents moved to Africa before you were born and raised you there do you think you would magically identify with American culture? Of course not, you would talk, act like, and be a part of the culture of the Africans you have been surrounded by your whole life. This kid didn't have a haitian accent based off his IG page. You are doing the cherry picking I spoke about in my post. That kid is american as apple pie whether you like it or not. Nipsey hustle repped his Eitrean roots hard with the flag and all but that was different huh... you love taking the credits of the black immigrants and their American born children as your own. Cant have it both ways if that's the argument you are trying to make.

And since you are going down this "seperate groups" road let's take that line of thinking further. What do you think happens to black America if that were to ever occur? Do you think the picture of FBA will look better or worse? Ironically Yvette has spoken on this in the past but most (not all) colleges and advanced degree programs are filled these days with blacks that are actually black immigrants or the 2nd/ 3rd generation american kids of immigrants. statistics don't separate them out cause everyone just checks the same "black" box but a lot of "positive" data on blacks yall love to use in pro ADOS talking points is heavily skewed and propped up by the inclusion of all groups of blacks in that data. Separating the groups would mean ADOS would be native american status over night. Only 69% of "black" students graduate high school. Let's be real, do you think that number goes up or down when you take out non ADOS and their descendants? This is one of few things I actually agree with Yvette on (although folks call her a pessimist) .. the reality is the picture is really bleak for ADOS if look at the data and stats in that way.

The ADOS black community also owns very little of their own communities. Outside of cacs, Hispanics, arabs, asians, indians, caribbeans, east africans and west africans pretty much own all the businesses in the hood. Of those groups the only one who consistently employs, works with, and does business with ADOS are west africans and caribbeans. Those are the only 2 allies ADOS has left and a major source of economic empowerment if ADOS blacks ever got in touch with their roots and invested in doing business and strengthening ties with those groups and countries. It's not a surprise that white supremacy has focused on destroying those ties. It's a global economy and cacs, asians, and idians are getting rich in africa while ADOS blacks are missing the gravy train. Tariq got yall focused on isolationism from these groups when you should be focused on how you can make money together.
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People dont want to take responsibility for the people in their groups. They offload that responsibility on to ADOS. We have enough problems. YOU attributed him murdering someone with black american like it's a feature. Like people all around the world ,including his home country, dont murder.

Also, it's amazing how "let's be pan-African yall" until a murder happens then all of a sudden you see a clear cut separate culture? :jbhmm: This is the same shyt white people do whenever we talk about appropriation. "We all share culture...nobody owns it". Then 2 seconds later "black culture is single parent households, drugs, violence, gangs, and crime". All of a sudden there's a separate group for the bad shyt. :martin:


Ole boy was draped in another flag, the people repping that need to be held accountable. Don't drop this bullshyt at our doorstep.
 

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They aren’t anywhere near the best we have. There’s millions of black people out fighting and working hard everyday.

These are just the ones who have found a way to monetize black peoples anger, pain and confusion.:smh:

I’m talking about a national representative/spokesman man.
 

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People dont want to take responsibility for the people in their groups. They offload that responsibility on to ADOS. We have enough problems. YOU attributed him murdering someone with black american like it's a feature. Like people all around the world ,including his home country, dont murder.

His culture roots and heritage was never a part of the story until your lord and savior Tariq brought it up. The news never brought it up. The police never brought it up or tried to make that connection to the murder cause there was none. Tariq pulled it out of his ass and you clowns ran with it. Even if he was a first gen immigrant it has no bearing. The only one trying to associate culture/ ethnicity with this murder is yall. Him being born and raised in america is fact though. So it makes you and Tariqs argument even more stupid.
 

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Who said culture is just hip hop and music? yall just make shyt up. I was a Tariq supporter for a long time until he started spewing ignorance. Saying black immigrants are bring in aids and are the reason for everything wrong with black america is dangerous, ignorant, and xenophobic.

And how do you know what culture he was more aligned with? Only thing the kids IG shows was that he was a wanna be rapper and sounded like every other american wack rapper out. He wasnt rapping in haitian creole or with and accent.

BTW, I been said this but -- everyone who hates Tariq now -- was LOVING him when it was all about ADOS/Black America.

It was cool when he was going in on ADOS -- calling BW Bedwenches, and BM C00ns and going in on ADOS though.

Non-ADOS and Half-Akata's changed on his ass quick.

How dare he!?

It's all good to go in on our lazy, no father in the home, don't wanna take advantage, cultureless asses huh?

But, let him come for you or your extended non-ADOS fam (even if they abandoned you) -- and saw them a few times in life -- that's when enough is ENOUGH.

Tariq done messed up out here. He lost his money bag - aka his pre-ADOS/FBA supporters - when he started calling that rampant anti-Black American xenophobia out -- now he out here about to mess up his ADOS supporters.

What a time to be alive!
 

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His culture roots and heritage was never a part of the story until your lord and savior Tariq brought it up. The news never brought it up. The police never brought it up or tried to make that connection to the murder cause there was none. Tariq pulled it out of his ass and you clowns ran with it. Even if he was a first gen immigrant it has no bearing. The only one trying to associate culture/ ethnicity with this murder is yall. Him being born and raised in america is fact though. So it makes you and Tariqs argument even more stupid.

So, him being born and raised in America means what?

Does someone killing someone in Nigeria have to do with him being born and raised in Nigeria?

But I bet -- a ADOS (a full one or half) being born and raised in Nigeria - killing another Nigerian (of the same or different ethnic/tribe) won't have any effect on him being born and raised there. I guessing that Akata-ness and roots will be blamed.
 

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His culture roots and heritage was never a part of the story until your lord and savior Tariq brought it up. The news never brought it up. The police never brought it up or tried to make that connection to the murder cause there was none. Tariq pulled it out of his ass and you clowns ran with it. Even if he was a first gen immigrant it has no bearing. The only one trying to associate culture/ ethnicity with this murder is yall. Him being born and raised in america is fact though. So it makes you and Tariqs argument even more stupid.
So, him being born and raised in America means what?

Does someone killing someone in Nigeria have to do with him being born and raised in Nigeria?

But I bet -- a ADOS (a full one or half) being born and raised in Nigeria - killing another Nigerian (of the same or different ethnic/tribe) won't have any effect on him being born and raised there. I guessing that Akata-ness and roots will be blamed.
How is it possible that y'all still turn the discussion into something about Africans when the discussion is ADOS vs FBA??? :what:
 

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I don't like Tariq. And I think what he said was wrong. But, I do get the point he raised about linking all bad, dysfunctional Black (race) people who are in America - regardless of ethnicity and loyalties to ADOS and our said culture.

You think him being raised in America - and assuming he was raised around ADOS - made him do the acts he committed.

Tariq is the leader and public face of the ADOS and FBA whether you like it our not. He has successfully co-opted it and He has never apologized for his comments and has doubled down. The damage is already done and you can't build a house on a shaky foundation. Tariq, yvette, and tone are still largely irrelevant in the mainstream. Tariq is more popular but if they ever did get big enough their credibility would be destroyed whenever the media wanted by those comments and their association with it. It's indefensible.

and the kid being raised in a america is jsut a fact. However there is no correlation between his culture (which is American) or ethnicity and the murder. Tariq tried to make that point while misrepresenting his cultural identity. Murder and crime happens everywhere.
 

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It means he is American dumbass.

Thanks for your comment :smile:

So, help this "dumbass" out. Since, being American means Nationality.

Therefore, does that make someone who is an Haitian or ADOS being born and raised in Nigeria -- killing someone in Nigeria -- make them killing someone due to being raised in Nigeria and around said Nigerian cultures, tribes and people?

Would love to know you thoughts on this. :smile:
 

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Thanks for your comment :smile:

So, help this "dumbass" out. Since, being American means Nationality.

Therefore, does that make someone who is an Haitian or ADOS being born and raised in Nigeria -- killing someone in Nigeria -- make them killing someone due to being raised in Nigeria and around said Nigerian cultures, tribes and people?

Would love to know you thoughts on this. :smile:

Yes. Nigeria is very violent and cut throat.
 

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No, I am aligned with my community and people. Both illegal and legal immigration are not beneficial to Black Americans/ADOS.

So, I guess that makes Trump aligned with US. Cause, we are aligned with ourselves.

As this isn't new and has been a issue in our community since Reconstruction.

African-American Attitudes towards United States Immigration Policy on JSTOR

But, you wouldn't know that - cause you don't care about learning about ADOS history and our communities.

The only "lack of intelligence" (hilarious BTW) is your own.

I understand though...You were taught being Black American aint shyt to be proud of. Live your life Nigerian Wonder. I get it. :smile:

Anyone who doesn't understand how illegal immigrants hurt all americans (blacks the hardest) is highly ignorant..
 
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