Damn.. The Guardian Destroys MSNBC In 17 Minute Debate On Spying!

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Greenwald occasionly makes some good points but I can't stand dude. They need to bring lawrence o'donnell on to shyt on him again:

Glenn Greenwald vs. Lawrence O'Donnell on 'Morning Joe' - YouTube

he didn't shyt on him

He stated 2 specific things that LOD supposedly said. LOD said "the videotape please, I ask questions Glenn." Greenwald said yes and lets look at the transcripts when they come out to discuss this further. Point goes to nobody.....
 

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he didn't shyt on him

He stated 2 specific things that LOD supposedly said. LOD said "the videotape please, I ask questions Glenn." Greenwald said yes and lets look at the transcripts when they come out to discuss this further. Point goes to nobody.....

He shytted on him for the bigger point of him being a true liberal that actually worked in Congress and knows what can realistically be done and what can not...while Glen is the typical fantasy "liberal-tarian" that arrogantly think politics/life is as simple as what they put on paper.
 

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He shytted on him for the bigger point of him being a true liberal that actually worked in Congress and knows what can realistically be done and what can not...while Glen is the typical fantasy "liberal-tarian" that arrogantly think politics/life is as simple as what they put on paper.

Then maybe these fakkit ass politicians need to stop promising to do shyt they know they can't. Its the politicians who benefit from pedaling fantasies, not people like glen.
 

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Damn, I didn't even know Obama Administration has persecuted whistleblowers at the double the rate of all other Presidents combined.

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Barack Obama said:
Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled as they have been during the Bush administration. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government.
:obama: :troll:
 

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I hate when Mika plays stupid more then I hate her father being a guest.
isn't her father the dude who created "That arab Nicca" whose name shall not be mentioned.


I aint trying to make the te//rror watch list :heh:
 

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:rudy: cape for bam... :what: the same chick dat went hard for hilary

Mika jumped off the Hillary bandwagon by early 2008; she has had Obama's nuts in her mouth ever since.
She is back to loving Hillary now since it is acceptable but she's been riding hard for Obama for a minute.
 

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He shytted on him for the bigger point of him being a true liberal that actually worked in Congress and knows what can realistically be done and what can not...while Glen is the typical fantasy "liberal-tarian" that arrogantly think politics/life is as simple as what they put on paper.

I agree with this to a certain extent, and that's why the whole "they're all the same" "they're all working on this master plot" shyt irks me. There are specific sectors where this is true, but take a look at the proposed democratic bills that did not make it out of committee vs. the republicans bill from 09-10 and tell me they're the same. I promise, when I was an intern and they were having us help draft legislation sometimes, it certainly was not as part of a greater new world order.

BUT, there are also problems with being in government for too long. Special interests get to you, and sometimes your perspective becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. You form relationships will people, etc. I can't vouch for you entirely. It's somewhere in the middle.

But I was talking to my cousin (who is a female) in NJ today and she tells me about how when she was in HR, she could tell that women were being underpaid, but also that she sees no difference in the parties. Yet, right now the NJ assembly is attempting to pass a bill much more comprehensive than than the Lilly Ledbetter Bill, which Christie vetoed last year. It's comments like those, that get to me. They just don't realize how hard it is to get anything through. I like Greenwald more than I like O'Donnell, but I see both sides. But you need both types of people, they need each other.
 
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