Damn brehs another brother killed by Houston police shot 10 times R.I.P Alva Braziel

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But did you see what I wrote?


Nonviolent revolutions have the same success rate as violent revolutions. That doesn't mean that violent revolutions "never" succeed.


The basic cut-off is 3.5%. You get more than 3.5% of the population actively involved in revolution (not just moral support, but full-on doing shyt) then you'll probably overthrow the government. That's true whether you're holding guns or not.


It's a lot easier to get 3.5% of the people engaging in revolution when you're not killing people. That's why in the last 100 years especially, nonviolent revolutions have been way more successful than violent ones. South Africa, India, Phillipines, practically the whole Iron Curtain, etc. From 1900 to 2006, violent revolutions succeeded 26% of the time and nonviolent revolutions succeeded 53% of the time, primarily because the nonviolent revolutions attracted a wider base of support more consistently.


But even though the requisite numbers are similar, the aftereffects aren't. WAY more people die in violent revolutions than in nonviolent ones. Over a million guys died freeing Vietnam from France/US, only 7,000 died freeing India from Britain. Afghanistan went to arms against the USSR and won, but they're STILL dying there, whereas Poland had Solidarity to get free from USSR and they chill. I don't remember the exact numbers, but something like 70% of violent revolutions are followed by non-democratic, dictatorial control - that's what happened in Africa. When the guys who win do it by using the same brutality the White man did, then they end up ruing over their people in the exact same way. Different color of master, same results.


That's why I hate this "it's the only thing they understand" bullshyt. No it's not. It might be the only thing that they know now, but it's not the only thing they're capable of understanding. It's just the only thing you're willing to try. Britain was ruthless - look up the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. USSR was the epitome of evil in a lot of people's eyes. White South Africa was ridiculously bad too. And something other than violence still could bring all of them down in the end.

I'm going to bed....

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

But did you see what I wrote?


Nonviolent revolutions have the same success rate as violent revolutions. That doesn't mean that violent revolutions "never" succeed.


The basic cut-off is 3.5%. You get more than 3.5% of the population actively involved in revolution (not just moral support, but full-on doing shyt) then you'll probably overthrow the government. That's true whether you're holding guns or not.


It's a lot easier to get 3.5% of the people engaging in revolution when you're not killing people. That's why in the last 100 years especially, nonviolent revolutions have been way more successful than violent ones. South Africa, India, Phillipines, practically the whole Iron Curtain, etc. From 1900 to 2006, violent revolutions succeeded 26% of the time and nonviolent revolutions succeeded 53% of the time, primarily because the nonviolent revolutions attracted a wider base of support more consistently.


But even though the requisite numbers are similar, the aftereffects aren't. WAY more people die in violent revolutions than in nonviolent ones. Over a million guys died freeing Vietnam from France/US, only 7,000 died freeing India from Britain. Afghanistan went to arms against the USSR and won, but they're STILL dying there, whereas Poland had Solidarity to get free from USSR and they chill. I don't remember the exact numbers, but something like 70% of violent revolutions are followed by non-democratic, dictatorial control - that's what happened in Africa. When the guys who win do it by using the same brutality the White man did, then they end up ruing over their people in the exact same way. Different color of master, same results.


That's why I hate this "it's the only thing they understand" bullshyt. No it's not. It might be the only thing that they know now, but it's not the only thing they're capable of understanding. It's just the only thing you're willing to try. Britain was ruthless - look up the Jallianwala Bagh massacre. USSR was the epitome of evil in a lot of people's eyes. White South Africa was ridiculously bad too. And something other than violence still could bring all of them down in the end.

You're comparing America with all those other countries without realizing that violence is uniquely embedded in the DNA of America moreso than those aforementioned countries. Yes, violence is the only thing that American white people respect. It's in the movies, the video games, the TV shows. The only way to to solve a problem in America is to shoot it out, beat them up, have Batman kick someone's ass, etc. He's not saying a black revolution in America would be successful, just that white people will take you more seriously if you're willing to spill blood.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're comparing America with all those other countries without realizing that violence is uniquely embedded in the DNA of America moreso than those aforementioned countries. Yes, violence is the only thing that American white people respect. It's in the movies, the video games, the TV shows. The only way to to solve a problem in America is to shoot it out, beat them up, have Batman kick someone's ass, etc. He's not saying a black revolution in America would be successful, just that white people will take you more seriously if you're willing to spill blood.

That's just not true. Martin had them shook as hell. The BPP had some good ideas, but in the end they wrecked it with their violence and just got themselves killed - and the amount of resources it took the authorities to destroy the BPP were far smaller than what Martin went up against and won battles against. If Gandhi had taken the things he did in White South Africa or British India and did them in America, he would have had them on their knees just as easy. You can't say that violence wasn't embedded in their DNA - White America and White South Africa both CAME from White Britain. And claiming that violence wasn't embedded in Soviet Russia is just ridiculous - they were MORE violent than America is, not less. Even now, Russia is violent as hell. Yet the places that had revolution (the Poles, the Czechs, East Germany, and Lithuania and all the other former Soviet states that rebelled) are free. Meanwhile, would you really want to be Chechen or Afghani?

And yeah, America promotes violence all over the place. That's what they have to do to maintain the culture and justify it. The people in power don't know there's another way, or don't want others to believe it. But saying, "They promote violence, so we're going to have to be violent" is stupid as hell. You don't have to listen to them, you know.

You don't make White America less brutal and violent by acting like them.

 

[Jimi Swagger]

Think Melo is the most sensible person of us all.

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[DonKnock]

That's just not true. Martin had them shook as hell. The BPP had some good ideas, but in the end they wrecked it with their violence and just got themselves killed - and the amount of resources it took the authorities to destroy the BPP were far smaller than what Martin went up against and won battles against. If Gandhi had taken the things he did in White South Africa or British India and did them in America, he would have had them on their knees just as easy. You can't say that violence wasn't embedded in their DNA - White America and White South Africa both CAME from White Britain. And claiming that violence wasn't embedded in Soviet Russia is just ridiculous - they were MORE violent than America is, not less. Even now, Russia is violent as hell. Yet the places that had revolution (the Poles, the Czechs, East Germany, and Lithuania and all the other former Soviet states that rebelled) are free. Meanwhile, would you really want to be Chechen or Afghani?

And yeah, America promotes violence all over the place. That's what they have to do to maintain the culture and justify it. The people in power don't know there's another way, or don't want others to believe it. But saying, "They promote violence, so we're going to have to be violent" is stupid as hell. You don't have to listen to them, you know.

You don't make White America less brutal and violent by acting like them.

The cacs that went to South Africa were from the Netherlands, not Britain

 

[Wild self]

they want to exterminate us black men first.

Yeah.

And make black women bedwench.

 

[Wild self]

this looks like a genocide campaign.

and slowly but surely the list of things you cant do in Amerikkka while black grows larger.

Eventually it will just be illegal to be black in Amerikkka....period.

Watch....cops will pop a celebrity black man or athlete to send a message next.

Imagine if the cops clapped up Gucci Mane or Future? The revolution would come since yesterday. And the whole social order would collapse.

 

[Wild self]

Breh the thing is they want to escalate the situations because the police force in America is revenue driven. The bodies that create the revenue is normally black and Latin.

You can not have a police force that is revenue driven and not expect to have shyt like this happen.

For example I have mentioned this a few times on here. I travel all around the world for work. I have gone to places like Europe and you will see cops doing community work. Such as seeing a lost child and walking around to find the child's parents. Helping old women cross the street and helping people with directions.

Now ask yourself this.....when was the last time you seen cops do this in America (outside of small towns). Cops in the US will sit on a side of a road with a speed gun trying to get tickets. Or driving through a neighborhood shaking down folks trying to see if they have drugs.

The police in the US are used to strictly and I mean strictly to generate revenue for cities and states.

I have traveled even in China and the US loves to talk about human rights and all that shyt there. I barely even seen the cops when there and they sure as hell don't sit at the side of the road trying to catch people going over 10 miles over the speed limit. Or setting up road blocks like in southern towns and cities to harrass the poor black folks and get them on old warrants.

Which makes these cops all the more disposable. There will be another mass shooting and killing of cops very soon. Kill one innocent black man, which results on the killing of 20 more cops.

 

[Wild self]

You know the difference between "anecdote" and "data", fool?


I didn't say that violence didn't happen. I said that more often than not, it's consequences are bad. You want to be the White man? You want to model yourself after his most evil actions? If he's your idol, and you want his reward, then try to take it. But it ain't going to serve you well.


And you don't think the fact that America started with a bunch of guns isn't 90% of the reason why we're the only developed country with 35,000 dying from guns every year and 1,000+ getting murked by the cops every year? And you want MORE reliance on guns, after if obsession with guns didn't fukk us up in the first place. Canada never went to war with England, and they ended up as or more free than we are. They're influenced by some of our bad habits, but they're still not killing each other or getting killed by the cops or going all over the world trying to start shyt with a fraction the energy we are.


You mention slavery, why? Because you think that was a GOOD thing that we should model our own actions on?


And the Civil War? What the hell did that lead to? 600,000 souls dead, and it just goes straight into KKK dominance of the South, sharecropping, Jim Crow, and full-on segregation for the next 100 years. What started with violence and power continued with violence and power.


World War 2 is a GREAT response too. 60,000.000 people dead. Germany and Japan and Italy trying to solve their shyt with violence, and what good did it do them? America and Britain and Russia responding with violence, and what good did it do us? By the end, like you point out, we're murking 100,000 civilians at a time and looking just as bad as the enemy. The second WW2 ends, the "winners" go at each other's throats, grab all they can, and we have the Korean War, Vietnam War, and everything else in the next 45 years of Cold War and millions more dead. Not even to mention how we F'd up the whole Middle East in the aftermath too. Violence begets violence begets violence.....


Tell me again how all that shyt you mentioned is a GOOD thing to follow after? You point out the worst moments of American history, and point out that they're all VIOLENT. Get the message yet?

We got to have a near extinction conflict before things improve like Europe

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

It takes hunger to spark a revolution. If nikkas/indios in Venezuela are hunting dogs, cats, and pigeons but ain't overthrowing shyt, these diabetic obese weed/syrup-addled American fools ain't bout to do shyt.

Some dumbass wandering around on the corner at midnight with a revolver out, after his chick told his retarded ass to be back in the house lol. fukk outta here.

Fools'll either be back at work/feeling like disappointed dunsky's on their former lunch break when they realize they gotta be back out job hunting/still unemployed and broke like last week when Manic Monday rolls around.

Your are disgusting.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Alva Braziel appeared to put his hands up and turn around for police

 

[newworldafro]

Alva Braziel appeared to put his hands up and turn around for police

Wow...

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

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[Red Shield]

It takes hunger to spark a revolution. If nikkas/indios in Venezuela are hunting dogs, cats, and pigeons but ain't overthrowing shyt, these diabetic obese weed/syrup-addled American fools ain't bout to do shyt.

Some dumbass wandering around on the corner at midnight with a revolver out, after his chick told his retarded ass to be back in the house lol. fukk outta here.

Fools'll either be back at work/feeling like disappointed dunsky's on their former lunch break when they realize they gotta be back out job hunting/still unemployed and broke like last week when Manic Monday rolls around.

nikkas lost

 

[mcdivit85]

White Supremacy keeps trucking on

Peace