Daaaaaaamn...Nas KILLED Kelis on Bye Baby

[spliz]

I gotta say, unless you've spent even 5 minutes in the presence of Kelis, I find it hard to see how someone say "ah-ha, he shouldn't have married that bytch in the 1st place". It's just weird. Outside of videos and interviews about her music, I know nothing of that chick to say what Nas shouldn't have done. It's one thing to read rumors on the net and look at someone on TV, and another to actually spend time (years in fact) with a person and make a decision on how much you like them. He turned out to have a marriage go bad after 7 years being together, shyt happens... she turned out to be kinda fukked up. But I think Nas knows who she is better than any of us do. We just know what we read... not anything we personally experienced with her.

Basically the same shyt I was tryna say...

 

[H.S.]

Nas ethered half the people in this thread with that last verse.

 

[Art Barr]

I don't like how Nas clowns dudes for living with their baby moms, and then brags about trying to turn Kelis into a decent woman.




What, you want them dudes to get hit over the head with child support, Nas. Huh?

sounds like his friends living with their bm.

knew females much better than nas did.

as his friends living with their bm's are takers.

while nas is getting took.

i don't see nas's logic in tryin that angle at all.

not to mention he demonizes and further moves away the people/listeners.

who are his male core audience by being so profoundly ignorant and arrogant.

it is like another slap in the fsce like nas on hate me now and writing getting jiggy with it.

nas sounds like the dude who you try to warn about a broad.

he is so in love with playing the role. about possibly getting played and taken.

then after he gets taken by said female.

is not man enough to prop his man's who told him so.

when his man's was just looking out for him, like a real friend is supposed to.

this is why nikkaz say nas is funny style in his project.

you not no smarter than anybody else, nas.

cut the bullshyt,...you exposed yourself, with this bullshyt emo siss ass crybaby record.

wtf, happened to the nikka with az talembout his baddest stallions.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

at nas already dissing art barr in the song already

i don't stay with my bm.

plus,..i never was the type to even be with her, either.

also,..i have a house i stay in where i pay no bills.

given to me by a former lover.

i never was in a committed relationship with.

where we only fukked and kicked it about five or six times.

i was never in love,..nor was i bf/gf with.

nor did i lie to create a false sense for her either.

nor did i fake a relationship for a nut,..

so me and nas are completely juxtaposed.

i did not need a record deal to pull the weird chick.

nor did i get taken, on any level nesr nas with his bm or kelis.

so i did not get dissed at all. i lol'd at his record cause he sounded like a wounded sucker for love. grasping at straws for some sort of dignity.

which is a lauced't.

as anyone who witnessed or read about pharrell's issues wih kelis.

could have told you she was a golddigger and a nut job.

plus she was not that cute either,....not to mention nas takes pride in her ack'n a fool and being so-called gangsta in the street, showing out to the cops in a foreign country.

sorry but lisa raye was lambasted/sonned for violating in another country as an emissary's wife. so pardon me for noticing his flaws..

plus his fake confidence to shield his hurt.


art barr

former illinois divorce attorney certification exam manager

 

[Ziggiy]

sounds like his friends living with their bm.

knew females much better than nas did.

as his friends living with their bm's are takers.

while nas is getting took.

i don't see nas's logic in tryin that angle at all.

not to mention he demonizes and further moves away the people/listeners.

who are his male core audience by being so profoundly ignorant and arrogant.

it is like another slap in the fsce like nas on hate me now and writing getting jiggy with it.

nas sounds like the dude who you try to warn about a broad.

he is so in love with playing the role. about possibly getting played and taken.

then after he gets taken by said female.

is not man enough to prop his man's who told him so.

when his man's was just looking out for him, like a real friend is supposed to.

this is why nikkaz say nas is funny style in his project.

you not no smarter than anybody else, nas.

cut the bullshyt,...you exposed yourself, with this bullshyt emo siss ass crybaby record.

wtf, happened to the nikka with az talembout his baddest stallions.



art barr

Art Barr seriously, how do YOU know what Nas's friends told him about Kelis? How do ANY of us really know the ends and outs of that relationship besides what Nas and Kelis tell us? The truth of the matter is that before the divorce proceedings, we knew very little about Nas and Kelis as a couple. She used to date pharrell? Well Beyonce used to date Marques Houston, Mary J. blidge use to date KC from Jodeci, and a bunch of other R&B chicks used to date a bunch of Artists/producers/executives. EVERYBODY in the industry has a history. What we know is that she had her own lane, her own career, her own thing BEFORE she met Nas, that's all we know conclusively before rumors take over. He married her, the relationship lasted 7 years and they divorced. Nas speaks on it as it is HIS RIGHT to do so seeing as he went through it. Then you say that men who have Baby Mothers are "takers" and that Nas, in act of marriage got "took" but life isn't supposed to be about men being " takers" over women, that's a demonic thought if ever there was one. Seeding a woman and simply treating her like nothing afterwards is one of the things that contribute to the pathetic state of African American youth today, and continues a destructive cycle of black children growing up without proper father figures taking care of home. Relationships and commitment ARE the responsible and proper thing to do, which is what Nas is alluding to in the last verse. He made an "honest woman" out of the woman he chose to love, he didn't just seed her up and treat her like shyt.

 

[Higher Tech]

Song is dope to me. Roses too.

Ain't changin my mind on that shyt.

 

[spliz]

Art Barr seriously, how do YOU know what Nas's friends told him about Kelis? How do ANY of us really know the ends and outs of that relationship besides what Nas and Kelis tell us? The truth of the matter is that before the divorce proceedings, we knew very little about Nas and Kelis as a couple. She used to date pharrell? Well Beyonce used to date Marques Houston, Mary J. blidge use to date KC from Jodeci, and a bunch of other R&B chicks used to date a bunch of Artists/producers/executives. What we know is that she had her own lane, her own career, her own thing BEFORE she met Nas, that's all we know conclusively before rumors take over. He married her, the relationship lasted 7 years and they divorced. Nas speaks on it as it is HIS RIGHT to do so seeing as he went through it.

EXACTLY..these nikkas should legit be ashamed of themselves wit some of this bullshyt they spewin...like I said I don't even know the ends and outs of my own family member relationships...

 

[Art Barr]

its funny, yall dudes catchin feelings dissin him for having a failed marriage because yall too scurred to have one yourself. its that simple. if you living with ya baby moms and you dont want to marry her because you're worried that one day she gonna leave and take half, you scurred plain and simple. what kind of relationship is that? one foot in and one foot out you scurred of living. so you justify it by dissing a man who actually stepped up and it didn't work out for.

yall dudes is too scurred to even make that kind of commitment. and if ya bm aint wife material how you consider that a win anway? you cant make a how a housewfie but you gladly make her your bm? good job, thats really something worth braggin about.

nikka,..

i am not catching feelings.

i learned and know the basics and governing concepts of marriage/divorce law.

as i worked and gained perspectice from reading.

plus, once owning the study guides given to illinois hopeful divorce attorneys.

i am also a pook and have my g straight.

which i got in order after having the coward runner role player, golddigger and bm from hell.

of which when my daighter was born,..i worked on fixing past relationship errors and flaws, i owned up to. to eradicate the simp/player aesthetic which all revolves around a female.
plus i happened to work in marriage/divorce law sector.

i learned a hell of alot and worked on myself purposefully.

the same books i read and perspective i gained...nas the all seeing soothsayer well read sage of hiphop could have read as well.

nas is gloating while failing at lessons other rappers already know not to fall for.

after carmen,..nas should never have been taken or played again.

yet,..he said it himself...he is cheater swag a chick magnet.

nikkaz on that cheater swag shyt have so much ego. when it gets deflatrd does nuffin but expose the bytch nikka, and wimp/simp ass coward cheater they are.

in other words:

NAS LAUCED't!!!


art barr

 

[Methodical]

I ain't bother listen to it so I'll wait til release day, listen to fresh like I did back in 90's.

 

[Art Barr]

Art Barr seriously, how do YOU know what Nas's friends told him about Kelis? How do ANY of us really know the ends and outs of that relationship besides what Nas and Kelis tell us? The truth of the matter is that before the divorce proceedings, we knew very little about Nas and Kelis as a couple. She used to date pharrell? Well Beyonce used to date Marques Houston, Mary J. blidge use to date KC from Jodeci, and a bunch of other R&B chicks used to date a bunch of Artists/producers/executives. EVERYBODY in the industry has a history. What we know is that she had her own lane, her own career, her own thing BEFORE she met Nas, that's all we know conclusively before rumors take over. He married her, the relationship lasted 7 years and they divorced. Nas speaks on it as it is HIS RIGHT to do so seeing as he went through it.

dawg,..he paid pharrell like a gajillion dollars for like one beat on one of his last albums.

i know if i was him and i was fukk'n this guys ex girl.

pharrell went public in or to son.

i would have listened, and gotten insider trading on.

plus, kept my third eye open.

as soon as i spotted behavior that was a bytch playing the role. kelis would have been 86'd!

me, personally kelis is not attractive enough to even court or even wanna fukk.

she looks like a fukk'n kewpie doll in the face.

also,..females who golddig and play the role Are all the same.

they deflect on a possible bad father figure.

have hordes of looks and styles.

have pr or were with other guys who have a certain aesthetic publically.

it ain't rocket science,..as a man, you are supposed to have your g tight.

plus, your ability to discern character and accurrately and readily discern female labels as healthy committal or non-committal types.

kelis off one single alone is non-comittal type.

plus she has bad pr from a past contemporaries on the wave length of courtney love.

in general, if the common idealogy of these relationships are:

if ocho cinco is stoopid for fukking and being engaged with toine ex bytch on tv.

if mark anthony is stoopid for marrying j'lo after the puff/bennifer, etc.
if ye is stoopid for being with kim k after ray j's tape

how is nas smart for fukking and being engaged with pharrell's ex.

what more has to be said,..joe!!

if you know women and are good at accurrately labeling them.

you should not have an issue,..with seeing nas was setting himself up for failure from the beginning with kelis.

learn your history,...most importantly, if you want to get married.

know the labels and how to properly and accurrately apply them to the female you are looking to wife.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

you say that men who have Baby Mothers are "takers" and that Nas, in act of marriage got "took" but life isn't supposed to be about men being " takers" over women, that's a demonic thought if ever there was one. Seeding a woman and simply treating her like nothing afterwards is one of the things that contribute to the pathetic state of African American youth today, and continues a destructive cycle of black children growing up without proper father figures taking care of home. Relationships and commitment ARE the responsible and proper thing to do, which is what Nas is alluding to in the last verse. He made an "honest woman" out of the woman he chose to love, he didn't just seed her up and treat her like shyt.

alright i see you ammended this.

so i will honor your additional portion and still styles clash you off the ramp and through the tables.

after i styles clash you on the floor of the powder room for added emphasis.

art barr

first off you are deflecting.

in general, single mothers are eic vampires/prostitutes playing a role for a check. so any girl sleeping with you raw with no bc is a taker looking to trap you, period.
as most black women who have kids out of wedlock are guilty of.

that even now,..college grad females use the trickbaby ploy and are educated in integrated social sciences about the cause of poverty.

which is having children out of wedlock.

why do you think white, asian, any other denomination.

other than black women are completely frowned upon for having children out of wedlock.

it is because those other denominations have their culture intact.

plus know historically the family socio-economic dangers of children born out of wedlock equals poverty.

next we are black men.

who get caught up in the ego and ignorance of fukk'n raw.

that black females have made us a patsy for generations.

while deflecting old traditionalism and reverse sexist laws on us.

if you do not know or see that.

then, you are not educated or experienced enough as a blackman dealing with females.

that is why it is called, the game!!

next you can not make an honest woman, out of a gold digger playing the role.

if you think that you are a common fool welled in the idiocy of buffonery.


art barr


ROYAL FLUSH :

chu can't make a ho a house wife,
they bad luck when you roll dice

memorize by the whip
when we go out to eat,..you always ask where it is
want me to oay your rent, bytch i got my own crib
wanna get ya hair done, bytch supply ya own wig
cuhz, when a nikka locked't up,..y'all ain't doing no bid
stop coming to see them nikkaz,..dey can't see their own kids
when ya bread get low,..they gon find some new dikk
a new trick,..
someone they can get shyt and vote wit,
go coast to coast with, bankcard the whole shyt

they don't wanna see a nikka up,
only bout a nikka bucks
chu think you love dis bytch,..to her, you just a simple fukk!!

now how the fukk does royal flush who is from queens knows all this,..and nas the sage book reader wise intelligent doesn't.

NAS LAUCED'T!!!


art barr

 

[Ziggiy]

dawg,..he paid pharrell like a gajillion doars for like one beat on one of his last albums.

i know if i was him and i was fukk'n this guys ex girl.

pharrell went public in or to son.

i would have listened, and gotten insider trading on.

plus, kept my third eye open and as soon as i spotted behavior that was a bytch playing the role. kelis wiuld hav been 86'd!

also,..females who golddig and play the role Are all the same.

they deflect on a possible bad father figure.

have hordes of looks and styles.

have pr or were with other guys who have a certain aesthetic publically.

it ain't rocket sciene,..as a man, you are supposed to have your g tight.

okus your abilitybto discern character and accurrately and readily discern female labels as healthy committal or non-committal types.

kelis off one single alone is non-comittal type.

plus she has bad pr from a past contemporaries on the wave length of courtney love.

in general, if the common idealogy of these relationships:

if ocho cinco is stoopid for fukking and being engaged with toine ex bytch on tv.

if mark anthony is stoopid for marrying j'lo after the puff/bennifer, etc.
if ye is stoopid for being with kim k after ray j's tape

how is nas smart for fukking and being engaged with pharrell's ex.

what more has to be said,..joe!!

if you know women and are good at accurrately labeling them.

you should not have an issue,..with seeing nas was setting himself up for failure from the beginning wihbkelis.

learn your history,...most importantly, if you want to get married.

know the labels and hwo to propey and accurrstely apply them to the female you are lookin to wife.




art barr

dawg,..he paid pharrell like a gajillion doars for like one beat on one of his last albums.

He never paid for that rumored beat for one. That was a rumor started by STU Top Dude in the old Nas BBS in 2005. Nas has himself refuted this.

MTV News.com: Nas: Major Figure




pharrell went public in or to son.

i would have listened, and gotten insider trading on.

plus, kept my third eye open and as soon as i spotted behavior that was a bytch playing the role. kelis wiuld hav been 86'd!

Again, how the hell do WE KNOW what conversation went down between Pharrell and Nas? How do we know absolutely what Pharrell "supposedly" warned Nas about? Again she was a female he dated. Many a man have dated many a woman, this is a fact of life. And from the outside looking in exactly what type of gold digging behavior did Kelis exhibit for us to judge her on? She still released albums and music after the marriage. She spoke highly and supportive of Nas in any interview she had. She stood by him and supported him at the Grammy's when he was calling his album ******. She never truly spoke a bad word against Nas publically until the divorce. Again thats from the outside looking IN which is where all of us are in this situation.




also,..females who golddig and play the role Are all the same.

they deflect on a possible bad father figure.

have hordes of looks and styles.

have pr or were with other guys who have a certain aesthetic publically.

it ain't rocket sciene,..as a man, you are supposed to have your g tight.


So now we're generalizing. Ok, that's cool, and even I can concede that you may be right on that particular assessment. But again we're not talking about the " average" woman. We're talking about an artist, a PERFORMER. Every R&B singer under the sun has "hordes" of looks and styles. Beyonce, Amerie, Mary J. blidge, Alicia Keyes, Rhiannna,etc. They have certain images that may or may not be true representations of themselves, just as Nas has the Escobar persona, the Nastradamus persona, Gods Son,etc. again we can't KNOW who Kelis is personally because we don't know her, so how can WE say what/who she truly is. Only Nas has that insight,mtherefore only Nas has that right.



if mark anthony is stoopid for marrying j'lo after the puff/bennifer, etc.
if ye is stoopid for being with kim k after ray j's tape

how is nas smart for fukking and being engaged with pharrell's ex.

Jennifer Lopez was married Twice before Mark Anthonh and Kim Kardashian was married before she got with Ray J and before she got with Kanye. Those two examples have a HISTORY of failed relationships, what kind of true history did Kelis have ? Nas was her first marriage. And even with all of that, again, we DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. Who am I to say that Jennifer Looez didn't truly love Mark Anthony? Who am i to say that Kim doesn't really love Kanye? Do I, you, or anybody else that posts on a hip hop message board truly KNOW the hearts, minds, and thoughts of these people? Nas fell in love with a woman, a fellow artist such as himself, and it didn't work out ultimately. That is all we KNEW before the divorce paperwork leaked, before Kelis started tweeting shyt, before Nas released this album. We can only go off FACT not conjecture.

 

[REdefinition]

didn't read thread, but I thought the Kelis references were pretty tastefully done, especially for a guy who's gone through as nasty(npi) of a divorce as Nas. He spoke on the situation from his perspective in a mature way. This ain't no Eminem "Kim" shyt.

 

[Art Barr]

Artful Barrbarian, I owe you a call, gonna try to hit you up this weekend. I've been on the move.

no doubt,....

this thread is more of that shyt though...

well back to the regularly scheduled tabling program.

art barr

 

[Art Barr]

didn't read thread, but I thought the Kelis references were pretty tastefully done, especially for a guy who's gone through as nasty(npi) of a divorce as Nas. He spoke on the situation from his perspective in a mature way. This ain't no Eminem "Kim" shyt.

this shyt is no where near the hof all time greatest fukk a bytch records,..kim is.

for how much nas is getting taken for,..this is one of the sorriest display of lame duck bullshyt simp-dom i still luh her records ever.

smh,..at the bullshyt this record and roses is.

especially incomparison to eminem's just the two of us and kim.

art barr

SO LONG,..bytch CHU DID ME SO WRONG!!

it ain't to many records that will ever be made to fukk with that shyt.

which is the culmination of eminem being with kim and getting played since he was a freshie in hs.

nas, was a grown ass man caught up simp'n.

getting played by a known artistically talentless expert role playing distastefully pr'd golddigger.

there is no comparison or ability for nas to save face making this record.

shyt should have been left on the cutting room editting floor.

this and roses should not even be on a mixtape.

they portray nas in a horrific awfully soft wack emo light.

nas is to cool to be sweating under.

shyt is a disgrace!!


art barr