Yo. You talkin bout grimy music at its finest. If these dudes would’ve popped before Griseld they would be those dudes now. They real old school and basic. But so fukkin raw….they are so interchangeable. Like the contrast of Rigz and Gates on a track is nuts. Yeah Mooch voice sounds like WSG, but he is much more raw and ill lyrically. MAV is so laid back but aggressive. Symph and Illinoise sound like poor man 38 Spesh so they don’t stand out as much, check out High Demand featuring Spesh. Times Change is nice.