Da Art of Longterm Storytellin' Part 1: The sonnin' of Paul HHH Laveck

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TTYL; Please, enjoy the show, but, I'm not watch RAW on USA anymore.

I know some of ya'll are mad at me, but, I mean no harm to you

They are obviously running in place til they can bring The Rock back and nothing interesting is happening.

I'm just gonna vent my frustration with HHH's booking over a couple more threads.

Writing as been my passion since I was a kid and this show has got piss poor over the last few months--I tried "letting it all play out


Now...

HHH era started April 6, 2024, Wrestlemania 41

I will not be blaming him for anything that happened before then.

…but, that’s funny, he gets to use stars from the Vince era, but, doesn’t get any of the blame…

Aight, that’s cool.

So, let's talk about his proudest achievement: Rhea Ripley
  • April 6, 2024, Rhea Ripley beats Becky Lynch for defense of her World title.
  • April 1, 2023, Rhea Ripley beats Charlotte for the World title.
Rhea Ripley is one of the best talents in the WWE, especially over the last two years.

Hell, just seeing her and Bianca in the 2022 Royal Rumble is the reason I started watching again, regularly for the first time in 20 years.

She deserved to win the Royal Rumble, be put over at Wrestlemania, be a dominant champion, headline a PLE in her home country, etc.

She is the shyt!

But, HHH books her like shyt!

The point of having a dominant figure in wrestling is to elevate others.

Dominant heels put over babyfaces and vise versa.


Rhea Ripley won the Women’s title April 1, 2023 and until April 8, 2024 and defended the title 11 times. Zelina, Raquel (three times), Natalya (twice), Zoey (twice), Nia Jax (twice), Ivy Nile, Nia Jax & Becky.

Only one of these women were elevated (aka in a better position afterwards) after feuding with Rhea--Nia Jax. And she had to go to another show to be a winnner.

Rhea is either squashing her opponents or she’s been in storylines with the Judgement Day completely ignoring all the women on the RAW Roster.

Then she gets hurt--IMO, HHH would still have her as champ til this day if she hadn’t--and there is a great story to tell with Liv and Rhea’s long-term rivlarly.

What does he do? Put the damn belt on Becky when they probably already knew she was leaving!

And let’s get to the Dominik, Liv love triangle;

The shyt doesn’t make any sense;

Rhea is the babyface?

HHH is telling us,
  • Dominik was lonley when Rhea was out
  • Liv started a plan to not only get into Dom's pants, but, to win the World title
  • Dominik cheated on Rhea with Liv
  • She didn’t treat him right when their entire relationship was some psuedo-PG-Dominitrix-type relationship
  • They both have been major heels down to shytting on his parents multiple times. Even down to the classic "Home invasion"...but only Dom is the bad guy
  • Liv has Rhea whole entire old crew except Dame...brought in Raquel as muscle
  • Rhea still fukks 'em up all the time and...
Rhea Ripley is the babyface because…

...she’s very sorry for all the bad stuff she’s done. :dahell:

Not because she cared so much about Dom.

Not because Liv deserved to have her shoulder fukked up.

Not because Raquel deserved to be bullied by Rhea.

LONG TERM STORYTELLING;

Rhea fukked Liv up TWO YEARS AGO.

Rhea’s been bullying her since 2022!

Instead of actually showing the Rhea really cared about Dom, she’s gotta be a badass.

“Dom’s got a little dikk.”…that’s it.

Oh, “I’m gonna get my title back that I never loss.” No story is going on, here’s what happened;
  • 4/8/24 - Rhea gets hurt
  • 4/22/24 - Becky beats Liv
  • 5/25/24 - Liv beats Becky while they tease Liv and Dom being a thing for a month.
  • 8/3/24 - Liv beats Rhea Ripley; Dom finally turns on Rhea (Cheating)
  • 10/5/24 - Liv recruits Raquel to jump Rhea to retain her title (DQ)
  • 10/21/24 - Not even a two weeks after Raquel’s return; Rhea 1 v 3’z Dom, Raquel and Liv
  • 10/29/24 - They crack Rhea’s head open in NXT
  • 11/2/24 - Liv gets a Crown Jewel win and finally looks to have the upper hand
  • 11/13/24 - Rhea comes back with a mask and fukks them up, again
This story is going nowhere and it’s cloggin up the women’s division because HHH has to rush Rhea back from injury...and this is gonna happen for the next 4-5 months

He even had to bring in Bianca to have one on ones and tag matches because he has yet to build up any other woman on RAW

Part 2 Coming Soon; HHH hates the midcard, now, just as much as he did when he was a talent
 

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I will say that HHH is usually pretty good with following up on heels (the major ones at least) having to suffer some of the consequences of their actions, even if they are "good guys" now, so it does surprise me that hasn't happened at all with Rhea Ripley. I suppose they feel like they can transfer all of her misdeeds onto the slimy and sleazy Dominik Mysterio but she's the one who turned him out in the first place. Of course, the Judgment Day has spent most of their run feuding with each other or being instigators in other people's stories so while Mysterio is absolutely hated by the fans he hasn't done much damage to the roster as a whole, so Rhea is excused from creating this despicable little shyt-heel. At least that's what HHH thinks but Rhea was all good with the fukkery until Liv Morgan wanted in. She never had any moment of hesitation about doing the wrong thing like Priest would have. She does need a bit of humbling and comeuppance.
 

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She never had any moment of hesitation about doing the wrong thing like Priest would have. She does need a bit of humbling and comeuppance.

HHH can't even write her talking about how much she "really cared for Dominik" blah, blah, blah

The RAW after Summerslam, she just shyt on him :mjlol:

And again, I'm not taking it more seriously than it should, but, ppl scream "cinema" when he doing shyt like;
  • Jey - "Roman, I'm not ya lacky...you got one time Uso...we equal"
  • Roman told Sami GTFOH ... Jey forgive him
  • Now, The Usos and Sami running around RAW and Smackdown...like lackeys, begging LA Knight and Seth to join War Games :mjlol:
  • Roman sitting at the Island of Relevancy and sitting in the middle of the room...at the Head of the Table when they come together
I was told that Vince was the one who books like the last few months don't matter
 

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Papa H has his shyt with him but I'll take this over that pile of shyt Cokeboy was cooking from 2018-2020

If I'm not mistaken OP said he wasn't watching around that time. Reason why I take this crashing out with a grain of salt.

This shyt with Liv and Rhea has ran its course but shyt looks like Shakespeare compare to Vince's hemorrhoid stories in his later years.
 

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the thing is... objectively-speaking, this Liv/Rhea thing been running for 2 years at this point.

Their weird tag team run was always random as fukk, but to have done it just to spend 10x the amount of time having them hate each other as they ever spent as on-screen friends just seems like trying to rush the result without doing the work.

Sami and Owens aren't even this on-sight after literal decades of hostility. Sami been on Smackdown constantly lately, Owens over there wildin out, and both of them still get to be independent entities from each other.

Even Gargano had rivalries with people other than Ciampa, you know what I mean? They're overplaying this Liv/Rhea card because they have overbalanced Rhea so much they figure they can use a bunch of other people in her orbit to get them over in opposition to her.
Completely forgetting... that this is literally what got Cena booed.

They are following the exact same path. John was the cool heel that people liked his schtick too much to boo. But then Vince ODed on never letting him get his comeuppance, always having him come out standing on top, and constantly at the top of the card looking down on everyone, even the ones aiming to threaten him. And with the way the women's division on RAW has been, it makes it look even worse because in order to keep Liv strong, they basically gutted any potential challengers for her.

It's counterproductive on both ends.

She's 100% the protagonist of Monday Night Raw. Which... I guess would be fine if it didn't immediately reak of the exact type of booking the last female Main Character of WWE got.

Rhea has basically been post-Nia-botch Bloody-Faced-Becky for over a year now. Just running roughshod, only overcome when its literal men also helping to distract things, and getting to look good against men and women alike and only taking Ls when she's outnumbered despite multiple women in this company now being notably taller and more muscular than she is right now.

Pre-Injury Rhea... it kinda made sense. But since she's been back, dropped the lifts, stopped doing shoulder workouts and settled into the tried-and-true Top WWE Babyface trajectory... nah.

Priest is literally coming into his own as a character the more they keep him away from her, though. And that's an indisputable positive. :yeshrug:
But she's basically Goth Charlotte at this point. Straight up LOLRheaWins status. I'm waiting for her to get dropped on her head on the concrete, just to beat the 10 count and win the match while outnumbered :francis:

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Triple H finally gets to book Chyna without needing to deal with Steph looking at him crazy at home. Hell, he even gets to treat it like a positive because he's 'making female heroes for his daughters to look up to', I guess?

I love Black&Gold NXT like I love cooked food.
But at some point the loyalty gotta be pushed back on.

it's fine though. Rhea seems to be injury-prone with how much they got her all in the videos. Eventually she's gonna need to take time off again - we just gotta hope it isn't more Rhea, or Charlotte or SkinnyBex who fill in the stationary godqueen of the division role.

And... in 2-3 years... whole women's card gon be full of biracials. He has no choice. It's all Shawn is making down in Florida. A bunch of spiral-haired, beige ringmonsters. Kelani and Sol both gonna be undeniable. And even if he tries to put a ceiling over Kelani and keep her in the midcard...

if ol girl on the same show as Bianca, it's only gonna be a matter of time before the talent wins out. And the next time the trending topic becomes about black people needing pushing, once all them women from NXT get called up, there's gonna be no choice. They will be pushed. Because we have proof that coming after his head about these things causes change, even if it's just reactionary.

tl;dr: I need that Kelani-Jade-Bianca matching gear teamup at least one more time or I'm filing a grievance with the NAACP.
 
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Imo...

It is a complete conflict of interest for cripple ache to even be running wwe.

Like how.

It makes no sense and vince still booking this shyt covertly. Like how is vince not.


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the thing is... objectively-speaking, this Liv/Rhea thing been running for 2 years at this point.

Their weird tag team run was always random as fukk, but to have done it just to spend 10x the amount of time having them hate each other as they ever spent as on-screen friends just seems like trying to rush the result without doing the work.

Sami and Owens aren't even this on-site after literal decades of hostility. Sami been on Smackdown constantly lately, Owens over there wildin out, and both of them still get to be independent entities from each other.

Even Gargano had rivalries with people other than Ciampa, you know what I mean? They're overplaying this Liv/Rhea card because they have overbalanced Rhea so much they figure they can use a bunch of other people in her orbit to get them over in opposition to her.
Completely forgetting... that this is literally what got Cena booed.

They are following the exact same path. John was the cool heel that people liked his schtick too much to boo. But then Vince ODed on never letting him get his comeuppance, always having him come out standing on top, and constantly at the top of the card looking down on everyone, even the ones aiming to threaten him. And with the way the women's division on RAW has been, it makes it look even worse because in order to keep Liv strong, they basically gutted any potential challengers for her.

It's counterproductive on both ends.

She's 100% the protagonist of Monday Night Raw. Which... I guess would be fine if it didn't immediately reak of the exact type of booking the last female Main Character of WWE got.

Rhea has basically been post-Nia-botch Bloody-Faced-Becky for over a year now. Just running roughshod, only overcome when its literal men also helping to distract things, and getting to look good against men and women alike and only taking Ls when she's outnumbered despite multiple women in this company now being notably taller and more muscular than she is right now.

Pre-Injury Rhea... it kinda made sense. But since she's been back, dropped the lifts, stopped doing shoulder workouts and settled into the tried-and-true Top WWE Babyface trajectory... nah.

Priest is literally coming into his own as a character the more they keep him away from her, though. And that's an indisputable positive. :yeshrug:
But she's basically Goth Charlotte at this point. Straight up LOLRheaWins status. I'm waiting for her to get dropped on her head on the concrete, just to beat the 10 count and win the match while outnumbered :francis:

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Triple H finally gets to book Chyna without needing to deal with Steph looking at him crazy at home. Hell, he even gets to treat it like a positive because he's 'making female heroes for his daughters to look up to', I guess?

I love Black&Gold NXT like I love cooked food.
But at some point the loyalty gotta be pushed back on.

it's fine though. Rhea seems to be injury-prone with how much they got her all in the videos. Eventually she's gonna need to take time off again - we just gotta hope it isn't more Rhea, or Charlotte or SkinnyBex who fill in the stationary godqueen of the division role.

And... in 2-3 years... whole women's card gon be full of biracials. He has no choice. It's all Shawn is making down in Florida. A bunch of spiral-haired, beige ringmonsters. Kelani and Sol both gonna be undeniable. And even if he tries to put a ceiling over Kelani and keep her in the midcard...

if ol girl on the same show as Bianca, it's only gonna be a matter of time before the talent wins out. And the next time the trending topic becomes about black people needing pushing, once all them women from NXT get called up, there's gonna be no choice. They will be pushed. Because we have proof that coming after his head about these things causes change, even if it's just reactionary.

tl;dr: I need that Kelani-Jade-Bianca matching gear teamup at least one more time or I'm filing a grievance with the NAACP.



It is wannabe Eric Draven.
Meets some weird cap shot at sting with a boob job bad.

If not for the women's rumble carried by Bayley.
This wwe shyt would not be worth a damn. Plus as long as cripple ache is there. It will be to protect his profitability as a performer via the gate or buys profitability. Which came because they were made via nepotism and stone cold was out with injury.
Sohh you are never going to get a high quality wwe product. As long as cripple ache is there.
Nor will wwe ever be vulnerable to create a draw. A cripple ache needs those gates and buy reciepts. To keep fake power. As on paper via spreadsheet it fske validates him being in the know and in charge. When the shyt cap. Plus the exact reason wrasslin will never have a boom again. To the point the rock v roman main event was sabotaged.
Then this fske as pr of cody being rhe better choice continued.
When the story is you missed out on the biggest main event build between the two largest drawing in house wwe created characters.
Yet since it is some melanin there. We get cap ass excuses.
Plus the inferior cac heavy alternative.


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Didn't realize so many posters were nostalgic for Vinces booking :ehh:

That isn't close to the reason for this thread.

I really give HHH credit/blame for booking over the last three years. But, ppl get pissy if Vince was anywhere near the WWE and you mention HHH.

HHH was a better booker before Vince was 100% gone.

He deserved praise for 2023 to Wrestlemania 41.

Vince was the reason I stopped watching from like 2003 to 2022.
 
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If I'm not mistaken OP said he wasn't watching around that time. Reason why I take this crashing out with a grain of salt.

This shyt with Liv and Rhea has ran its course but shyt looks like Shakespeare compare to Vince's hemorrhoid stories in his later years.

This isn't about comparing HHH to Vince. You're right.

But, I know what a damn good story and entertaining television.

I don't have a problem with "This is better than Vince takes"

omg :snoop: The only reason I brought up Vince was to establish that I'm not talking about the times Vince may have had input or meddled :snoop:
 

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Wrestling fans are never happy for the most part. There’s valid criticisms but 90% of the time it boils down to “this isn’t the outcome I wanted” :manny:

Not even that.

I want Bianca Belair to be a heel Undisputed Women's Champ (hold both World Titles) and Tez to be the US Champ.

:manny: It's cool if that doesn't happen.

I didn't put any fantasy booking in this thread. I like wrestling. I'm only a kayfabe stan of Roman Reigns--he's my favorite.

But, I want to enjoy the show regardless of who is on.
 

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the thing is... objectively-speaking, this Liv/Rhea thing been running for 2 years at this point.

Their weird tag team run was always random as fukk, but to have done it just to spend 10x the amount of time having them hate each other as they ever spent as on-screen friends just seems like trying to rush the result without doing the work.

Sami and Owens aren't even this on-site after literal decades of hostility. Sami been on Smackdown constantly lately, Owens over there wildin out, and both of them still get to be independent entities from each other.

Even Gargano had rivalries with people other than Ciampa, you know what I mean? They're overplaying this Liv/Rhea card because they have overbalanced Rhea so much they figure they can use a bunch of other people in her orbit to get them over in opposition to her.

I'm being called a heel, crashout (@g-ice It's really all love breh..I'm not mad at anybody) for saying just this.

:dahell: She can't even miss a PLE with a broken face?

They are following the exact same path. John was the cool heel that people liked his schtick too much to boo. But then Vince ODed on never letting him get his comeuppance, always having him come out standing on top, and constantly at the top of the card looking down on everyone, even the ones aiming to threaten him. And with the way the women's division on RAW has been, it makes it look even worse because in order to keep Liv strong, they basically gutted any potential challengers for her.

Thank you, and people shyt on John to this day for that run #lolcenawins
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Triple H finally gets to book Chyna without needing to deal with Steph looking at him crazy at home. Hell, he even gets to treat it like a positive because he's 'making female heroes for his daughters to look up to', I guess?
:lupe: Chyna x HHH x Stephanie videos keep showing up in my YT recommedations....and I keep watching them.

Damn, this kinda make sense
it's fine though. Rhea seems to be injury-prone with how much they got her all in the videos. Eventually she's gonna need to take time off again - we just gotta hope it isn't more Rhea, or Charlotte or SkinnyBex who fill in the stationary godqueen of the division role.

I'm fine with the "main characters" dominating Wrestlemania season. That is 100% fine.

I think Cody should be the WWE Champion for the next 5 years, every year around this time.

But, having people holding positions of "over" all damn year while we legit forget other ppl even work there.

I was a huge fan of Zoey Starks in NXT. She got called up, jobbed out to Becky, now she's in a 3 woman heel stable that loses as much as they win just 3 months into their formation.

Cook with the mid-card a little more after Mania til the Royal Rumble.

:lupe: Does that count as fantasy booking?

+Rep btw
 
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