Cyprus Bank Deposits to Be Taxed in $13 Billion Bailout

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well hopefully their debtors lol

god damn the EU was a terrible idea

From what I've read they got 7 Billion knocked off the 17 billion+ they owed so it's sort of a good deal.

It seems they're getting a 20 Billion dollar bailout so maybe nix te above comment


A lot of the money floating around Cyprus is dirty also.


One of the speakers on BBC explained it as the EU not wanting to bailout Russian Gangsters hiding their money there.


The alternative was defaulting...


Monday is a holiday. ATM's are empty... Tuesday will be interesting.

UK Government will reimburse their military, diplomats, and government personel with accounts on the Island.


40% of deposits are foreign deposits

25 Billion of deposits in Cyprus are from Russians 3% of deposits on the Island


There's going to be a run on all of the banks in the EU especially the weaker economies.

Stock Market is going to dip as well.
 

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:heh: at Germany man, theyve been eating so good off all these exports and shyt, being the big dog, owning tons of assets. building infrastructure all around the EU... and dont recognize how any of it might have hurt the smaller guys in this whole scheme

my heart goes out to the cypriots. you can bet that the germans wont hesitate to provide similar 'solutions' to other toxic EU states:wow:
 

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:heh: at Germany man, theyve been eating so good off all these exports and shyt, being the big dog, owning tons of assets. building infrastructure all around the EU... and dont recognize how any of it might have hurt the smaller guys in this whole scheme

my heart goes out to the cypriots. you can bet that the germans wont hesitate to provide similar 'solutions' to other toxic EU states:wow:

EU is in feast mode right now. Rewriting the fundamental laws of property and shyt :snoop:
 

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well hopefully their debtors lol

god damn the EU was a terrible idea

Nah, moreso letting in countries with weaker economies in was a terrible idea. I personnaly think the 2004 enlargment was a HUGE mistake, way too early and way too big, and having a single currency without an economic "government" never made sense.
 

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Europe is risking a bank run - FT.com

March 17, 2013 8:25 pm

Europe is risking a bank run

By Wolfgang Münchau

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Sir Mervyn King once said it was not rational to start a bank run but rational to participate in one once it has started. The governor of the Bank of England was right, of course. On Saturday morning, the finance ministers of the eurozone may well have started a bank run.

With the agreement on a depositor haircut for Cyprus– in all but name – the eurozone has effectively defaulted on a deposit insurance guarantee for bank deposits. That guarantee was given in 2008 after the collapse of Lehman Brothers. It consisted of a series of nationally co-ordinated guarantees. They wanted to make the political point that all savings are safe.


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I am using the expressions “in all but name” and “effectively” because legally, Cyprus is not defaulting or imposing losses on depositors. The country is levying a tax of 6.75 per cent on deposits of up to €100,000, and a tax of 9.9 per cent above that threshold. Legally, this is a wealth tax. Economically, it is a haircut.

I myself had favoured a haircut, or tax, on deposits of more than €100,000 – the portion not covered by the deposit insurance guarantee. There is no moral or economic reason to protect foreigners who have decided to park large sums in a Cypriot bank account for whatever reason. Such a haircut would also have been in line with the philosophy of deposit insurance. Its purpose is not to provide absolute certainty, but to prevent bank runs, which is what happens when you go after small depositors. Well-designed deposit insurance schemes thus impose ceilings.

I just could not believe it when I heard that eurozone finance ministers went after the small depositors in Cyprus. I understand the purely technical reason why they did it. The eurozone could not agree a full bailout, which would have cost €17bn.

The Germans rejected a loan which they were certain Cyprus would invariably default on. So the sum was cut to €10bn. A depositor haircut was the only way to co-finance this. When they did the maths, they found the big deposits would not have sufficed.

So they opted for a wealth tax with hardly any progression. There is not even an exemption for people with only very small savings.

If one wanted to feed the political mood of insurrection in southern Europe, this was the way to do it. The long-term political damage of this agreement is going to be huge. In the short term, the danger consists of a generalised bank run, not just in Cyprus.

As in the case of Greece, the finance ministers said: “Don’t worry, this is a unique situation”. This is true only in a very narrow legal sense. The bond haircut in Greece is indeed different to the depositor haircut in Cyprus. And when they repeat this elsewhere, it will be unique once more.

Unless there is a last-minute reprieve for small savers, most Cypriot savers would act rationally if they withdrew the rest of their money simply to protect them from further haircuts or taxes. It would be equally rational for savers elsewhere in southern Europe to join them. The experience of Cyprus tells them that the solvency of a deposit insurance scheme is only as good as that of the state. In view of Italy’s public sector debt ratio, or the combined public and private sector indebtedness of Spain and Portugal, there is no way that these governments can insure all banks’ deposits on their own.

The Cyprus rescue has shown that the creditor nations will insist from now that any bank rescue must be co-funded by depositors.

The really puzzling thing is why did people not withdraw their money before? Did they not read the newspapers? Maybe they trusted the new president of Cyprus, who had promised them that he would never accept this? And why has there been so little deposit flight elsewhere in southern Europe? Did they, too, trust their governments? More importantly, will they continue to do so now?


There are some institutional impediments against bank runs within the eurozone. Some countries impose daily withdrawal limits, ostensibly as a measure against money laundering. Nor is it easy to open a bank account in a foreign country. In many cases, you need to have residency. You may need to travel there in person, and you need to speak the local language – or at least English.

But I would not take too much comfort from those impediments. Once fear reaches a critical mass, people will act, and then a bank run becomes a self-perpetuating process. There has been a lot of complacency about the eurozone crisis in the past eight months.

Many people even thought the crisis was over because Mario Draghi, president of the European Central Bank, gave a lender-of-last-resort guarantee. Bank depositors now understand that if the crisis was over, then that was only because the eurozone had found a new source of funding: their savings.

I have no idea whether or not there will be a bank run in the next few weeks. But surely it would be rational.
 

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Euro sinks as Cyprus rejects bank deposit tax

A sculpture displaying a giant Euro sign is seen in front of the European Central Bank headquarters on March 7, 2013, in Frankfurt , Germany. The euro sank 0.5 percent Tuesday as Cyprus threw its EU-IMF bailout in question when legislators rejected a controversial bank deposit tax meant to raise funds for the government.
AFP - The euro sank 0.5 percent Tuesday as Cyprus threw its EU-IMF bailout in question when legislators rejected a controversial bank deposit tax meant to raise funds for the government.

The euro began to drop in US late-morning trade as it became evident that Cypriot lawmakers would turn back the tax, a linchpin of the 10 billion euro European Union-International Monetary Fund rescue plan for the island nation.

At 2100 GMT the euro was at $1.2881, compared with $1.2957 late Monday.

The safe-harbor Japanese currency also gained, with the dollar dropping to 95.16 yen from 95.23 yen, and the euro moving to 122.59 yen from 123.41.

The dollar's gain was also underpinned by some expectations that the Federal Reserve on Wednesday could deliver a slightly improved view of the US economy, which would be more bullish for the greenback.

Data released Tuesday on new housing starts in February was encouraging, with the pace up 28 percent from a year earlier, underscoring strength in the US real estate sector.

The Federal Open Market Committee, the Fed's policy board, "may sound more upbeat this time around amid the more broad-based recovery" in the US, said David Song of DailyFX.

"We may see a growing number of Fed officials scale back their willingness to expand the balance sheet further as growth and inflation picks up," he said, referring to the Fed's quantitative easing (QE) program of bond-buying.

But not all analysts were confident in that picture. Neal Gilbert of GFT said that Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke had shown no sign yet of seeing growth strong enough to reel in QE, which would tighten interest rates.

"In the previous two FOMC decisions, the US dollar has been hammered on the back of Bernanke outright dismissing the idea that QE could be lessened any time soon, Gilbert said. "And the same thing could happen tomorrow."

The pound was lower against the dollar, trading at $1.5095 compared with $1.5107 late Monday.

The dollar edged higher against the Swiss franc, to 0.9467 franc from 0.9462 franc.
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If they steal their money straight out their banks accounts, I hope the people burn down the whole island.
 
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