Cut It Out

[Dirty_Jerz]

also @HollowPoints2 it would be nice if instead of holding the black men and women who are in the worst position of it all(poverty) in contempt when its not like there arent plenty of black men and women who are very wealthy and could be helping educate the ignorant attitudes out of those who stray....sometimes it seems as though they have the most destructive behaviors out of us all

 

[Blackking]

Certain things we have control over like making our community safe so are women and children can go to school work and enjoy themselves each day.

You can't fight white supremacy when your own house is not in order because your enemy will always point out your weaknesses and exploit them.that's what they did with the Trayvon Martin case. They said black people kill each other everyday what's the difference in this case?oh,b/c a non blk person did it this time huh!

If you want to put fear in the hearts of white supremacist then show them that you can maintain some type of structure but not killing one another and putting family values first. Once that's in place and all black people are on the same page then there will be no way for your enemy to point out your weakness.

It would take me too long to explain to you what happens to a people when you oppress them for hundreds of years, ban them from education, burn and rape them and deny them justice.. pretend to include them and give them rights - but then turn around and create situations that force them into the most economically depressed areas, with limited resources.. then benefit from that through a criminal prison industrial complex. And all that is not even the tip of that ice burg. killing leaders, killing movements, brainwashing intentially still wouldn't even touch all all the shyt. Just to give you some insight - its simply foolish to expect even those basic things to be turned around within 40 years - especially when there are more modern forms of fukkery going on.

We are making progress.... Obviously we have been making progress since the 30's ... went from an illiterate population to millions struggle to gain higher education and tech skills increasing every year. You people who only speak on the negatives of our culture and only speak on other shyt you seem to not understand - are really lost.

There are things that we only recently have control over - even those things have outside forces promoting them.... but whatever cuz CAC motivations aren't going anywhere..... but let's not pretend that the black community aren't the only and haven't been the only ones that care about black on black crime and other issues... The masses haven't always been motivated to work towards solutions... but lets not call hypocrite EVERY time blacks want to speak on some fukkery towards blacks in the Justice system. Lets get real.

 

[HollowPoints2]

IMO we dont hold ourselves accountable for self reliance since we dont hold ourselves accountable for other things like abusing alcohol, drugs and violence, so while i agree that some of us have destructive behavior patterns and it really isnt something to link up with we cannot simply say "well stop blaming white man" when it is literally their doings that set us up in this manner of living.

we cannot lift up anybody in the nation when we cant first address morality, thats where i, also IMO think the division begins in the "clean house" holds where some persons seems irresponsible among the others because of conflict regarding young against old as well as genders/gender roles, which all play a big part since they are also directly influenced by white man slavery culture.

Believe it or not there are black people who blame the white man for the reason why we commit black on black murders everyday. There are even some small minded black people who blame racism for the reason why Ray Ray walked out on his kids. Some of us just go overboard and put the blame all on white people giving them too much power for shyt that we control. it becomes pathetic at some point.

We need to address the reason why black people kill each other we also need to address why Ray Ray feels the need to walk out on his kids.

Once we figure out why then we come up with SOLUTIONS.

 

[theworldismine13]

IMO we dont hold ourselves accountable for self reliance since we dont hold ourselves accountable for other things like abusing alcohol, drugs and violence, so while i agree that some of us have destructive behavior patterns and it really isnt something to link up with we cannot simply say "well stop blaming white man" when it is literally their doings that set us up in this manner of living.

we cannot lift up anybody in the nation when we cant first address morality, thats where i, also IMO think the division begins in the "clean house" holds where some persons seems irresponsible among the others because of conflict regarding young against old as well as genders/gender roles, which all play a big part since they are also directly influenced by white man slavery culture.

you can believe that as long as you realize that what you are really saying is that black people cannot do anything without the consent of white people

i would never agree with a philosophy that says the destiny of black people is dependent on white people

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Believe it or not there are black people who blame the white man for the reason why we commit black on black murders everyday. There are even some small minded black people who blame racism for the reason why Ray Ray walked out on his kids. Some of us just go overboard and put the blame all on white people giving them too much power for shyt that we control. it becomes pathetic at some point.

We need to address the reason why black people kill each other we also need to address why Ray Ray feels the need to walk out on his kids.

Once we figure out why then we come up with SOLUTIONS.

well what it comes down to is where those people who end up being murderers or bad parents were raised also who taught them and what was taught/how it was taught. i wouldnt put it past saying they learned from white america large scale and small scale in their household from the parents.

if you say black people in america murder eachother out because of learning violent behavior from other black people well where did they learn it from? you cant say some deadbeat dad left his kids because some white man said so but you could say he did it because he grew up ignorant all his life and never learned any better since his father was the same way and his fathers father the same but when you hit the root it comes down to black people being slaves then being divided then intergrated also not by accident. it sounds pathetic because you would like to think stuff like that shouldnt have an effect on us anymore but it does evidently when the wealthy and poor can equally be willfully and unwillfully ignorant

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

you can believe that as long as you realize that what you are really saying is that black people cannot do anything without the consent of white people

i would never agree with a philosophy that says the destiny of black people is dependent on white people

thats not what im saying at all

 

[emoney]

how can you counter white supremacy when most black people are low key white supremacists?

 

[HollowPoints2]

well what it comes down to is where those people who end up being murderers or bad parents were raised also who taught them and what was taught/how it was taught. i wouldnt put it past saying they learned from white america large scale and small scale in their household from the parents.

if you say black people in america murder eachother out because of learning violent behavior from other black people well where did they learn it from? you cant say some deadbeat dad left his kids because some white man said so but you could say he did it because he grew up ignorant all his life and never learned any better since his father was the same way and his fathers father the same but when you hit the root it comes down to black people being slaves then being divided then intergrated also not by accident. it sounds pathetic because you would like to think stuff like that shouldnt have an effect on us anymore but it does evidently when the wealthy and poor can equally be willfully and unwillfully ignorant

All you want to do is put the blame somewhere else. It is 2013 we are all not mentally defeated and can understand the concept of not walking out on our kids regardless of the situation. Instead of holding people who murder accountable you want to give excuses for why. You can't build a safe nation for your women and children when you have murderers and killers running around.

What's so hard about condemning self destructive behavior patterns.

Are you a chick?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

All you want to do is put the blame somewhere else. It is 2013 we are all not mentally defeated and can understand the concept of not walking out on our kids regardless of the situation. Instead of holding people who murder accountable you want to give excuses for why. You can't build a safe nation for your women and children when you have murderers and killers running around.

What's so hard about condemning self destructive behavior patterns.

Are you a chick?

thats not what im doing either im actually placing the blame on every guilty hand down to the origin or root cause since slave trading was in north america. black people arent the only people who murder black people so its not all our fault, it really is wack when we only like to check eachother but not the instigator.
you cant build securely on half truths, tell the whole story for a full perspective; meaning past present and what the future could be, in order to do that we cant ignore regardless how far back it is because like it has and always did history will only repeat itself. if you want black on black murderers held accountable thats fine just dont leave out the white counterparts who planted those destructive seeds

condemning the destructive patterns without concern of who put this situation on your head isnt helping imo

no

 

[theworldismine13]

thats not what im saying at all

yeah i know that isnt what you are saying, but that is the logical conclusion of what you are saying

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

yeah i know that isnt what you are saying, but that is the logical conclusion of what you are saying

how so? i dont see it concluding to "depend on white people" or "needing white consent" at all maybe you can explain more

 

[HollowPoints2]

thats not what im doing either im actually placing the blame on every guilty hand down to the origin or root cause since slave trading was in north america. black people arent the only people who murder black people so its not all our fault, it really is wack when we only like to check eachother but not the instigator.
you cant build securely on half truths, tell the whole story for a full perspective; meaning past present and what the future could be, in order to do that we cant ignore regardless how far back it is because like it has and always did history will only repeat itself. if you want black on black murderers held accountable thats fine just dont leave out the white counterparts who planted those destructive seeds

condemning the destructive patterns without concern of who put this situation on your head isnt helping imo

no

Who's forcing us to kill one another in Chicago or Detroit right now?I'm not talking about slavery. Why hasn't my brain or the millions of other blk ppls been planted with a destructive seed to kill or want to kill.

We're all not affected by that shyt mentally.

Until you look within and clean house first you cannot attack your enemy because he will exploit your weaknesses.