Cuba Banned Reggaeton and People Are Surprisingly OK with That

[Mowgli]

Cuba isnt free.

 

[zerozero]

Crunk, Trap, and reggaetone are really the only genres in the mainstream that have true African rhythms.

explain? trap music is way too electronic and processed to have a "true african rhythm"

 

[Bud Bundy]

explain? trap music is way too electronic and processed to have a "true african rhythm"

he doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about.

to find African rhythm you have to go to africa.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

he doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about.

to find African rhythm you have to go to africa.

The Rock Beat rhythm (1 and 2) that funk, Hip-hop, and R & B are based on have european folk music origins. 12 bar blues has a West African song structure traditional West African call and response song melodies etc. if you listen old Western european folk music you can hear the basis of the Rock beat, which is really old country music.

The only music forms that retain African Polyrhythmic forms are Jazz (not Fusion jazz or contemporary jazz), Reggae, Reggaetone, and trap and crunk.

There is definitely a fundamental similarity to all these genres. It's in the "bouncy" and loose rhythm, and I'd argue that it comes from Africa. Notice how Dub, Trap and Jazz songs usually start with a fast drum roll.

Listen to this a 2:55, and you can hear where it comes from. When I listen to this I feel exactly them same as when I hear crunk, trap, or dub. The rhythm is EXACTLY the same. Jazz feels like this too it's just way faster.

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These are all just and evolution of those traditional rhythms

trap


Crunk


Dub



Jazz has the same bouncy feel. It's just faster.
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Roy Ayers during his african phase.




Crunk is a shinny example of West African influence. Very Complex poly rhythm, Call and Response, Chanting, and... the 808


Skipped to 3:16 in this Video.

Bolon - West African Instrument - YouTube!

The 808 Drum kick sounds strangely similar to those old Griot Guitar/drum instruments. There's one in a studio that I play around with a lot, and you can really get those deep decayed hits out of that instrument. You just have to hit it right.

 

[Bud Bundy]

you can type all that shyt and i listened to it. Your reaching the styles of music like crunk dub and jazz all originated in the America's without African influence. The one thing they may share in common are drums but that is it. Considering That american (including islands and south america) music is the most influential around the world I don't understand how you can say something like that.

And R & B is purely American along with Jazz. You don't to give blacks credit for anything huh?

 

[88m3]

he doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about.

to find African rhythm you have to go to africa.

You don't know what you're talking about

 

[Bud Bundy]

You don't know what you're talking about

how can has africa infulnced american styles except by those aristist who don't go looking for it?

 

[88m3]

how can has africa infulnced american styles expect by those aristist who don't go looking for it?

I didn't say American Styles.


You just admitted artists who want the sound "go looking for it" and I would imagine recreate it.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I didn't say American Styles.


You just admitted artists who want the sound "go looking for it" and I would imagine recreate it.

things like Jazz are american in origin. only a certain artist looks for african influences not the entire genera.

but Meh

 

[Resident Geordie]

"It is not only of reggaeton. Vulgar, banal and mediocre are recorded in other musical practices. So we should not particularize in a genus. But the fact remains that in the reggaeton that is much more noticeable."

"It will help the implementation of a rule of law, in which we are working, that should govern public use of music in a spectrum covering media, entertainment schedules, festivals, and setting sound public places.Obviously, everyone is free to listen to their music you want privacy, but that freedom does not include the right to reproduce and disseminate it in restaurants and cafes state or private, buses to transport passengers and public spaces general.

Ni la vulgaridad ni la mediocridad podrán mellar la riqueza de la música cubana

Its not actually banning Reggaeton but restricting the use of 'vulgar' music in public, not that I agree with it, but could you play 'fukk tha police' in an American restaurant? because you probably couldn't in the UK

 

[88m3]

things like Jazz are american in origin. only a certain artist looks for african influences not the entire genera.

but Meh

Do Caribbean and South American styles come from Africa?

 

[Bud Bundy]

Do Caribbean and South American styles come from Africa?

only so far as drums go

things like steal pan and calypso were made in the america's

 

[88m3]

only so far as drums go

things like steal pan and calypso were made in the america's

Yeah ok

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

you can type all that shyt and i listened to it. Your reaching the styles of music like crunk dub and jazz all originated in the America's without African influence. The one thing they may share in common are drums but that is it. Considering That american (including islands and south america) music is the most influential around the world I don't understand how you can say something like that.

And R & B is purely American along with Jazz. You don't to give blacks credit for anything huh?

there wouldnt be any american music if it wasn't for blacks.

However, the contribution ratio depends on the genre

something like Jazz is 70-80 % west african derived. African rhythm, african song cliches (free form , call and response 12 bar form, etc). European instruments.

blues is like 60-70% west african.

rock and its derivatives (hip hop, funk, disco) have more Country rhythms and marching band cues, there are simply more european influence in rock. Rock was a blending of white country and the more
African blues. Funk is the most african-influenced Rock sub-genre.

fusion jazz was a total abandonment of the african based rhythm of Jazz

trap and crunk came from hip hop, but they got rid of the white rhythm( although it was heavily changed by african influence). Its more african in its feel than Boom Bap or other forms or hip-hop.

 

[Bud Bundy]

there wouldnt be any american music if it wasn't for blacks.

However, the contribution ratio depends on the genre

something like Jazz is 70-80 % west african derived. African rhythm, african song cliches (free form , call and response 12 bar form, etc). European instruments.

blues is like 60-70% west african.

rock and its derivatives (hip hop, funk, disco) have more Country rhythms and marching band cues, there are simply more european influence in rock. Rock was a blending of white country and the more
African blues. Funk is the most african-influenced Rock sub-genre.

fusion jazz was a total abandonment of the african based rhythm of Jazz

trap and crunk came from hip hop, but they got rid of the white rhythm( although it was heavily changed by african influence). Its more african in its feel than Boom Bap or other forms or hip-hop.

i don't see it

where is the african infulance in this?

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or this
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or this

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or this

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