Crypto CEO Accidentally Describes Ponzi Scheme--UPDATE--Bankman-Fried arrested in the Bahamas on money laundering and fraud charges.

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Yeah sam himself said he was playing both sides :mjpls: he put just as much money in the rep as he did the dem he just use dark money when he was giving it to the rep:mjpls:
Dark money, or anonymous political donations funneled through corporations, nonprofit organizations and other groups, has become a dominant force in U.S. elections in the years since 2010, when the Supreme Court’s landmark Citizens United decision allowed the practice. But the ways that dark money operates is constantly in flux.

“It’s showing up in advocacy for particular pieces of legislation,” Marketplace’s Kimberly Adams said in an interview with Marketplace’s David Brancaccio. “But also, according to The Washington Post and others, dark money is being used to influence the courts — where groups with undisclosed donors may pay for ads or articles promoting, say, the confirmation of Supreme Court justices, or even against that confirmation.”

Adams spoke with Brancaccio about how dark money operates at the federal, state and local levels, and whether there are any signs the rules could change in the future. The following is an edited transcript of their conversation.

David Brancaccio: Now we both learned this in college — define your terms. The dark money here is what?

Kimberly Adams: It’s political spending where the source of money isn’t publicly disclosed. And it often has the veneer of disclosure — so maybe a political action committee tied to a particular candidate is spending money and disclosing its donors, but that list of donors includes nonprofits or nebulous LLCs or even shell companies that don’t have to disclose where they’re getting their money.
Brancaccio: Our documentary this month focused on how this dark money works at the state level, but how pervasive is this on the national level?

Adams: It’s really everywhere. The New York Times recently did an investigation into dark money spending in the 2020 election, and reported that groups aligned with Democrats spent more than $1.5 billion in dark money and groups aligned with Republicans spent more than $900 million. Open Secrets, a watchdog group that’s now partnered with the follow the money group we saw featured in the documentary, tracks this pretty closely — or at least as much as they can. And they say that some of the biggest races attracting dark money recently were, of course, the 2020 presidential race, but also the very contentious Georgia Senate races, as well as Senate races in North Carolina, and, right on track with the film, Montana.

Brancaccio: Alright, so influential money of uncertain origin — could be wealthy individuals, could be labor unions, all sorts of things — we know it’s playing a role at the state and federal election level. Where else is this kind of money showing up?

Adams: It’s showing up in advocacy for particular pieces of legislation. So, for example, the Build Back Better agenda: you might see ads for or against it, and you don’t really know where that money is coming from. But also, according to The Washington Post and others, dark money is being used to influence the courts — where groups with undisclosed donors may pay for ads or articles promoting, say, the confirmation of Supreme Court justices, or even against that confirmation. And at the local level, it can often show up around issues related to education. There are accusations dark money is at work in things like a school privatization initiative in Michigan, school board races in Colorado, and even some of the coordinated anti-critical race theory protests and book bans we’re seeing around the country.

Brancaccio: Any sense laws or regulations around this issue are changing?
Adams: I mean, it’s not looking likely anytime soon. There was an effort in the Democrats’ voting rights bill to include pretty significant changes to campaign finance laws. It would have made more of these dark money groups required to disclose their donors. But that bill failed, and it’s not clear if that particular part of it, the DISCLOSE Act, could make it through on its own. At the state level, there have been recent attempts for campaign finance reform in Oregon, Virginia, and, of course, Montana, but they’ve mostly not been successful. And several states have actually adopted laws preventing government agencies from requiring additional disclosures from some of these groups.


 

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They loan money legally, and do it in huge quantities if they have some massive investment project or scheme that they expect to outearn the loan.

you don't have to illustrate viability of the loan (beyond creditworthiness/trust) if you put up enough collateral.

But FTX was Wang and Singh's entire portfolio, and Alameda WAS their investment vehicle. That's what I mean by "anyone like them" - they aren't big-time investors with a track record, they're just engineers, and rather than investing the money in their own company they were taking money out of it. Why would they take nearly a billion dollars of their own customer's money, so that it CAN'T be used by their own investment house, when they knew that house was already struggling and in danger of insolvency, so instead invest it in.... what exactly?

as co-mingling was not public we have to assume loans were made with that assumption. as such creditors would not need to know the details.

Have you heard the slightest peep about where that money went or whether they've made the slightest move to give it back and pay back their clients?

that is what the collateral was supposed to be for.

SBF is supposedly financially ruined, his parents are giving back their property, FTX's Bahemian assets are being seized, but we're hearing nothing about the 700 million cash that Wang and Singh stole from FYX's customers?

have you seen a picture of wang yet? if he exists?

isn't wang the most common chinese name? :mjlol:

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Earlier this week, the Ministry of Public Security released a list of the most common Chinese surnames (in Chinese) of 2019. The top five remain unchanged from the previous year:

  1. 王 Wáng
  2. 李 Lǐ
  3. 张 Zhāng
  4. 刘 Liú
  5. 陈 Chén
"

 

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have you seen a picture of wang yet? if he exists?

isn't wang the most common chinese name? :mjlol:


I didn't know there was some "wang doesn't exist" conspiracy.

His real name is Zixiao Wang, graduated from MIT in 2015 and joined Google, then left from that to help found FTX. He definitely seems to keep a low profile, so maybe he was the one who knew it would all blow up?



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I didn't know there was some "wang doesn't exist" conspiracy.

His real name is Zixiao Wang, graduated from MIT in 2015 and joined Google, then left from that to help found FTX. He definitely seems to keep a low profile, so maybe he was the one who knew it would all blow up?



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ah ok. i heard that he was proving hard to identify but didn't really look into it.
 

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ah ok. i heard that he was proving hard to identify but didn't really look into it.


I mean, it's pretty fukking weird that he was worth $6 billion and yet only 4 pictures of him exist, with one of them from behind. But if he's fake then whoever made him up has done an incredible job of planting fake evidence. It appears he has put forth a remarkable effort to keep himself out of the spotlight.
 

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"On the morning of November 9 at approximately 10 AM ET, after the announcement of the then-contemplated Binance acquisition, Ellison held an “all-hands” meeting with Alameda staff. In that meeting, Ellison acknowledged that earlier that year, she, Bankman Fried and other individuals had decided to use FTX customer assets to pay Alameda’s debts, and that Wang and another FTX executive were aware of this.

Specifically, in that meeting, Ellison stated that, “starting last year” Alameda was “borrowing a bunch of money by open term loans” and used those assets to “make very illiquid investments.” Ellison further explained that following the widespread decline of digital asset prices most of Alameda’s loans had been recalled and, in order to meet those recalls, Alameda borrowed “a bunch of funds” from FTX, which in turn “led to FTX having a shortfall in user funds.”

Ellison informed Alameda staff that FTX had “always allowed” Alameda to borrow customer assets,
and did not require collateral for those loans. She also explained that Alameda could access user assets without requiring FTX’s approval as the “structure” allowed Alameda to “go negative in coins.”

In response to an employee question, Ellison also acknowledged that her November 6 tweet to the Binance CEO offering to buy his FTT holdings at $22 per token was “kind of a misleading thing to tweet” and expressed remorse. Shortly after this meeting, most of Alameda’s staff resigned."






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