Critical Race Theory

[Professor Emeritus]

Seems like par for the course

Theyre taking our jobs
We cant afford it
We need higher taxes to fund xyz
They want to put us under sharia law/socialism
They want abolish civil rights
Death panels
etc...

All bullshyt low information voters eat up, that gets people in office, how is this different is what i should have asked?

The bolded are the only ones that come from the left and they're both true.

Southern Whites opposed the Civil Rights Act when it happened, have members who continue to say it was a mistake today, completely gutted the Voting Rights Act and have passed dozens of voting restrictions in direct response to that lack of oversight, are doing everything they can to overturn Affirmative Action, are doing everything they can to block investigations of racism at every level from education to police to banking. Do you actually think they favor any regulation of civil rights at any level?

True or False - when Trump took office, did he spend four years closing Civil Rights investigations in every department he could or not? Is it true or not that all open police bias investigations and oversight rules were closed, that the Department of Education just wiped clean virtually all its civil rights investigations, HUD completely ignored civil rights, the SEC rolled back regulations to prevent racial distribution in banking, and that Trump ordered all civil rights trainings to cease across all government agencies?

 

[Piff Perkins]

It's not taught in schools, that's literally a fact. However it's become a catch-all term for any discussion of white supremacy or racism. Meaning that what's really being banned/restricted from schools right now is basic fukking American history. Before republicans had even heard of the term, Texas schools were purchasing textbooks that labeled African slaves as "workers" and other shyt. Now they're out here banning books, again. It's the same shyt they've been doing for decades, just amplified to speed up the pace.

From a political perspective, saying "it's not taught in schools" doesn't cut it because the auto response is going to be bububu my child was told that white supremacy is xyz. They don't want their children being taught anything that casts white people in a bad light, or as perpetrators of injustice against victims (Native Americans, black people, Japanese Americans etc).

I think a better approach would be to go on offense. Press them on the books they're banning, including books cacs have been trying to ban for decades like To Kill A Mockingbird and Huckleberry Finn. Ask them directly, what should American schools tell our children about the elimination of Native Americans, slavery, Jim Crow, Japanese internment, etc etc. Instead of allowing it to be a vague catch-all term, make them get specific.

 

[DEAD7]

The bolded are the only ones that come from the left and they're both true.

Like I said, the question I should have asked is how is this different.
Seems like par for the course to me and not a huge deal…
The term CRT has been b*stardized and you can’t get it back. Not sure if the left should spend time even addressing it.





…i subscribe to MMT and don’t believe tax revenue funds anything at the federal level such rhetoric is just used to for votes.


You are correct about Trump and southern whites… I just think we are past blacks not being able to vote or use the same restrooms, etc…
I oppose affirmative action

 

[Wargames]

It's not taught in schools, that's literally a fact. However it's become a catch-all term for any discussion of white supremacy or racism. Meaning that what's really being banned/restricted from schools right now is basic fukking American history. Before republicans had even heard of the term, Texas schools were purchasing textbooks that labeled African slaves as "workers" and other shyt. Now they're out here banning books, again. It's the same shyt they've been doing for decades, just amplified to speed up the pace.

From a political perspective, saying "it's not taught in schools" doesn't cut it because the auto response is going to be bububu my child was told that white supremacy is xyz. They don't want their children being taught anything that casts white people in a bad light, or as perpetrators of injustice against victims (Native Americans, black people, Japanese Americans etc).

I think a better approach would be to go on offense. Press them on the books they're banning, including books cacs have been trying to ban for decades like To Kill A Mockingbird and Huckleberry Finn. Ask them directly, what should American schools tell our children about the elimination of Native Americans, slavery, Jim Crow, Japanese internment, etc etc. Instead of allowing it to be a vague catch-all term, make them get specific.

I agree it’s to the point you got to start confronting them on these opinions and call a racist a racist. Its not about making them less racist, it’s making them respect your existence.

What’s the old legal saying “You don’t have to love your neighbor just respect his rights and property.” Our history is our respect and they more they can hide it the easier it is for them to then disrespect people.

 

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

While this isn't really taught in school, at least below the college level, outrage about this seems to be a huge motivating factor for Republicans this cycle. And I don't just mean at the polls. Lots of schools, teachers, and school board meetings are getting flooded with parents worrying about this, and the fact that it's not taught doesn't seem to matter. The strategy to create a bunch of hysteria about this seems to be paying off for the GOP in a big way.


So my question is, if you're a Democratic politician or strategist, what do you do to address the "issue"? Do you just ignore the topic, focus on other stuff, and hope it goes away (since any mention of it seems to help Republicans) or do you actually try to press the issue and educate people about it? I'm kind of curious as to what the strategy should be if Dems don't want to take a huge L next year due to riled-up white voters.

White people are FREAKING OUT about “critical race theory”

 

[darkmanp]

My question is where are the teachers who are supposedly teaching Critical Race Theory. Where were the teachers in Loudon County VA either denying teaching CRT or defending it? This whole debate is going to have the most impact on the teachers, but we don't hear anything out of them on the subject.

 

[Shogun]

My question is where are the teachers who are supposedly teaching Critical Race Theory. Where were the teachers in Loudon County VA either denying teaching CRT or defending it? This whole debate is going to have the most impact on the teachers, but we don't hear anything out of them on the subject.

Because none of this has to do with the actual classroom, or education. It's all a political pissing match...which is usually the case when Americans pretend to give a shyt about education.

 

[LurkMoar]

Why would a majority white country endorse anything that teaches their youth about their evils. This reaction was obvious to anyone who thought it thru

 

[Jalether]

A lot of white people are stupid but dems could easily quash this by making the conversion into a bad faith argument
Have republicans explain what critical race theory is and then ask why learning the history of the US is bad?

Its become a tentpole term for them to whine about every grievance that has nothing to do with education and more to do with social decorum regarding race

That would require dems to do what they have never done before (and frankly incapable of ) which is control the narrative and claw victory out of the jaws of defeat

This will be like asking Ben simmons to compete in and win a 3 point shooting contest

 

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[Mission249]

if you're a Democratic politician or strategist, what do you do to address the "issue"? Do you just ignore the topic, focus on other stuff, and hope it goes away (since any mention of it seems to help Republicans) or do you actually try to press the issue and educate people about it?

If you're explaining then you're losing. It happened with "defund the police" and now it's happening with "critical race theory".

Democrats should push some carefully worded legislation that makes it illegal to teach any race that they're inferior due to their race's history. Then when it's brought up simple say: "I hear where you're coming from. That's why we're passing legislation to ban (your interpretation of) Critical Race Theory from being taught in our classrooms". Then move on.

Fight bullshyt with bullshyt. People keep saying the Republicans are brilliant in their messaging. But the reality is that they're just willing to do some underhanded things that the Democrats aren't. The Republicans know the fight is an existential issue for them. The Democrats think they can lecture their way out of that.

 

[BaggerofTea]

I would compare it to Holocaust denialism and challenge anyone who says that it is different to explain why.


This is only grown because people thought it was a joke…. Like most of the Republicans rallying cries.

That's basically what is.

Perhaps even worse because crt covers a length of period since the 1600s up til today

 

[Althalucian]

If you're explaining then you're losing. It happened with "defund the police" and now it's happening with "critical race theory".

Democrats should push some carefully worded legislation that makes it illegal to teach any race that they're inferior due to their race's history. Then when it's brought up simple say: "I hear where you're coming from. That's why we're passing legislation to ban (your interpretation of) Critical Race Theory from being taught in our classrooms". Then move on.

Fight bullshyt with bullshyt. People keep saying the Republicans are brilliant in their messaging. But the reality is that they're just willing to do some underhanded things that the Democrats aren't. The Republicans know the fight is an existential issue for them. The Democrats think they can lecture their way out of that.

lol. That’s a race to the bottom. No one wins except the shyttiest people. Black people lose the most.

 

[the cac mamba]

it's a tough one for the dems tbh

anti-CRT is just insecure white people who don't want to address the racist fukkin history of this country, because it's inconvenient to their narrative about how great this country is

but at the same time, CRT is just not a political winner for the dems they clearly have no choice but to disavow it