Creationist offers 10K to anyone who debunk Genesis account in court

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HACKS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS, BROTHER! NO MATTER WHAT EVIDENCE YOU PRESENT, THEY EITHER IGNORE IT, MOVE THE GOALPOSTS, OR CLAIM YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION, DUDE! NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T SIMPLY TAKE PROP BETS TO A US COURT, JACK!
 

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How much do you bet none of our resident Coli atheist rocket scientists will take up his offer :russ:

:childplease: you can insert any story into this "challenge", tell somebody to prove its not true, and they wont be able to do it

this is an embarassing display that proves nothing
 

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technically you can't prove it did happen.. that's why its called faith. Faith based beliefs allow you to defy all logic and human interpretation and understanding. Faith does not need to be validated so he would basically win no matter the proof.
 

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technically you can't prove it did happen.. that's why its called faith. Faith based beliefs allow you to defy all logic and human interpretation and understanding. Faith does not need to be validated so he would basically win no matter the proof.

You have the iq of a pencil.
 

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The "plug your ears and hum really loud" defense I don't think would work in a court of law my man.

how can you compare the big bang theory (theory being a key word) to "and god said let their be light"

scientifically man can't prove how we were created so how could anyone discredit the bible with hard core evidence. Miracles or gods powers is basically "magic" or heavenly mojo, either way you can't explain it no more than the evidence of other early like humans on planets that we will never reach.
 

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how can you compare the big bang theory (theory being a key word) to "and god said let their be light"

scientifically man can't prove how we were created so how could anyone discredit the bible with hard core evidence. Miracles or gods powers is basically "magic" or heavenly mojo, either way you can't explain it no more than the evidence of other early like humans on planets that we will never reach.


Lets take a look at this scientifically.

If every human on earth is descended from Adam and Eve, then there should be some genetic record of that, right? I mean I'm not a geneticist, but if my wife and I had kids, and those kids and their kids incested (word?) for a thousand generations (assuming they were all somehow fertile), it'd be pretty clear that all those kids came from the same lineage, I'd think.

So can't we just compare a few people's dna and say "yes, that happened" or "no, that didn't happen"?
 

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Lets take a look at this scientifically.

If every human on earth is descended from Adam and Eve, then there should be some genetic record of that, right? I mean I'm not a geneticist, but if my wife and I had kids, and those kids and their kids incested (word?) for a thousand generations (assuming they were all somehow fertile), it'd be pretty clear that all those kids came from the same lineage, I'd think.

So can't we just compare a few people's dna and say "yes, that happened" or "no, that didn't happen"?

Eve could've been a-sexual. We're going back thousands of years. Man can't definitively prove any events going back that far. It's all best guest. Theories change or evolve all the time. Man use to think the sun revolved around the earth and this wasn't that long ago. You can't prove any thing beyond a reasonable doubt either way. It's a lose lose argument.

And if you want to break it down scientific fukk DNA we are all made up of the same atoms.
 

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Eve could've been a-sexual. We're going back thousands of years. Man can't definitively prove any events going back that far. It's all best guest. Theories change or evolve all the time. Man use to think the sun revolved around the earth and this wasn't that long ago. You can't prove any thing beyond a reasonable doubt either way. It's a lose lose argument.


Breh :wtf:?

Have you heard of archaeology?

And if you want to break it down scientific fukk DNA we are all made up of the same atoms.

:mindblown:
 

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i dont really have a strong opinion. my agnosticism toward belief in deities extends to these matters as well. i say everybody should have to at the very least, provide solid evidence for any idea they put forward before i will start believing it.

I'm agnostic myself but I've come to understand that belief in God is faith based. I guess it's supposed to be. There's no real faith if the answer is clear as day in front of you.

But the reason I ask is because of your burden of proof statement. The issue at hand is how did the universe come to be? If someone claims intelligent design one could ask for proof. But the claim that there is no intelligent design would also require proof. That's why I take the middle course lol.

If someone wants proof that something spawned the universe I think they should have some proof that nothing spawned the universe because that claim sounds just as ridiculous IMO. Yet those seem to be the only 2 options.
 

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I'm agnostic myself but I've come to understand that belief in God is faith based. I guess it's supposed to be. There's no real faith if the answer is clear as day in front of you.

But the reason I ask is because of your burden of proof statement. The issue at hand is how did the universe come to be? If someone claims intelligent design one could ask for proof. But the claim that there is no intelligent design would also require proof. That's why I take the middle course lol.

If someone wants proof that something spawned the universe I think they should have some proof that nothing spawned the universe because that claim sounds just as ridiculous IMO. Yet those seem to be the only 2 options.
if believers leave their beliefs at faith, and stop trying to mix their beliefs with science and reason, then these issues would be avoided.

people actually show all kinds of proof that there is no intelligent design, evolution being a massive one.

but anyway, one does not have a burden to prove a negative if the negative is the default of what we know. we know that a god creating the universe is not self evident, so the first move is on the believer to present some evidence. if the evidence sticks, then the person who continues to be skeptical has to answer it, otherwise the burden of proof is only on the person putting forth the original idea.

that's like saying people who believe in unicorns, and people who dont believe in unicorns are on equal footing. it really is only up to the unicorn beleivers to present evidence first, then the skeptics should answer to that evidence
 
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