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Eh, it seems to have only affected an infinitesimally small segment of those who’ve been vaccinated; and of that, only teenagers and people in their 20s. It’s important for the CDC to investigate this. On that, I won’t disagree. But given how seemingly inconsequential this is and how too many uninformed people are already wary of taking the vaccine, it’s irresponsible to report this.

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Not necessarily when we don't truly know the long term effects of the medication and what it could have on the body. Just because someone isn't experiencing the heart inflammation issues now doesn't mean that they won't in a few months or years down the road. No one knows and it's irresponsible to disregard the effect that we're seeing now.

Similar to what happened with 9/11 and how a lot of those first responders and other people who helped out at ground zero didn't experience the effects of the chemicals and such until years down the road. Hence why they keep extending the claims deadline as a lot of those people are still developing cancer and other issues from that incident.
 

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Cases of the Delta variant of coronavirus have more than tripled in a week with 42 people now confirmed to have died after testing positive for the variant, 12 of whom had had both vaccines doses.

Public Health England (PHE) said that as of Wednesday, the UK has seen 42,323 confirmed cases of the B.1.617.2 variant first identified in India, up 29,892 from 12,431 a week ago, and an increase of 240%.

PHE said this has been partly driven by a reduction in test turnaround times, and a faster process for identifying cases of the variant.

The figures are a further blow to Boris Johnson's plan to lift lockdown on 21 June.


The prime minister is set to make an announcement on Monday, and a delay to the full lifting of restrictions is looking increasingly likely.

PHE said research indicates the Delta variant has a 60% increased risk of household transmission compared to the previously-dominant Alpha variant first identified in Kent, which caused the UK's winter crisis of infections, hospital admissions and deaths.

Researchers added it is "encouraging" the huge increase in Delta variant case numbers has not yet translated into a similar increase in hospitalisations.

Of 383 people admitted to hospital with the Delta variant, 251 were unvaccinated, 66 were more than 21 days after their first dose and 42 were more than 14 days after their second dose.

As of 7 June, there had been 42 deaths of people who had tested positive with the variant. Of these, 12 were more than 14 days after their second dose.

Responding to the new case numbers, Dr Jenny Harries, chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency, said: "Vaccination is our best defence. If you are eligible, we urge you to come forward and be vaccinated. Remember that two doses provide significantly more protection than a single dose."

Watch: Friday's daily politics briefing


In a further sign the end of lockdown could be delayed, Dr Harries highlighted the restrictions currently in place.

"While vaccination reduces the risk of severe disease, it does not eliminate it.

"With data showing that Delta is significantly more transmissible than Alpha, it is just as important as ever to follow public health advice, which has not changed.

"Get vaccinated, work from home where you can and remember ‘hands, face, space, fresh air’ at all times. These measures work, and they save lives."

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Boris Johnson will make an announcement about England's lockdown on Monday. (Getty Images)
The Times has reported Boris Johnson is considering delaying the end of lockdown by four weeks in order to provide extra time for people to receive both their vaccine doses.

More than 20 million UK adults still need to receive a second dose.

Appearing on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Friday, COVID-19 vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi effectively put forward a case for delaying.

“The vaccines have begun to sever the link between infection rates, cases, hospitalisations and deaths,” he said.

“It’s really important, with these hard-won battles against the virus… the virus hasn’t gone away, it will attempt to survive by mutating [and] it can only mutate if it has a population to infect."

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Nadhim Zahawi, pictured receiving his second vaccine dose earlier this week, said of the possible delay to ending lockdown: 'Let’s not squander these hard-fought gains.' (PA)
He added: “Let’s not squander those hard-fought gains.”

The Delta variant is about 60% more transmissible than the Alpha variant. Health secretary Matt Hancock said on Thursday that the Delta variant now makes up 91% of the UK's COVID cases.

Overall infections in the seven days up to Thursday, meanwhile, increased by 17,036 (63.2%) on the previous seven days.

Read more:

UK to donate at least 100 million surplus COVID vaccine doses to other countries within the next year, Boris Johnson pledges

Did Boris Johnson drop a major hint that 21 June is about to be delayed? (from Wednesday)

Previous modelling from University of Warwick researchers, in evidence supplied to the government last month, raised the prospect that a variant that is 50% more transmissible could lead to a peak of more than 20,000 daily hospital admissions in the middle of July if lockdown is lifted as planned.

The second wave peak on 12 January saw 4,578 patients admitted to hospital.

Speaking on Wednesday, Prof Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK’s leading COVID experts and whose modelling convinced Johnson to impose the first national lockdown in March last year, was asked if delaying the end of lockdown will make a difference.

“Yes," he said, “because it allows more people to get second doses.”

Watch: PM talks up UK's 'colossal' global vaccine pledge
 

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Never forget the tinfoilers, TLRepubs, and MAGAts downplaying hospitalizations and the risk of dying from Covid while they now shyt their pants over a much smaller percentage of serious vaccine side effects

You get your info about covid from where? How you know that people arent STILL dying from covid? How do you know those numbers are accurate especially when its out that they manipulated numbers and treat every damn case that came into the hospital or doctors office as being covid.

Folks are so sure of something they dont know for sure.
 

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it was reported that the "vaccines" are 81 percent effective against the indian variant. so 1/5th peak cases * effect of normal behaviour == how much?

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Recent research by the U.K. government has found that full vaccination is still largely effective against the Delta strain but may slightly be less effective than against other variants, and even less so after only one dose. The research found that two doses of a COVID vaccine provided 81 percent protection against the B.1.617.2 variant (compared with 87 percent protection against the B.1.1.7 variant). One dose only provided 33 percent protection against symptomatic infection from B.1.617.2 (compared with 51 percent protection against B.1.1.7). That means, according to a Financial Times analysis, that a single dose is 35 percent less effective against B.1.617.2 than it is against B.1.1.7.

If that is accurate, it means that B.1.617.2 may be the variant that currently poses the biggest threat to partially vaccinated populations worldwide.

Again, as with every known variant, full vaccination works against the Delta strain — but there are still signs that the variant marks a worrisome evolution in the coronavirus, and it seems likely it could raise the stakes for countries that continue to struggle to vaccinate their populations.
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What We Know About the Dangerous COVID B.1.617.2 Delta Variant
 

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Yes but why is it so hard for people to just admit that they're okay with people dying if it supports the greater good?

You just did that. See how easy it is? But these people are agents. They're not here to admit anything, just here to muddy the waters.

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Nah i didn't say i don't care bout the few dying, i just know what's what when it comes to being in a society, and there's not much one can do about it. I never took the vaccine either.
 

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The spin in here about it being a small number is hilarious.

Got a secret for y’all. It’s much more than 226 and that’s JUST the heart inflammation they’re reporting on here. Not the other things going wrong with people.

Don’t call me a anti vaxxer you idiots either because up until this point I played along and got myself and my children all vaxxed. Y’all just not using critical thinking when it comes to THIS one. But hey, 10 years from now? Come back to my post here.
 

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