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Part of me is still worried that I could become an unaware carrier. I have a friend who is getting surgery today. I would hate to think if I went to see her that I could make her sick.
I realize that I am protected to a certain extent, I am not 100% sure about everyone else at this point.
 

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I'll just leave this here ..

it took a long time for this "benign" fact to be admitted didn't it ... :ld:

one might think that there are at least grounds for an official investigation into the whole thing ... :ld:


unless you are one of the brehs on here that lets cognitive dissonance and uncomfortable data scare them away from information.

in that you guys are much the same as the assorted trumpists, racists, elitists and other "-ists" who refuse to cognitively step outside of their comfort zone.



Fauci and NIH defend giving $600K to Wuhan to study how viruses can transmit from bats to humans before COVID-19 outbreak - after being accused of funding 'gain of function' research in heated argument with Rand Paul
  • Anthony Fauci on Tuesday appeared before a Congressional budget committee
  • Fauci defended the spending of $600,000 on the Wuhan laboratory
  • Scientists now believe it is possible that COVID-19 escaped from the Wuhan lab
  • Fauci said the money, to be spend over five years, was 'modest'
  • He denied again that the cash was spent on 'gain of function' research
  • The controversial experiments make viruses more deadly or transmissible
  • On May 11 Fauci and Rand Paul sparred over how the U.S. funding was spent
  • Fauci insisted it was not spent on 'gain of function'; Paul said it was

Anthony Fauci has defended the United States' 'modest' and 'very respectable' funding of the Wuhan laboratory - which is now at the center of speculation as a possible source of the COVID-19 virus.

Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), appeared before a Congressional budget committee on Tuesday.

He defended allocating $600,000 to a group called EcoHealth Alliance, which then paid the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study the risk that bat coronaviruses could infect humans.

Under the terms of the funding, the money could not be spend on 'gain of function' research - a controversial practice which explores how viruses mutate and become more transmissible or more dangerous.

Fauci said the research was essential, pointing out that the SARS outbreak in the early 2000s was eventually traced back to bats.

'I would have been almost a dereliction of our duty if we didn't study this, and the only way you can study these things is you've got to go where the action is,' he said

Fauci and NIH confirm that $600,000 of public money went to Wuhan - two weeks after Rand Paul row | Daily Mail Online
 

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I'll just leave this here ..

it took a long time for this "benign" fact to be admitted didn't it ... :ld:

one might think that there are at least grounds for an official investigation into the whole thing ... :ld:


unless you are one of the brehs on here that lets cognitive dissonance and uncomfortable data scare them away from information.

in that you guys are much the same as the assorted trumpists, racists, elitists and other "-ists" who refuse to cognitively step outside of their comfort zone.



Fauci and NIH defend giving $600K to Wuhan to study how viruses can transmit from bats to humans before COVID-19 outbreak - after being accused of funding 'gain of function' research in heated argument with Rand Paul
  • Anthony Fauci on Tuesday appeared before a Congressional budget committee
  • Fauci defended the spending of $600,000 on the Wuhan laboratory
  • Scientists now believe it is possible that COVID-19 escaped from the Wuhan lab
  • Fauci said the money, to be spend over five years, was 'modest'
  • He denied again that the cash was spent on 'gain of function' research
  • The controversial experiments make viruses more deadly or transmissible
  • On May 11 Fauci and Rand Paul sparred over how the U.S. funding was spent
  • Fauci insisted it was not spent on 'gain of function'; Paul said it was

Anthony Fauci has defended the United States' 'modest' and 'very respectable' funding of the Wuhan laboratory - which is now at the center of speculation as a possible source of the COVID-19 virus.

Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), appeared before a Congressional budget committee on Tuesday.

He defended allocating $600,000 to a group called EcoHealth Alliance, which then paid the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study the risk that bat coronaviruses could infect humans.

Under the terms of the funding, the money could not be spend on 'gain of function' research - a controversial practice which explores how viruses mutate and become more transmissible or more dangerous.

Fauci said the research was essential, pointing out that the SARS outbreak in the early 2000s was eventually traced back to bats.

'I would have been almost a dereliction of our duty if we didn't study this, and the only way you can study these things is you've got to go where the action is,' he said

Fauci and NIH confirm that $600,000 of public money went to Wuhan - two weeks after Rand Paul row | Daily Mail Online
You acting like you hate right wingers but you keep quoting Dailymail.
@♛ ★ ⋯ Éminence grise look at this too



Meanwhile China vaccinated 19.461 million people in a day
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You acting like you hate right wingers but you keep quoting Dailymail.

twitter, facebook, social media and the splintering of discourse has a lot to answer for ..
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united states driven splintered media where you can only pay attention to "your team" is an aberration, and an unwelcome one at that.

do you know that the fathers of classical 20th century physics were largely "right wingers"?

it is often useful to separate the message from the messenger.

additionally:

practically speaking, as the DM has the greater resources and the greater online presence they are going to comment on breaking, but not major, stories relatively early.

the guardian or socialist worker (for example) are going to be much later because they do not have the same resources - especially online.

that is why the DM tends to be earlier than most others, especially in the UK.

but you already figured that out for yourself and were just messing with me.

right? :ld:

e.g.

" It is now the most visited English-language newspaper website in the world,"
MailOnline - Wikipedia

"The Guardian was consistently loss-making until 2019.[146] The National Newspaper division of GMG, which also includes The Observer, reported operating losses of £49.9 million in 2006, up from £18.6 million in 2005.[147] The paper was therefore heavily dependent on cross-subsidisation from profitable companies within the group."
The Guardian - Wikipedia
 

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Biden orders closer review of Covid origins as U.S. intel weighs Wuhan lab leak theory
  • President Biden has ordered a closer intelligence review of what he said were two equally plausible scenarios of the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic.
  • Biden revealed that earlier this year, he asked the intelligence community to assess "whether it emerged from human contact with an infected animal, or from a laboratory accident."
  • The hypothesis that the virus may have escaped from a Chinese lab has gained more mainstream traction.

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden announced Wednesday that he has ordered a closer intelligence review of what he said were two equally plausible scenarios of the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Biden revealed that earlier this year he tasked the intelligence community with preparing "a report on their most up-to-date analysis of the origins of Covid-19, including whether it emerged from human contact with an infected animal or from a laboratory accident."


"As of today, the U.S. Intelligence Community has 'coalesced around two likely scenarios' but has not reached a definitive conclusion on this question," Biden said in a statement.

"Here is their current position: 'while two elements in the IC leans toward the [human contact] scenario and one leans more toward the [lab leak scenario] – each with low or moderate confidence – the majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other," Biden said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/26/bid...sify-investigation-into-covid-19-origins.html
 

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Social media heavyweights wooed for Pfizer smear campaign

Influencers say they got offered thousands to spread fake news on Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine



LE PECQ, France (AP) — Social media influencers in France with hundreds of thousands of followers say a mysterious advertising agency offered to pay them if they agreed to smear Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine with negative fake stories.

French YouTuber Léo Grasset was among those contacted. He said Tuesday that he was offered a potentially lucrative but also hush-hush deal to make bogus claims that Pfizer’s vaccine poses a deadly risk and that regulators and mainstream media are covering up the supposed dangers.

Grasset, who has 1.1 million subscribers on YouTube, says he refused. Other France-based influencers with sizable audiences on Twitter, Instagram and other platforms also said they were contacted with similar offers of payment for posts.

The person who contacted Grasset identified himself as Anton and said his agency has a “quite considerable” budget for what he described as an “information campaign” about “COVID-19 and the vaccines offered to the European population, notably AstraZeneca and Pfizer.”

Specifically, Anton asked for a 45- to 60-second video on Instagram, TikTok or YouTube to say that “the mortality rate of the Pfizer vaccine is 3 times greater than the AstraZeneca” and querying why the European Union is buying it.

“This is a monopoly and is causing harm to public health,” Anton claimed of EU’s purchases.

He refused in a follow-up email to divulge who is financing the disinformation campaign, saying: “The client prefers to remain incognito.”

Grasset shared the email exchanges with The Associated Press.

The smear effort drew a withering response from French Health Minister Olivier Veran.

“It’s pathetic, it’s dangerous, it’s irresponsible and it doesn’t work,” he said.

The person who contacted Grasset said he works for an advertising agency called Fazze. A website for Fazze used to give a London address but that had been scrubbed from the site on Tuesday. Companies House, where British firms are registered, has no record of Fazze.

The AP sent emails requesting comment to a contact address listed on the website and to the email address used by Anton. Neither elicited an immediate response.

Anton’s emails included a password-protected link to a set of instructions in error-strewn English for the would-be campaign.

It said influencers who agreed to take part shouldn’t say that they were being sponsored and should instead “present the material as your own independent view.”

Other instructions were that influencers should say “that mainstream media ignores this theme” and should ask why governments are purchasing Pfizer.

A trainee doctor in southern France with tens of thousands of followers who was also approached for the smear effort told French broadcaster BFMTV that he was offered more than 2,000 euros ($3,000) for a 30-second video post.

Grasset said that given the large size of his YouTube following, he possibly might have earned tens of thousands of euros (dollars) had he agreed to take part.

Instead, he wrote back that “I can’t work for a client that won’t give its name and who asks me to hide the partnership.”

“Too many red flags,” Grasset said in an interview with AP. “I decided not to do it.”

“They wanted me to talk about the Pfizer vaccine in a way that would be detrimental to the Pfizer vaccine reputation,” he said.

He said the disinformation effort drives home the need for people “to be super, super cautious” about what they see online.

“We creators on YouTube, on internet, Instagram, et cetera, we are at the center of something going on like an information war,” he said. “We, as creators, need to set our standards really high because it’s, I think, just the beginning.”


Hard to even guess with that little information, but the part about the error-strewn English makes me think that this may have been done by someone in one of the countries that has major AstraZeneca production facilities. AstraZeneca is made in 15 different countries including some major production facilities in India, so someone might have gotten shook that efficacy concerns were lowering AstraZeneca demand and tried to start a campaign to shift the balance.

It might also have been anti-vaxxers but I have trouble imagining anti-vaxxers tossing that much real dough, and the focus specifically on Pfizer leads it to sound more like a rival's work.
 

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Social media heavyweights wooed for Pfizer smear campaign

Influencers say they got offered thousands to spread fake news on Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine






Hard to even guess with that little information, but the part about the error-strewn English makes me think that this may have been done by someone in one of the countries that has major AstraZeneca production facilities. AstraZeneca is made in 15 different countries including some major production facilities in India, so someone might have gotten shook that efficacy concerns were lowering AstraZeneca demand and tried to start a campaign to shift the balance.

It might also have been anti-vaxxers but I have trouble imagining anti-vaxxers tossing that much real dough, and the focus specifically on Pfizer leads it to sound more like a rival's work.

I find it hard to believe someone would risk losing their account over this
 
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