COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Thank you and glad you're feeling better. shyt sounds rough. I expect more of these testimonies when Flu/Covid come together this fall.

Thank you.
shyt sucks ass, no doubt.
I hope they make some progress in the months leading up to fall/winter

 

[Dr. Acula]

This shyt is crazy. This is a young woman with no comorbidities

Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others

Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others
The operation is believed to be the first of its kind in the U.S. The patient, a woman in her 20s, had been healthy, but the coronavirus devastated her lungs.

An extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, or ECMO, room, where coronavirus patients struggling to breathe are treated, at a Northwestern Medicine facility in Chicago.Credit...Northwestern Medicine
By Denise Grady

• June 11, 2020Updated 12:51 p.m. ET

A young woman whose lungs were destroyed by the coronavirus received a double lung transplant last week at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, the hospital reported on Thursday, the first known lung transplant in the United States for Covid-19.

The 10-hour surgery was more difficult and took several hours longer than most lung transplants because inflammation from the disease had left the woman’s lungs “completely plastered to tissue around them, the heart, the chest wall and diaphragm,” said Dr. Ankit Bharat, the chief of thoracic surgery and surgical director of the lung transplant program at Northwestern Medicine, which includes Northwestern Memorial Hospital, in an interview.

He said the patient, a woman in her 20s who had no serious underlying medical conditions, was recovering well: “She’s awake, she’s smiling, she FaceTimed with her family.”

More story in the link

Here is a picture of her lung

One of the lungs removed from the patient. The surgeon said the damage was among the worst he’d seen.Credit...Northwestern Medicine

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Why is @Rarely-Wrong Liggins still offering medical advice in here?

Dude has been a bad faith agent and said this was just like the flu several times.

Please, do not listen to that fool for any advice.

He just a truck driver, worried about his biz taking a hit

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Why is @Rarely-Wrong Liggins still offering medical advice in here?

Dude has been a bad faith agent and said this was just like the flu several times.

Please, do not listen to that fool for any advice.

He just a truck driver, worried about his biz taking a hit

The arrogance of it all


And from what I remember about @TENET is that he holds an advanced degree from an ivy league school in biology or biochemistry.

I'm probably off but his background is something close to that.

 

[eXodus]

This shyt is crazy. This is a young woman with no comorbidities

Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others



More story in the link

Here is a picture of her lung

What the fukk yo! I feel like there is some sort of antibody-dependant enhancement causing this hyper-inflammatory response.

some people just get such a tough go at it with this virus. I can’t find anything definitive on that aspect though

 

[FaTaL]

 

[FaTaL]

This shyt is crazy. This is a young woman with no comorbidities

Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others



More story in the link

Here is a picture of her lung

perfectly healthy and this happens. It has to be something genetic

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

perfectly healthy and this happens. It has to be something genetic

Theres a missing link we Havent discovered yet. You got people who getting wrecked for weeks, while others don’t even realize they have it. And it’s not like no chronic illness = no problem. I see seemingly perfectly healthy people like that getting destroyed while you got dudes with illnesses who still have no symptoms or very mild.

It’s gotta be something inside the genetic code that makes the virus tougher for certain people

 

[FaTaL]

Theres a missing link we Havent discovered yet. You got people who getting wrecked for weeks, while others don’t even realize they have it. And it’s not like no chronic illness = no problem. I see seemingly perfectly healthy people like that getting destroyed while you got dudes with illnesses who still have no symptoms or very mild.

It’s gotta be something inside the genetic code that makes the virus tougher for certain people

Could it be blood type?

 

[eXodus]

perfectly healthy and this happens. It has to be something genetic

I just read this about another coronavirus MERS

In order to discover more about non-lethal infections and to learn whether a single infection with MERS-CoV would protect against reinfection, we inoculated rabbits with MERS-CoV and monitored the antibody and inflammatory response. Following intranasal infection, rabbits developed a transient dose-dependent pulmonary infection with moderately high levels of viral RNA, viral antigen, and perivascular inflammation in multiple lung lobes that was not associated with clinical signs. The rabbits developed antibodies against viral proteins that lacked neutralizing activity and the animals were not protected from reinfection. In fact, reinfection resulted in enhanced pulmonary inflammation, without an associated increase in viral RNA titers.

Our data from the rabbit model suggests that people exposed to MERS-CoV who fail to develop a neutralizing antibody response, or persons whose neutralizing antibody titers have waned, may be at risk for severe lung disease on re-exposure to MERS-CoV.

Inflammatory changes were more severe upon reinfection compared to primary infection, with the greatest inflammation observed in the animals previously infected with the low dose of virus

it makes me wonder if folks maybe were exposed to another coronavirus like 229E or NL63 or maybe even SARS.Cov2 was around in the states since September/October (or at least some time before Jan 2020 where shyt hit the fan) and those who are having extreme reactions are actually RE-INFECTIONS .. with the first infection having been, asymptomatic or indistinguishable from the common cold.. widely unnoticed.

And now these 2nd waves are producing hyper immune responses in those with mal-adopted antibodies like the rabbits in that MERS study

 

[null]

I just read this about another coronavirus MERS


it makes me wonder if folks maybe were exposed to another coronavirus like 229E or NL63 or maybe even SARS.Cov2 was around in the states since September/October (or at least some time before Jan 2020 where shyt hit the fan) and those who are having extreme reactions are actually RE-INFECTIONS .. with the first infection having been, asymptomatic or indistinguishable from the common cold.. widely unnoticed.

And now these 2nd waves are producing hyper immune responses in those with mal-adopted antibodies like the rabbits in that MERS study

As mentioned .. I found the post with the peak prosperity re-infection storm discussions

Peak Prosperity was discussing some reports about 4 - 6 weeks ago that suggested that the cytokine storm could be worse on a reinfection.

Just did a quick search:

ts = 18m30s . mentions Spanish Flu defines the storm



and ts = 21m discusses reinfection



add some salt ...

 

[eXodus]

Theres a missing link we Havent discovered yet. You got people who getting wrecked for weeks, while others don’t even realize they have it. And it’s not like no chronic illness = no problem. I see seemingly perfectly healthy people like that getting destroyed while you got dudes with illnesses who still have no symptoms or very mild.

It’s gotta be something inside the genetic code that makes the virus tougher for certain people

Similar to the 1968 flu pandemic, the 1957 outbreak was associated with variation in susceptibility and course of illness. Whereas some infected individuals experienced only minor symptoms, such as cough and mild fever, others experienced life-threatening complications such as pneumonia. Those persons who were unaffected by the virus were believed to have possessed protective antibodies to other, closely related strains of influenza.

i feel like it has to do with the immune response/antibodies


My gut is telling me, it’s similar how H2N2 was but the opposite. The theory was those who DID have antibodies from similar strains of H2N2 were protected from severe infections..

whereas with Covid-19 perhaps the inadequate antibodies from some previous coronavirus infection is whats causing trouble in the severe cases. So it’s similar to the above but the opposite outcome. It’s hard to find anything definitive on this though

@TENET

You’re right! Dengue fever does a similar thing, I know that peak prosperity also mentioned that virus specifically when talking about the immune response aspect

Dengue viral infections can result in a range of symptoms. Some people show no symptoms or only have mild signs of the disease. Other people develop severe complications. How does the body respond to a dengue infection? What factors put some people at a greater risk of severe dengue illnesses than other people? The human body's immune system is the primary defense against the dengue virus.

When someone is infected with dengue, the body's innate and adaptive immune responses work together to fight the virus. B cells from the immune system produce antibodies that recognize and neutralize dengue viral particles, and cytotoxic T cells recognize and kill cells that are infected with the virus. People who are infected a subsequent time with a different type of the dengue virus may experience something called "antibody-dependent enhancement" in which the body's immune response actually makes the clinical symptoms of dengue worse and increases a person's risk of developing severe dengue.

 

[Consigliere]

Theres a missing link we Havent discovered yet. You got people who getting wrecked for weeks, while others don’t even realize they have it. And it’s not like no chronic illness = no problem. I see seemingly perfectly healthy people like that getting destroyed while you got dudes with illnesses who still have no symptoms or very mild.

It’s gotta be something inside the genetic code that makes the virus tougher for certain people

Other possible factors: immune system strength, diet, environment, amount of virus exposure

 

[old pig]

If you got the funds or can find one for delivery get a oximeter

You are wrong. We are dealing with a life here. I am not arguing with you.

Your blood oxygen level can fall (leading to hypoxia and organ failure) whether you have breathing difficulties or not. That is why OP needs a pulsoximeter asap. If you show low blood oxygen levels the hospital will not send you home. Spreading your falsehoods all over this thread is one thing but dangerous medical advice is another. I already decided to skip over your posts without comment but in this case I cannot sit by while breh follows that nonsense that you wrote.

'Happy' hypoxia: Covid-19 patients who should be gasping for air but aren't - CNN
and
'Silent hypoxia' may be killing COVID-19 patients, but there's hope
and
tons of links and info in this very thread.

dapped and repped...they’re not too expensive but I understand some may not be able to spare the funds for a variety of reasons

 

[R.U.L.E.]

They can still fly down to come here. You just can't go up there as an American citizen. Ask me how I know

Hold on breh. I need more info on this.

Can the joints drive into the US? And if so when they return will they have to quarantine?

You may be a life savor. Getting tired of smashing my local joint