COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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Renewed outbreaks in South Korea, Germany and China show continued risk as more countries seek to reopen
https://www.cnn.com/profiles/james-griffiths
Hong Kong (CNN)

"It's not over until it's over."

That was South Korean President Moon Jae-in, speaking Sunday after a new cluster of coronavirus cases emerged in the country's capital Seoul, sparking fear of a second wave of infections in the East Asian country.


South Korea was among the first places to deal with a major coronavirus epidemic, and seemed to be on track to loosen restrictions, after weeks of social distancing measures and careful surveillance. But the new cluster seems to have put an end to that, for now, with Moon warning his people "we must never lower our guard regarding epidemic prevention."
China too, is introducing renewed restrictions after two cities reported new cases of the virus. Shulan, in Jilin province in the country's far northeast, has been put under lockdown, following 11 newly confirmed cases. Jilin borders both Russia and North Korea, and concerns have previously been raised over imported cases from overseas causing a renewed outbreak.


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People sit in a park in Seoul, South Korea on Sunday. The country announced its highest number of new coronavirus cases for more than a month on Monday.
More alarming are the new cluster of infections in Wuhan, the central Chinese city where cases of the novel coronavirus were first detected late last year. Wuhan was the first city in the world to enter into lockdown, only returning to relative normality late last month after 76-days.


On Monday, city officials said five new cases had been confirmed in the city, none of which were imported from overseas. While that is a far cry from the figures at the beginning of the crisis, or those being reported daily across much of western Europe and the United States right now, the apparent ability of the virus to continue spreading undetected -- especially in a city as intensely surveilled and restricted as Wuhan -- will lead to concerns about the viability of reopening.


Mi Feng, spokesman for China's National Health Commission, on Sunday urged people to "stay alert and step up personal protection against the virus." He added that the new clusters were a reminder to avoid social gatherings and seek medical advice or testing should anyone exhibit virus symptoms.
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Before the latest cases, the number of new infections in both China and South Korea had slowed to a trickle, with local transmission appearing to be halted. While questions can be raised over the accuracy of China's numbers, or the certainty anyone can have that all cases have been detected and contained in a country so large, South Korea's response has been hailed as one of the best globally, aided in part by the country's relative small size and easily-controlled borders.

Elsewhere in Europe, Germany had also been held up as an example of how to handle an outbreak, but its reproduction number has increased to above one for the past two days in a row, according to its center for disease control, the Robert Koch Institute (RKI). This means that one infected person is on average infecting more than one other person.

It was seen as a regional success story thanks to a well-resourced health system and early mass testing. The country's reproduction number was estimated to have fallen to 0.65 last Thursday, and it had begun a slow reopening. Chancellor Angela Merkel told the public last week that they could "afford a bit of courage," while cautioning that "we have to watch that this thing does not slip out of our hands."
RKI said there was still a "degree of uncertainty" with the latest estimates but the increase in reproduction rate "makes it necessary to observe the development very closely over the coming days."


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The German federal government and the states had agreed on a snap-back mechanism in case the virus returns. If any county exceeds 50 new coronavirus infections per 100,000 inhabitants, lockdown measures will be reintroduced in that county. Over the weekend, several counties across the country exceeded that limit.

The latest cases may yet turn out to be a blip that will be contained, but that three countries which appeared to be on top of matters are again reporting domestic transmissions should be majorly concerning.

Observers only need look at Singapore -- which in the beginning of April had less than 2,000 cases, and now has more than 23,000 -- as to the potential risks of relaxing too soon and assuming the battle is won when it's only just begun. The city state is ramping up contact tracing, restrictions on movement, and even deploying robot dogs to encourage social distancing as it tries to get its outbreak under control.

Will any lessons from these countries be learned in the West, where countries are several weeks behind in their outbreaks, but many governments are already champing at the bit to relax lockdowns, despite sky-high infection rates?


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Recent history suggests not. Western governments lagged in their response to the virus as it spread through Asia, despite clear evidence of the potential for a global pandemic. Asian experience and advice was also ignored on face masks until months into the pandemic -- a recent study by scientists in Hong Kong and the United Kingdom is only the latest to confirmthat such coverings drastically reduce infection rates.

The new infections in China and South Korea also risk prompting a nihilistic response. If countries that appear to be on top of the disease cannot contain it, what can a nation with thousands of daily cases hope to do? But this is arguably the wrong takeaway -- these countries had the worst outbreaks in the world in February, but managed to get them under control. That they are seeing new cases is a lesson about the risks of relaxing too soon, not a reason to give up the fight entirely.

Nor is the message out of Asia all grim. Vietnam and Thailand are discussing the potential creation of a travel corridor, so confident are they that their domestic outbreaks are contained. New Zealand and Australia have already agreed to do the same -- though not for several months.

And Hong Kong, which successfully reined in a second wave of the virus when it seemed like the city might go the way of Singapore, has gone 21 days with no local infections, raising the possibility of being declared virus free later this month.

It's not over until it's over. But it will be over, eventually. What Asia's experience is showing is that this will require continued vigilance, and a lot of patience.
CNN's Fred Pleitgen in Berlin contributed reporting.

Renewed Covid-19 outbreaks in South Korea, Germany and China show the continued risk of reopening - CNN
 

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This virus is one of the worst things for cacs.

They can't bomb it
they can't block it from entering

so in order to not take a massive L (Which they already did) they're trying to cling to Freedom. Which the virus took already.
fukk them.
newsflash YOU CAN'T PROTEST A VIRUS DUMB ASSES.
"our freedom doesn't end where you fear begins"

Remember that when a black person comes near your car and you're locking the doors.

Whst pisses these CACs off is that They cannot use heavy military style weapons and kill off the virus. Their entire lives is use guns to kill any and everything that doesn't bow to them, simply cause they own guns. Now this virus doesnt discriminate, and they cannot comprehend that.
 

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Just found out that I'm on work from home status until August 17th. They might as well just say that my department doesn't have to ever come back:mjlol:



They're letting 45 people back in my office every 2 weeks. The building houses 1100 people. I'm not sure when I'm going back to work. But I'm good working from home.

I'm waiting for this next stimulus and tax break
 

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My comments having watched that video.

The main points in the evidence section are as follows,

9:56 “If the virus had been engineered it would have used the backbones that we know”
nonsense. she even contradicted herself 1 minute later “if they had used a new backbone”

10:00 “we can find every piece of that virus within viruses that circulate in the wild”
and … experiments have been done to inserts part of one virus into another

10:53 “close match in pangolins”
not in the area that matters.

11:30 “eating wild animals vs lab evidence”
nonsense statement.
like saying “people have been dying from natural causes for thousands of years so this death cannot be murder”

12:00 “the closest known relative is different enough that it is not covid II”
and? that argues against a natural development no?
and “known”? it is close enough to SARS to be defined as a strain of SARS I

That video is a puff piece IMO. Thin on evidence and weak argumentation.
Well as stated in the video, there is more evidence of it's natural origin than manufactured. No credible evidence of the latter and more of the former. But I know we won't agree here and I know a few people put more value in the view that it is a manufactured virus. So, don't want to really dwell on that argument. Got to just accept we may have different perspective
 

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Well as stated in the video, there is more evidence of it's natural origin than manufactured. No credible evidence of the latter and more of the former. But I know we won't agree here and I know a few people put more value in the view that it is a manufactured virus. So, don't want to really dwell on that argument. Got to just accept we may have different perspective

Thin on evidence I said.

"there is more evidence of it's natural origin than manufactured."

What specific evidence?
 

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That shyt ended terriby and abruptly. Dude had the asian reporter feeling extra offended (Maybe you should ask CHi-Na!?) , then dismissed the next reporter then shut it down and walked off. SASSY Drumpf!

MSNBC and CNN bout to run with that.
 

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Thin on evidence I said.

"there is more evidence of it's natural origin than manufactured."

What specific evidence?
Like I said breh, usually I don't mind back and forths but no hate or offense not really interested in the debate. Again no hate or bad vibes. Just don't got the energy for it.
 

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Like I said breh, usually I don't mind back and forths but no hate or offense not really interested in the debate. Again no hate or bad vibes. Just don't got the energy for it.

You have seen people speak about evidence but you have no idea what it is ... That's fine.

I agree /theend.

More generally it's only on the coli that you ask a simple question and get answers with "hate" or "offense" disclaimers. I am interested in the science.

:salute:
 

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You have seen people speak about evidence but you have no idea what it is ... That's fine.

I agree /theend.

More generally it's only on the coli that you ask a simple question and get answers with "hate" or "offense" disclaimers. I am interested in the science.

:salute:
Nah, I'm serious. Not about the coli. I got some shyt going on in real life. If you know how I post, you'd know I'm not one of those types who shies away from maybe paper length posts and loads of links to support my arguments. It's not something I shy from. Told @loyola llothta the same thing the other day. I made posts but not with the intent to get in back and forth. Again, just saying not interested in a long debate at the moment. If I post a link or evidence then you will refute and then I have to respond and it goes on. So I'm just killing it from the start.
 
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