How’s your cut looking?i was at my barber the day the firsat death in nyc happened, with some old woman, and they were all like they making a big deal out of nothing and all that.
That was the last time I could get a haircut
COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)
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Yep I was wrong, that’s what happens with predictions.
you've been wrong about everything so far, and still making bold predictions and promoting dangerous behavior in the middle of a pandemic.
John Reena
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I hope my state Governor extends the stay at home order, Louisiana’s infection rate keeps going up
Trojan 24
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He was, now he's busy selling all his assets acting like he's about to live like a drifter and not renting a multi million dollar place
What else have I been wrong about? I’m still going to be outside and enjoying life. What you mad about?
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You haven't seen proof because you are not widely read and because you are not even keeping up with this thread.
I am preparing an answer for the other post...
Trojan 24
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Okay be sure they're actually asymptomatic and didn't have mild symptoms, also be sure the numbers are big enough to be relevant then I'll take a look
And remember I never said asymptomatic people were good to go
As it should. The sooner people stay at home, the sooner this thing will starve and die
Not too bad
I bought a cheap clipper on amazon to lineup and trim the side. I have curly hair so it flattens when i shower and i dont have to walk around with big hair
Ill tell yall right now my grandfather is recovered but he still in a bad way, he might have lost his mind for some reason while in there. Im in the hospital now with my grandma on mothers day she got water in her heart and lungs were trying not to get it to pneumonia. She was negative but then developed an unknown bronchitis a day after the diagnosis.Theres is barely anybody here tho brehs and I mean that in a eerie way something aint right im the only visitor, they took my temperature and all before coming in. I dont know how people can still downplay this
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Show me the numbers of asymptomatic people having issues, most asymptomatic people aren't getting tested so how can we truly tell the affects
And no where in that post did I say the asymptomatic people were perfectly fine
The effects are more widespread that this just being a respiratory disease.
Covid19 affects other organs by virtue of the fact that it binds to ACE2 and CD147 outside of the lungs.
Effects of this such as silent hypoxia or cytokine storms which lead to people without visible symptoms dying with organ failure at home. I was wondering why people were dying so quickly at home. Sometimes being found dead at home without having the chance to get help and this is one of the reasons. With these you can end up dead before you know you have a problem. You can end up with chronic problems.
The scope of the effects of Covid19 is being quantified as we speak.
There is a good video out there which lists some of the effects which have been seen in clinical treatment.
There are reports of asymptomatic lung damage - which is understandable and not unexpected if you understand Covid19 progression within the body.
Dr, Campbell goes through the mechanics. Medcram too. There are good videos which go into how Covid effects lungs, the immune system and other organs. Good medical instructional resources and videos should be pinned IMO.
All of these videos are already in this thread.
The links re. asymptomatic damage are also already in this thread.
The problem is that people do not do the background study yet still want to run their mouth,
Even today there was a "consumer level" article about this is in the DM.
You said average now you say majority.
The chart says that once you catch it you are as a minimum twice as likely to die from it irrespective of your age.
As for average do you know what the average age / health profile is of Americans? Average age of Americans is 38.1 years old. Add in obesity and that's around half in at least the 40 age + profile risk level which is 4 times the flu as a minimum. (Co-morbidities increase odds by 80% - google).
Then you have long-term damage to lungs in the recovered and the asymptomatic.
From University of Minnesota
Studies profile lung changes in asymptomatic COVID-19, viral loads in patient samples
In new research developments, a team from Wuhan, China, reports that even asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 pneumonia have abnormal lung findings on computed tomography (CT), and a group from Beijing noted that viral loads from infected patients appear to peak 5 to 6 days after symptom onset.
Studies profile lung changes in asymptomatic COVID-19, viral loads in patient samples
From The Lancet
COVID-19 pneumonia manifests with chest CT imaging abnormalities, even in asymptomatic patients, with rapid evolution from focal unilateral to diffuse bilateral ground-glass opacities that progressed to or co-existed with consolidations within 1–3 weeks. Combining assessment of imaging features with clinical and laboratory findings could facilitate early diagnosis of COVID-19 pneumonia.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30086-4/fulltext
Even Maldini said this today two weeks after recovery
Paolo Maldini reveals he is STILL struggling with the after-effects of coronavirus | Daily Mail Online
Coronavirus infection may cause lasting damage throughout the body, doctors fear
So then you have
High risk open questions and unknowns..
1. reinfection / immunity storm topics - attrition of repeated infection
2. long term damage - esp. for asymptomatic carriers
3. other organ damage + transmission vectors (blood?)
Then you have
Asymptomatic and recovered patients have exhibited organ (lungs in particular) damage. This would make they less likely to handle a successive infection.
Here from Colombia Uni virologist Angela Rasmussen, PhD (Angela Rasmussen, PhD | Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health) about long-term damage for asymptomatic / mild cases of covid19.
ts 46m36s "If you have Pulmonary Fibrosis [which covi19 can cause in mild / recovered cases] it is not a condition that just clears up, that will be a chronic condition that you will be living with for the rest of your life" - said within the context starting at ts 44m.
Someone else provided links to ~7 videos. Are you actually going to watch them. Are you actually going to refute my points one by one?
I doubt it.
For the record - roughly
80% are generally asymptomatic
14% need some medical attention
4% need hospitalization
1% die
So
Potentially 80% lung damage
Potentially 4% or more organ damage - including heart, kidney, lungs
1% dead with a working medical system. More without.
Is NOT the same as the flu where 0.1% die.
Yes there are many open questions but so far the picture looks like I spelled out and it is far from being what happens during the flu.
Did you actually watch the videos that someone else posted. I am guessing not and that is why people don't want to waste their time on you.
People do NOT want to do your heavy intellectual lifting for you and the rest of the parrots.
And even though these points have been detailed on here over and over and over again you can bet your bottom dollar that someone else is going to come in here parroting the same nonsense before long.
EDIT: correction 0.1%
Cytokine Storm and Hypoxia
Full disease explanation - pre CD147 detailed!!!
Disease infection infection summary
Full disease explanation - pre CD147 detailed!!!
Disease infection infection summary
Trojan 24
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Asymptomatic patients with pneumonia?
I didn't run my mouth about shyt, you're just mad I pointed out you had a white finger. Like it really matters
‘The next crisis’: Up to 43 million Americans could lose health insurance due to the pandemic
Almost 30 million Americans unemployed.
Over 80,000 deaths from this pandemic and 90% of them could of been prevented.
Experts: 90 percent of US coronavirus deaths could have been avoided if measures taken just two weeks earlier
Politcians want to get rid medicare/ACA/healthcare during a pandemic instead of putting M4A/universal healthcare on the table
State governments want to re-open ASAP even with minimal or no testing and no vaccine.
Hell their even telling medical examiners and the CDC to stop disclosing their CV infection/death numbers.
All the while the President bungles this on like the evil idiot he is.
America is #1 is coronavirus cases and deaths cause it's literally the stupidest cruelest inhumane and most violent excuse for a first world country in the world.
Way to go for American exceptionalism.
Almost 30 million Americans unemployed.
Over 80,000 deaths from this pandemic and 90% of them could of been prevented.
Experts: 90 percent of US coronavirus deaths could have been avoided if measures taken just two weeks earlier
Politcians want to get rid medicare/ACA/healthcare during a pandemic instead of putting M4A/universal healthcare on the table
State governments want to re-open ASAP even with minimal or no testing and no vaccine.
Hell their even telling medical examiners and the CDC to stop disclosing their CV infection/death numbers.
All the while the President bungles this on like the evil idiot he is.
America is #1 is coronavirus cases and deaths cause it's literally the stupidest cruelest inhumane and most violent excuse for a first world country in the world.
Way to go for American exceptionalism.