COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)
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Mirin4rmfar
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Naw, you are just dumb and don't understand basic mathematics and multipliers
. This virus would wreak havoc every damn season if it is not taking under control or a vaccine is created. Its way too contagious and its a wrap for most people with underlying conditions but would still be alive with normal flu symptoms.Counter Racist Male
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You said average now you say majority.
The chart says that once you catch it you are as a minimum twice as likely to die from it irrespective of your age.
As for average do you know what the average age / health profile is of Americans? Average age of Americans is 38.1 years old. Add in obesity and that's around half in at least the 40 age + profile risk level which is 4 times the flu as a minimum. (Co-morbidities increase odds by 80% - google).
Then you have long-term damage to lungs in the recovered and the asymptomatic.
From University of Minnesota
Studies profile lung changes in asymptomatic COVID-19, viral loads in patient samples
In new research developments, a team from Wuhan, China, reports that even asymptomatic patients with COVID-19 pneumonia have abnormal lung findings on computed tomography (CT), and a group from Beijing noted that viral loads from infected patients appear to peak 5 to 6 days after symptom onset.
Studies profile lung changes in asymptomatic COVID-19, viral loads in patient samples
From The Lancet
COVID-19 pneumonia manifests with chest CT imaging abnormalities, even in asymptomatic patients, with rapid evolution from focal unilateral to diffuse bilateral ground-glass opacities that progressed to or co-existed with consolidations within 1–3 weeks. Combining assessment of imaging features with clinical and laboratory findings could facilitate early diagnosis of COVID-19 pneumonia.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30086-4/fulltext
Even Maldini said this today two weeks after recovery
Paolo Maldini reveals he is STILL struggling with the after-effects of coronavirus | Daily Mail Online
Coronavirus infection may cause lasting damage throughout the body, doctors fear
So then you have
High risk open questions and unknowns..
1. reinfection / immunity storm topics - attrition of repeated infection
2. long term damage - esp. for asymptomatic carriers
3. other organ damage + transmission vectors (blood?)
Then you have
Asymptomatic and recovered patients have exhibited organ (lungs in particular) damage. This would make they less likely to handle a successive infection.
Here from Colombia Uni virologist Angela Rasmussen, PhD (Angela Rasmussen, PhD | Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health) about long-term damage for asymptomatic / mild cases of covid19.
ts 46m36s "If you have Pulmonary Fibrosis [which covi19 can cause in mild / recovered cases] it is not a condition that just clears up, that will be a chronic condition that you will be living with for the rest of your life" - said within the context starting at ts 44m.
Someone else provided links to ~7 videos. Are you actually going to watch them. Are you actually going to refute my points one by one?
I doubt it.
For the record - roughly
80% are generally asymptomatic
14% need some medical attention
4% need hospitalization
1% die
So
Potentially 80% lung damage
Potentially 4% or more organ damage - including heart, kidney, lungs
1% dead with a working medical system. More without.
Is NOT the same as the flu where 0.01% die.
Yes there are many open questions but so far the picture looks like I spelled out and it is far from being what happens during the flu.
Did you actually watch the videos that someone else posted. I am guessing not and that is why people don't want to waste their time on you.
People do NOT want to do your heavy intellectual lifting for you and the rest of the parrots.
And even though these points have been detailed on here over and over and over again you can bet your bottom dollar that someone else is going to come in here parroting the same nonsense before long.
Counter Racist Male
Retired poster and occasional lurker
From Feb 2020 IIRC
The numbers are based on a healthier white population. I believe the + 40 death rate is much closer to 30% for black people.
the three days of darkness will be glorious. Trump is really about to save humanity
Hold on to your ass it's about to start.
Counter Racist Male
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Chrishaune
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ALonelyDad
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Uh....that's not how this works man.
They aren't tracking everyone that recovered so "completed" cases vs deaths has no pattern.
Fred.
ok, good point, the figure is incomplete to represent the whole. however the 35% is not irrelevant.Uh....that's not how this works man.
They aren't tracking everyone that recovered so "completed" cases vs deaths has no pattern.
Fred.
of the ones they've tracked until completion, 35% have ended in death so far. the % might get smaller, yesterday it was larger