Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

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Pretty big stretch to say it's because he's Chinese.
He had no government experience and had no stage presence.
Also he's too capitalist the capture the leftists and UBI is too "extreme" of a policy to capture the moderates.
Probably true. I did have a lot of respect for him though. He seemed like a fairly principled guy and I liked that he was running on policy instead of platitudes
 

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Not sure why we’re applauding the Chinese for their donations when they caused this, and this ain’t the first time they’ve caused a pandemic from their crazy ass wet markets. like it’s only right to help other countries fight it.
That was probably me. And I can appreciate your POV. I don’t even disagree. I dunno. I’m just stressed breh. And I’m happy right now to express gratitude to anyone offering help.

I’ve been saying the wet market shyt needs to be addressed for a long time. I think at this point in a global society there need to be some heavy reforms regarding those places. I know those markets feed a lot of people, but there needs to be more health department codes, stricter rules on what can be served, what animals can be kept with what other animals, etc.

I’m thankful to that Chinese dude donating the tests and masks but it doesn’t mean I’m not annoyed that their wet markets keep causing problems.
 

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That was probably me. And I can appreciate your POV. I don’t even disagree. I dunno. I’m just stressed breh. And I’m happy right now to express gratitude to anyone offering help.

I’ve been saying the wet market shyt needs to be addressed for a long time. I think at this point in a global society there need to be some heavy reforms regarding those places. I know those markets feed a lot of people, but there needs to be more health department codes, stricter rules on what can be served, what animals can be kept with what other animals, etc.

I’m thankful to that Chinese dude donating the tests and masks but it doesn’t mean I’m not annoyed that their wet markets keep causing problems.
Yea, I mean I’m happy they can ramp up production to help, and maybe it’s wrong to be annoyed by them, but Jesus, they’re going to get us all killed one of these times.

I’m also wondering at what point the world takes food rationing seriously so that you do t have populations being forced to eat crazy shyt and causing these outbreaks (although some people will continue to do it for the move,th)
 

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So how will that work exactly? Every adult American will get the $1000 every month? I mean i do think it’s a good idea because it will boost up the economy with whatever people will use it for. I don’t get how people can say this is a bad thing. Will this effect the national debt or something?
Cost of living will just increase its honestly a stupid idea. People will just charge more for rent food etc
 

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Companies under 50 people can also claim a hardship exemption.

They saying this only covers 20% of companies

It’s crazy that a local business with 500 employees has to provide paid leave while a multi-national with 100K plus employees gets an exemption similar to companies with less than 50 employees. :heh:

It is so fukking absurd.

Establishment Dems out here playing good cop to the GOP’s bad cop once again.

Anything to protect their masters.
 

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Pretty big stretch to say it's because he's Chinese.
He had no government experience and had no stage presence.
Also he's too capitalist the capture the leftists and UBI is too "extreme" of a policy to capture the moderates.


Trump was a celebrity and he became president :francis:
 

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Yea, I mean I’m happy they can ramp up production to help, and maybe it’s wrong to be annoyed by them, but Jesus, they’re going to get us all killed one of these times.

I’m also wondering at what point the world takes food rationing seriously so that you do t have populations being forced to eat crazy shyt and causing these outbreaks (although some people will continue to do it for the move,th)
Yea, I mean I’m happy they can ramp up production to help, and maybe it’s wrong to be annoyed by them, but Jesus, they’re going to get us all killed one of these times.

I’m also wondering at what point the world takes food rationing seriously so that you do t have populations being forced to eat crazy shyt and causing these outbreaks (although some people will continue to do it for the move,th)

Is eating crazy shyt out of necessity or just cultural though?

These a$$holes have driven Rhinos to extinction because they believe Rhino horns are boner pills.

In my Nore voice: The Chinese gotta relax.
 

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Is eating crazy shyt out of necessity or just cultural though?

These a$$holes have driven Rhinos to extinction because they believe Rhino horns are boner pills.

In my Nore voice: The Chinese gotta relax.
It started out of necessity but the stuff like rhinos and tigers is folklore that got taken up by the rich who think those animals give them power, strength, etc
 

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South Korea's Drive-Through Testing For Coronavirus Is Fast — And Free

March 13, 20201:52 PM ET
Anthony Kuhn


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Health workers in protective suits talk to a motorist at a drive-through testing center for COVID-19 in Seoul.

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If you roll up to a drive-through COVID-19 testing center in South Korea, you might notice that safety procedures extend all the way to your car's air conditioning. You will be advised to hit the recirculation button so that if you're sick, you can keep your pathogens to yourself, in your car, and avoid infecting the medical personnel doing the testing.

The test takes 10 minutes at most. Results are texted to you, usually the next day. And it's free — paid for by the government.

Drive-through centers have helped South Korea do some of the fastest, most-extensive testing of any country. And while nobody is claiming that South Korea has defeated the outbreak, experts credit the emphasis on testing with reducing case numbers and fatalities.


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"I think our approach was right," says professor Lee Hyukmin of the Yonsei University College of Medicine in Seoul. "We will continue to see sporadic infections," he predicts. "But still, the situation in Daegu," the epicenter of the outbreak, "is being stabilized."

South Korea has about 8,000 infections. Italy and Iran overtook it this week as the countries with the most cases outside of China. South Korea's new cases have gradually declined since the end of last month. For the first time since Jan. 20, the number of patients released from treatment on Friday, March 13 — 510 — outnumbered the 110 new cases.

A nation of 51 million, South Korea has tested about 250,000 people since its outbreak began on Jan. 20, with a daily capacity of 15,000. It has conducted 3,600 tests per million people compared to five per million in the U.S.

South Korea's aggressive testing may make it unnecessary to impose the sort of lockdowns to which China and Italy have resorted, although health officials insist that all options remain on the table in dealing with the epidemic.

"It's much better to test and then quarantine a specific person than to do a citywide or provincewide lockdown, which in certain ways prevents the virus from leaving the province but actually doesn't make the province any less likely to have high infection rates," says Eric Feigl-Ding, a senior fellow at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, D.C., and an epidemiologist at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health.

He points out that testing capacity is not just about getting enough test kits. It requires years of investment in complex health care infrastructure, including lab hardware and technicians to analyze samples, logistics for moving goods and providing services and information technology to keep supplies and data moving. Any bottleneck or shortage of these elements can cost time and lead to more infections and deaths.

"In order for Korea to carry out all these tests, you have to get all these ducks in a row," says Feigl-Ding, which is why he concludes: "I think Korea has done a great job." By contrast, he adds, "the United States has not."

South Korea, however, learned many of its lessons the hard way — by not having sufficient resources to cope with previous epidemics, notably the 2015 MERS outbreak. At the time, the Korean Centers for Disease Control, or KCDC, was the only institution authorized to do epidemiological testing.

The problem, says Yonsei University's Lee Hyukmin, is that "in South Korea, private institutions account for 90% of the medical system, and 90% of our testing capacity," especially laboratories to analyze samples. "So we needed the support of the private sector."

Now, he says, public and private sectors cooperate more efficiently, having come together in voluntary collaboration. And the KCDC reorganized to respond more effectively to epidemics, including a branch specifically in charge of testing and diagnosing infectious diseases.

The medical sector has come up with innovations such as the drive-through clinics. The clinics simplify the time-consuming process of protecting medical workers from infection.

Dr. Liu Jaehong, who is on his lunch break in a tent next to one of four drive-through testing centers run by the Seoul municipal government, has also worked at indoor testing facilities.

"It takes at least 10 minutes to disinfect the waiting room between visitors," he explains, but because those visitors stay in their car, "we don't need that process."

Getting tested in one's own car "feels more convenient and safe," says motorist Kim Soo-jeong, as she drives out from the center following a test.

One Seoul test center consists of four trailerlike offices with white canopies in front. Doctors in full protective suits and goggles take the driver's temperature with an infrared thermometer and hand out a questionnaire to fill out. If you're running a fever and, in the doctor's opinion, may be at risk based on where you've been or whom you've contacted, you're eligible for a test. Only the driver is tested — passengers are not.

The drive-through clinics are catching on elsewhere, including in the U.S. Washington state, New York, Connecticut and Colorado are the first to adopt them. And it's easy to see why. Liu Jaehon says that in drive-through clinics, he can test 10 people an hour — roughly double what he could do at an indoor clinic.
 
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