Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

[choc_cardigan]

His material nowadays is definitely adjacent to the people he hangs out with. I do see how someone could get confused if they followed him in the 90s/2000s and watched his show but he's no longer the same person he was back then.

He is way richer for one. And he did throw that festival during peak pandemic.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

For "I believe in the science... except for profits" crowd

FDA staff say Pfizer COVID-19 boosters may not be needed, but do improve immunity

Sept 15 (Reuters) - U.S. Food and Drug Administration scientists said on Wednesday that booster doses of Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine may not be needed, even though the third shot generates a higher immune response in recipients.

The FDA staff members said in a document prepared for outside advisors that it is still unproven that the efficacy of Comirnaty - the COVID-19 vaccine Pfizer developed with Germany's BioNTech SE - is declining.

"Some observational studies have suggested declining efficacy of Comirnaty over time against symptomatic infection or against the Delta variant, while others have not," they said in the document.

"However, overall, data indicate that currently U.S.-licensed or authorized COVID-19 vaccines still afford protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death in the United States."

The FDA staff did say the booster dose met pre-specified conditions the regulator had set to show that the shot was generating an immune response.

However, they said in the document that licensure for the boosters should also consider ability to prevent hospitalization and death, as well as the dynamics of the pandemic in the United States.

The agency released the document on Wednesday for consideration by a committee of outside experts who will meet on Friday to decided whether to recommend if U.S regulators should approve the extra round of shots.

The FDA staff view reflects that of many scientists who have questioned whether the boosters are necessary broadly, even as President Joe Biden has pushed for the additional shots in the face of surging hospitalizations and deaths caused by the highly contagious Delta variant of the coronavirus.

After the FDA meets, a panel of advisors to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is planning to meet next week to make its recommendation, according to White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki.

PFIZER ARGUES BOOSTER APPROVAL

Pfizer, in a document it prepared for the meeting, argued that U.S. regulators should approve a booster shot of its vaccine for use six months after the second dose due to waning effectiveness over time.

Pfizer said data from its own clinical trials showed that the vaccine's efficacy diminished by around 6% every two months after the second dose. It also said the incidence of breakthrough COVID-19 cases in that trial was higher among people who received their shots earlier.

The company also pointed to real world data from Israel and the United States showing declining effectiveness of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

The U.S drugmaker said in a roughly 300-participant clinical trial, the third dose generated a better immune response than the second. It also pointed to data from the booster program recently started in Israel to show that a third dose restores high levels of protection from the virus.

Earlier this week, two top FDA vaccine scientists were among the authors of an article saying they do not believe the current data supports giving the shots. One of those scientists - Marion Gruber, director of the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review - will be speaking at Friday's meeting.

Some U.S. officials are hoping boosters might prevent mild cases and reduce transmission of the virus as well as reducing COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths, which could hasten America's recovery.

Some countries have already begun COVID-19 booster campaigns. The United States authorized extra shots for people with vulnerable immune systems last month.

Reporting by Michael Erman, Additional reporting from Manojna Maddipatla in Bengaluru; Editing by Nick Zieminski, Chizu Nomiyama and Bill Berkrot

I'm still getting my booster, it can't hurt & it can only help so why not? There's tons of unused doses in this country. My parents already got their boosters.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Always gotta be the Weakest one out the Crew

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Florida GOP official who wanted to 'end Faucism' dies from COVID-19 - Raw Story - Celebrating 17 Years of Independent Journalism

Don't Florida my Fauci.

 

[mastermind]

His material nowadays is definitely adjacent to the people he hangs out with. I do see how someone could get confused if they followed him in the 90s/2000s and watched his show but he's no longer the same person he was back then.

His comedy back then isn’t that far off from this either, imo. The show changed who was fukking with him. Now he a rich guy comedian.

 

[mastermind]

I'm still getting my booster, it can't hurt & it can only help so why not? There's tons of unused doses in this country. My parents already got their boosters.

It’s a cash grab

And like 80% of the globe hasn’t taken one shot.

 

[bnew]

It’s a cash grab

And like 80% of the globe hasn’t taken one shot.

I never got the flu vaccine in my adult life but I intend to get the booster shot.

over time the body dials back the number of anti-bodies the vaccine initially triggered into production since no covid antigen is detected. the booster shot is so your immune system will be triggered to creating more anti-bodies, that way you'll have a standing army of anti-bodies thats ready to get to work the moment the spike protein+covid is detected. it's better than having no anti-bodies circulating and waiting for your immune system to detect and rev up production of antibodies when it might be too late because covid spreads quickly undetected. i read somewhere 2/3 of covid DNA is meant to evade your immune system.

 

[88m3]

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[PoorAndDangerous]

It’s a cash grab

And like 80% of the globe hasn’t taken one shot.

Ok? I’m not paying for the vaccine and I’ve seen multiple studies indicating waning protection after 6-8 months. The doses are sitting here locally, they’re not being given away so I’m going to use one.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

 

[radio rahiem]

Hochul says religious exemption not a legitimate excuse to avoid COVID-19 vaccine

 

[mastermind]

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Ok? I’m not paying for the vaccine and I’ve seen multiple studies indicating waning protection after 6-8 months. The doses are sitting here locally, they’re not being given away so I’m going to use one.

Did you both read the article? It said FDA SCIENTISTS. It’s their opinion. Their research. Those people who work there.

We are going to be dogs chasing our own tails by not first vaccinating the rest of the globe as we will continue seeing new variants and then new boosters.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Did you both read the article? It said FDA SCIENTISTS. It’s their opinion. Their real search. Those people who work there.

We are going to be dogs chasing our own tails by not first vaccinating the rest of the globe as we will continue seeing new variants and then née boosters.

I don't disagree, but why would I not take a booster that is available to me?

It's not my fault the vaccines aren't open source and shared with other manufacturers. Also, we're assuming that the rest of the world would actually take the vaccination. Odds are it's going to be just like it is here, 50% of people won't get vaccinated and variants will pop up anyway. We're never going to get rid of COVID via vaccination unless an mRNA vaccine is developed that can target COVID as a whole regardless of the variant, which is entirely possible. Also anti-viral drugs are possible & we should really be investing in accurate, easy, fast low cost at-home test kits. At this point I've accepted that we're going to continuously need boosters. I know how safe mRNA vaccines are, so I'm not really worried about it. I'm just doing what I can to protect myself and my family.

 

[mastermind]

I don't disagree, but why would I not take a booster that is available to me?

It's not my fault the vaccines aren't open source and shared with other manufacturers. Also, we're assuming that the rest of the world would actually take the vaccination. Odds are it's going to be just like it is here, 50% of people won't get vaccinated and variants will pop up anyway. We're never going to get rid of COVID via vaccination unless an mRNA vaccine is developed that can target COVID as a whole regardless of the variant, which is entirely possible. Also anti-viral drugs are possible & we should really be investing in accurate, easy, fast low cost at-home test kits. At this point I've accepted that we're going to continuously need boosters. I know how safe mRNA vaccines are, so I'm not really worried about it. I'm just doing what I can to protect myself and my family.

We should first invest in letting other nations manufacture their generic versions of these vaccines. It’s going to be a lot of chasing variants, getting boosters and a never ending cycle where the only winners are pfizer and moderna.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

We should first invest in letting other nations manufacture their generic versions of these vaccines. It’s going to be a lot of chasing variants, getting boosters and a never ending cycle where the only winners are pfizer and moderna.

We're in agreement here, but there's nothing you or I can do about it. Not getting a booster isn't going to do jack shyt.