Cornell West's Presidential Run is Stupid, Short sighted, and will lead to fascists taking over..

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

No it won't. There's zero evidence that he's going to attract the type of support needed to impact a general election. Am I a fan of him? No. Do I think this is a deliberate attempt to throw the election to republicans, preferably Trump? Yes. But I think there's a major miscalculation at work. There's a clear decision being made by powerful people - specifically in tech, from Elon to Jack - that the best way to get Trump (or DeSantis) elected is by splitting the democrat vote and creating chaos or bitterness. Basically they want a repeat of 2016, where an unpopular nominee lost due to apathy and indifference. The problem is that the indifference of that year was driven by two principles:

1. "Yea but Trump isn't going to win"
2. "Even if he won there's no way he'd be as bad as you say"

Well...everyone saw how both those played out. Republicans have lost or struggled in every major election since 2016. It's clear there's a large group of voters who will vote against Trump no matter what and they're the most powerful coalition in this country. Folks aren't falling for the okie doke. Also I don't think DeSantis will win the nomination but if he did, I don't think people would sit by and let him win either.

You can't possibly really believe the bolded.

It's only June of 2023 and y'all already going hardbody retarded with the "Progressives cost us the election!!!" narrative.

We know it's the lowest hanging fruit but the damn things aren't even ripe yet. Chill.

 

[ORDER_66]

This country already full of psychopaths and fascists OP... what good is it for black folks to save this country again and again but get nothing of it... fukk it let it burn.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Why would you say he's a better option and then admit you don't know what you're talking about

I don't know about those specific things, I didn't say I don't know anything about him.
I'm just not aware of conspiratorial stuff

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

I’d take 3rd party presidential bids seriously if they did anything in between presidential elections.

They don’t spend anytime doing grassroots stuff or trying to win local and state elections. Then they just show up every 4 year and throw out a nominee. Let’s pretend they win the presidential election. The president isn’t a king. What’s the president gonna do when he has no ally’s in congress? Or governors to help push the agenda?

To further illustrate this. The People’s Party formed in 2020. They only have presidential ballot access in 2 states. If they couldn’t even do the one thing that even allows them to have a chance of getting elected in the first place; I’m not exactly in a rush to hand the keys over to them. shyt, Cornel West only went after the green nomination when he realized the peoples party only had access in 2 states.

 

[Piff Perkins]

You can't possibly really believe the bolded.

It's only June of 2023 and y'all already going hardbody retarded with the "Progressives cost us the election!!!" narrative.

We know it's the lowest hanging fruit but the damn things aren't even ripe yet. Chill.

Did you read my fukking post outside of one sentence? I specifically stated I am not concerned because they can't throw an election to Trump. Yes, I believe there are members on the far left who WANT to do that...the problem for them is that the political situation has shifted so much it's not gonna work.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

To further illustrate this. The People’s Party formed in 2020. They only have presidential ballot access in 2 states. If they couldn’t even do the one thing that even allows them to have a chance of getting elected in the first place; I’m not exactly in a rush to hand the keys over to them. shyt, Cornel West only went after the green nomination when he realized the peoples party only had access in 2 states.

The people's party is the worst possible example you could give.
The people's party is barely a party, loads of sketchy shyt with them

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Did you read my fukking post outside of one sentence? I specifically stated I am not concerned because they can't throw an election to Trump. Yes, I believe there are members on the far left who WANT to do that...the problem for them is that the political situation has shifted so much it's not gonna work.

Listen to Nader here.
It's Kyle but couldn't find this Nader video anywhere else.

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[EndDomination]

Can we be honest about this here. What's the point of his campaign if it will just enable a Trump or DeSantis victory? And no one in left online space wants to be honest about this because he's Cornell West.

Now that he's running for the Green party it seems he'll have a greator potential to shore up more votes.

No it won't.

Cornel West's run for either the Green Party or the People's Party will have a negligible effect on the election, if there is an effect at all.
The vastly larger portion of the vote will come from the apathetic public who chooses not to vote at all, followed by the Republican voters and Democratic voters then the Libertarian voters, THEN the Green Party voters.

If the Dems can't win against Trump then they fukking suck at their jobs.

 

[EndDomination]

I'm not aware of him being a conspiracy theorist or rubbing such shoulders but i'm guessing he must have had an interview on fox when Tucker was there or something. Listen I can't speak for him but my guess is if no one on the left, MSNBC or CNN and the likes, invites you over to their show then if you are running for president you'll gonna have to go somewhere.
If CNN and MSNBC don't invite him over then does he go nowhere? I mean is he running or not.

Also this is not about RFK, my post was about 3rd party options whoever that person may be.

So forget about RFK, going back to my post, why not Cornell.
Why must we handcuff ourselves to perpetual stagnation?

Voting for the lesser evil should never be a permanent solution

He has spent the last few decades railing against vaccines, lobbying Global South countries to ignore vaccine mandates, and has a direct hand in the deaths of thousands of children throughout the Global South dying from preventable disease.

Why do you post when you don't seem to ever have a grasp of what you're talking about. The only two things RFJ Jr. is famous for are: 1.) being a Kennedy and, 2.) being an anti-vaxx psychopath.

Cornel is a great political commentator, he has not shown that he'd be a good politician - though that goes for most politicians

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

The people's party is the worst possible example you could give.
The people's party is barely a party, loads of sketchy shyt with them

This thread is literally about Cornel West. Who is currently the peoples party nominee. Them being a shytty party doesn’t detract from my point about these third parties not putting in work in between presidential elections to become relevant.

Assuming you’re engaging in good faith. Let’s strike my entires statement about the peoples party. What’s your opinion on third parties not putting in the work in non-presidential election years.

 

[MushroomX]

After the whole Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, Democrats really ain't voting for a 3rd Party because of the damage of what Trump caused.

 

[Hood Critic]

I'll never get how people keep screaming about the importance of democracy but then always oppose 3rd party options.

Cornell West, Marianne Williamson & RFK are all better options then Biden, so why not?

I'm not aware of him being a conspiracy theorist or rubbing such shoulders but i'm guessing

To go from this to that, is the exact reason no one takes these unserious candidates or apologists for them seriously. Dislike Biden all day long but lets have a tangible discussion about his accomplishments and how you feel any of the above three could server us better.

 

[Hood Critic]

Let that man run. You don’t have to vote for him. He knows he won’t win and just wants to get his platform out there.

What is Dr. West's platform exactly?

 

[Hood Critic]

I’d take 3rd party presidential bids seriously if they did anything in between presidential elections.

They don’t spend anytime doing grassroots stuff or trying to win local and state elections. Then they just show up every 4 year and throw out a nominee. Let’s pretend they win the presidential election. The president isn’t a king. What’s the president gonna do when he has no ally’s in congress? Or governors to help push the agenda?

To further illustrate this. The People’s Party formed in 2020. They only have presidential ballot access in 2 states. If they couldn’t even do the one thing that even allows them to have a chance of getting elected in the first place; I’m not exactly in a rush to hand the keys over to them. shyt, Cornel West only went after the green nomination when he realized the peoples party only had access in 2 states.

Exactly. All 3 candidates named in this thread are simply election spoilers who have no tangible plans other than to oppose the current guy with the job.

Their running doesn't strengthen the party in any meaningful way and they've built no real following to pressure Biden into making changes to his platform.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Listen to Nader here.
It's Kyle but couldn't find this Nader video anywhere else.

TImestamped:

Again, I do not believe Cornell West will have any impact on the election. At the same time I think there are people who clearly think they can influence the election via primary and general election fukkery. I don't think it's a coincidence that multiple tech barons are hyping RFK, a complete lunatic with no shot at contesting the nomination. They wanted a contested primary followed by a third party run from him, and they think recreating 2016 is their best shot. But again, that's not how shyt works. Biden will easily be re-nominated and whoever wins the general election will do so on their own accord. Third parties aren't swaying any large group of people.