Copper linked to Alzheimer's disease

Julius Skrrvin

I be winkin' through the scope
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
16,319
Reputation
3,285
Daps
30,746
No i dont think im going to be quiet. A variety of diseases grip our seniors in their final moments. Lets hope that the ones that grip us when we get old dont disable our ability to be close to God in our final moments, friend.
Dementia diseases are the only ones with no cure and the only existing treatments are just methods to delay the progression of the disease. If anything, Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia directly interfere with 'being close to god'. A person with Dementia cannot pray or coherently ask God for help, if he exists. I am happy that you have realized your words were laid out in haste, and have retracted them. Let's not get too zealous about our religious beliefs and end up saying careless statements about the ill. That doesn't seem holy to me, friend.
 

Liu Kang

KING KILLAYAN MBRRRAPPÉ
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
13,769
Reputation
5,513
Daps
29,956
How do you think Ronald Reagan got alzheimers. Wouldnt rich people have better access to medical treatment to avoid certain types of diseases.
I don't know if you're trolling or not and I won't go back and forth with you if so but if it's an honest question, here's my honest answer :
Wealth doesn't change the fact that our bodies are always "late" on diseases.
A rich person may have access to better medical treatment but if researchers haven't find the cure yet, said person will only have access to better illness-slowing medication. As I said, our way of life is the reason these "new" diseases pop, and I strongly advise you to watch documentaries about pesticides and how they mess up with our health to understand what I mean. For example, some tribes that lives far from the civilized and indutrialized world have extremely low (if not null) rate of cancers because they don't share our lifestyle.

And at the end, research is a slow trial-and-error and reactive process and unfortunately our environnement change faster than researchers can find solutions. Cures are only possible when a disease is identified, its causes known and a way of efficiently fighting it is found. That takes decades.
 

Mr. Somebody

Friend Of A Friend
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
28,262
Reputation
2,041
Daps
43,614
Reppin
Los Angeles
All this has given Dr. Snowdon, author of a new book on the study called "Aging With Grace" (Bantam), a rare window through which to examine why some nuns thrive and others deteriorate so much they lose speech, mobility and much of their memory. The differences show up even in nuns with virtually identical backgrounds, even those who are biologically related.

At 93, Sister Nicolette Welter still reads avidly, recently finishing a biography of Bishop James Patrick Shannon. She knits, crochets, plays rousing card games and, until a recent fall, was walking several miles a day with no cane or walker.

But a younger sibling, Sister Mary Ursula, 92, shows clear Alzheimer's symptoms, Dr. Snowdon said. Several times a day, Sister Nicolette feeds and reads prayers to Sister Mary Ursula, who uses a wheelchair and can hardly lift her head or gnarled hands.

The other day, Sister Nicolette prompted Sister Mary Ursula to remember her age and birth date, but when Sister Nicolette asked if she recalled when "Sister Julia told you to pick up the Kleenex people used after Mass and you didn't want to," Sister Mary Ursula's eyes glazed, showing no hint of recognition.

Another Welter sister, 87-year-old Sister Claverine, is still active and clearheaded. A fourth sibling, Sister Mary Stella, died in 1996 at 80.

"I wouldn't have any idea why this happened to Mary Ursula," said Sister Nicolette, "but I just feel like I'll keep my mental faculties."

Some of Dr. Snowdon's research suggests she might be right. Sister Nicolette's autobiography, written when she was 20, was full of what Dr. Snowdon calls "idea density," many thoughts woven into a small number of words, a trait correlating closely with nuns who later escaped Alzheimer's.

One sentence in Sister Nicolette's essay, for example, reads, "After I finished the eighth grade in 1921 I desired to become an aspirant at Mankato but I myself did not have the courage to ask the permission of my parents so Sister Agreda did it in my stead and they readily gave their consent."

Compare that to the essay of another Mankato nun, who is in her late 90's and has performed steadily worse on the memory tests. The nun, who sat quietly by a window the other day, wrote in her essay, "After I left school, I worked in the post- office."

The Nun Study's latest published findings offer similarly provocative ideas about how positive emotional state in early life may contribute to living longer. Experts say linking positive emotions in the autobiographies to longer life echoes other studies showing that depression increases risk of cardiovascular disease and that people rated as optimists on personality tests were more likely than pessimists to be alive 30 years later.

The findings also raise questions like, What underlies the positive emotions?

"How much of this is temperament?" Dr. Suzman said. "How much of it is affected by life events and critical relationships with parents, friends, teachers, peers?" :ohhh:

Overall, Dr. Snowdon says, the nuns live significantly longer than other women. Of the 678 in the study, 295 are alive and are all 85 or older. In the Mankato convent alone, there have been seven centenarians, many free of dementia.
 

Julius Skrrvin

I be winkin' through the scope
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
16,319
Reputation
3,285
Daps
30,746
Im referencing your personal thoughts based on a post that Kool G Trap wrote. I dont want to ask him because he seems to be upset with me at the moment so im going to give him some time to cool off.

How does Alzheimers tear apart families.
I work in geriatrics, so the majority of people have dementia or cognitive decline of some sort. It is devastating to the families. Family will come to visit and they won't recognize their children or siblings. They don't know where they are, what time it is, what date it is. They cry out constantly for help or loved ones that are no longer on this earth. They can't move well, having severe issues with muscle control, and so they often fall, breaking a major bone. Especially the women. The elderly don't heal well, and are prone to infection as well. The cost and emotional demand on families is high.

My grandfather has the disease. It is heartbreaking to us all, especially since he was an intellectual. A great man that came up from being nearly homeless to an international scholar with a great government job, never corrupt. He instilled the importance of education and higher learning in all of us. He taught me many of the skills I know today. When you see a man like that reduced to a child who can't recognize family and can't remember events that happened hours earlier, it breaks your heart.


There are many contributing factors; genetic, environmental, and social. People with graduate degrees tend to have less of a chance of succumbing to dementia, for example.
 

Sensitive Blake Griffin

Banned
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
37,124
Reputation
2,638
Daps
67,702
Im referencing your personal thoughts based on a post that Kool G Trap wrote. I dont want to ask him because he seems to be upset with me at the moment so im going to give him some time to cool off.

How does Alzheimers tear apart families.
Breh, I can't even believe you're serious right now. Imagine if your mom forgot you even existed. My grandma got it, and though she always remembered me (for some reason she remembered males a lot more) she forgot who my cousins and sisters were. It's a very degenerative disease. Alzheimer's patients forget where they are, where they're going and what they're doing. It's really fukking sad. I saw a picture on reddit the other day of an older guy with Alzheimers who keeps proposing to his wife everyday because he doesn't know they're married. It's sweet and very sad at the same time.
 

Mr. Somebody

Friend Of A Friend
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
28,262
Reputation
2,041
Daps
43,614
Reppin
Los Angeles
I don't know if you're trolling or not and I won't go back and forth with you if so but if it's an honest question, here's my honest answer :
Wealth doesn't change the fact that our bodies are always "late" on diseases.
A rich person may have access to better medical treatment but if researchers haven't find the cure yet, said person will only have access to better illness-slowing medication. As I said, our way of life is the reason these "new" diseases pop, and I strongly advise you to watch documentaries about pesticides and how they mess up with our health to understand what I mean. For example, some tribes that lives far from the civilized and indutrialized world have extremely low (if not null) rate of cancers because they don't share our lifestyle.

And at the end, research is a slow trial-and-error and reactive process and unfortunately our environnement change faster than researchers can find solutions. Cures are only possible when a disease is identified, its causes known and a way of efficiently fighting it is found. That takes decades.
I never troll but thank you for your insight. This really puts the capabilities of modern medicine into perspective. Even the rich and powerful are clueless when it comes to prevention and or turning around crippling mental illness. Whats interesting is how some of the nuns in the study that Serious posted were able to escape Alzheimers, friend.
 

Mr. Somebody

Friend Of A Friend
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
28,262
Reputation
2,041
Daps
43,614
Reppin
Los Angeles
I work in geriatrics, so the majority of people have dementia or cognitive decline of some sort. It is devastating to the families. Family will come to visit and they won't recognize their children or siblings. They don't know where they are, what time it is, what date it is. They cry out constantly for help or loved ones that are no longer on this earth. They can't move well, having severe issues with muscle control, and so they often fall, breaking a major bone. Especially the women. The elderly don't heal well, and are prone to infection as well. The cost and emotional demand on families is high.

My grandfather has the disease. It is heartbreaking to us all, especially since he was an intellectual. A great man that came up from being nearly homeless to an international scholar with a great government job, never corrupt. He instilled the importance of education and higher learning in all of us. He taught me many of the skills I know today. When you see a man like that reduced to a child who can't recognize family and can't remember events that happened hours earlier, it breaks your heart.


There are many contributing factors; genetic, environmental, and social. People with graduate degrees tend to have less of a chance of succumbing to dementia, for example.
Is your name jeff i real life?
 

Sensitive Blake Griffin

Banned
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
37,124
Reputation
2,638
Daps
67,702
Oh, also, my grandma got taken advantage of in the nursing home by the daughter of one of the male residents there, she drove my grandma to her bank and got out a bunch of money.
 

Serious

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
80,164
Reputation
14,319
Daps
190,918
Reppin
1st Round Playoff Exits
Im referencing your personal thoughts based on a post that Kool G Trap wrote. I dont want to ask him because he seems to be upset with me at the moment so im going to give him some time to cool off.

How does Alzheimers tear apart families.
I mean I don't think anyone deserves Alzheimers. I just merely remember reading about the Nun study. Point blank many of the origins and cures for alzhiemers are largely unknown, but I believe the strong social environment, in which "religious" people tend to engage in, can be somewhat beneficial living a longer and healthier life. Especially since people are likely to be around peers and keep each other sharp by brushing ideas off one another.

Numerous studies have revealed a correlation between having several friends later in life, to stronger cognitive benefits. Sohh being in a friendly environment, such as the nuns in the study, helped fight off the cognitive decay, by essentially rewiring synapses throughout their brain, despite the aging process taking it's toll, through creating huge gaps(holes) in their brain....

As far as tearing apart families, I still don't get how this ties in Alzheimers....Having a family member with Alzhemiers can be very stressful and tiring...
 

Julius Skrrvin

I be winkin' through the scope
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
16,319
Reputation
3,285
Daps
30,746
Oh, also, my grandma got taken advantage of in the nursing home by the daughter of one of the male residents there, she drove my grandma to her bank and got out a bunch of money.
That's so fukked up. Dementia is one of the reasons the elderly are so prone to being scammed, especially with that QVC shyt. I hope those demons burn in hell.
 

Mr. Somebody

Friend Of A Friend
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
28,262
Reputation
2,041
Daps
43,614
Reppin
Los Angeles
Breh, I can't even believe you're serious right now. Imagine if your mom forgot you even existed. My grandma got it, and though she always remembered me (for some reason she remembered males a lot more) she forgot who my cousins and sisters were. It's a very degenerative disease. Alzheimer's patients forget where they are, where they're going and what they're doing. It's really fukking sad. I saw a picture on reddit the other day of an older guy with Alzheimers who keeps proposing to his wife everyday because he doesn't know they're married. It's sweet and very sad at the same time.
Who do you think is more sad, the person with the disease or the family?
 

Sensitive Blake Griffin

Banned
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
37,124
Reputation
2,638
Daps
67,702
That's so fukked up. Dementia is one of the reasons the elderly are so prone to being scammed, especially with that QVC shyt. I hope those demons burn in hell.
Yeah, it was sad. I basically accepted the fact that my Grandma was dead when the alzheimers/dementia really set in and she had to go into the nursing home. She was the most perfect stereotypical grandma ever, she was my only grandma that was ever really really involved in my life. No matter how good of a person you are, getting old ain't pretty.
 

Mr. Somebody

Friend Of A Friend
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
28,262
Reputation
2,041
Daps
43,614
Reppin
Los Angeles
Yeah, it was sad. I basically accepted the fact that my Grandma was dead when the alzheimers/dementia really set in and she had to go into the nursing home. She was the most perfect stereotypical grandma ever, she was my only grandma that was ever really really involved in my life. No matter how good of a person you are, getting old ain't pretty.
How often do you and your family visit grams before the disease and currently?
 
Top