Cooling down the heat with a little drizz(y)le: Raptors Vs Heat Thread

[O.G.B]

The original argument was you claiming K-Mart was better than Joe and me calling you out on it. That's all there is to it. Trying to shift the argument only makes you look more silly.

This wasn't the actual basis of the original debate & trying to shift the narrative while ignoring the stats only continues to make you look like more of a coward than you already are!

And just as an FYI!

Kevin Martin - 17.4 PPG Career
Joe Johnson - 16.9 PPG Career

Kevin Martin - 30.2 Minutes Per Game Career
Joe Johnson - 36.0 Minutes Per Game Career

Kevin Martin - .384 3pt% Career
Joe Johnson - .372 3pt% Career

Kevin Martin - 1141-2969 3PM-A Career
Joe Johnson - 1832-4928 3PM-A Career

Kevin Martin - .870 FT Career
Joe Johnson - .801 FT Career

Kevin Martin - .09 Steals Career
Joe Johnson - .09 Steals Career

Kevin Martin - 1.7 TO Career
Joe Johnson - 2.0 TO Career

Kevin Martin - 3.7 REB Career
Joe Johnson - 4.2 REB Career




Who legitimately takes any of your analysis & basketball knowledge seriously

 

[MVike28]

Game 7 home teams usually blow out the visitors which Heat did with the Hornets

So guess what happens today?

 

[Miggs]

Dam its amazing how Bron been to the last five Finals and about to do six finals in a row

And lose 4 of em

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This wasn't the actual basis of the original debate & trying to shift the narrative while ignoring the stats only continues to make you look like more of a coward than you already are!

And just as an FYI!

Kevin Martin - 17.4 PPG Career
Joe Johnson - 16.9 PPG Career

Kevin Martin - 30.2 Minutes Per Game Career
Joe Johnson - 36.0 Minutes Per Game Career

Kevin Martin - .384 3pt% Career
Joe Johnson - .372 3pt% Career

Kevin Martin - 1141-2969 3PM-A Career
Joe Johnson - 1832-4928 3PM-A Career

Kevin Martin - .870 FT Career
Joe Johnson - .801 FT Career

Kevin Martin - .09 Steals Career
Joe Johnson - .09 Steals Career

Kevin Martin - 1.7 TO Career
Joe Johnson - 2.0 TO Career

Kevin Martin - 3.7 REB Career
Joe Johnson - 4.2 REB Career




Who legitimately takes any of your analysis & basketball knowledge seriously

Why are you only using box score numbers , why are you leaving out assists and why are you leaving out shooting percentages with the proper attempts and most importantly why are you using career numbers - the argument is centered around what both players are capable of at this stage of their careers? Neither player is at their peak or prime, so why the fukk are using career #s?

It's about what they both can provide NOW/this season, now what they've done over their careers. You're truly a horrible poster.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

He's won a title as the the focal point of his team

live off 10 year achievements

 

[Miggs]

Raptors have a better shot of knocking off the Cavs,then they do knocking off the Warriors...

 

[Biscayne]

And lose 4 of em

They won't have any excuses this year neither....

 

[intruder]

Well... Congrats to the Raptors and their fans.
You chumps know we would have taken you in 5 or 6 if we were at full strength with Bosh and WhiteSide but injuries are part of the game
Props to you all for grinding it out. Good luck in the next round

 

[O.G.B]

Why are you only using box score numbers , why are you leaving out assists and why are you leaving out shooting percentages with the proper attempts and most importantly why are you using career numbers - the argument is centered around what both players are capable of at this stage of their careers? Neither player is at their peak or prime, so why the fukk are using career #s?

It's about what they both can provide NOW/this season, now what they've done over their careers. You're truly a horrible poster.

You stated that Joe Johnson is/was the better player but the overall numbers show that's he actually not!





And you can't use the Kevin Martin vs Joe Johnson comparison based on the 2015/2016 season as I've explained numerous times dumb ass clown because Martin wasn't full time starter & didn't play a full regular season due to injuries (only 54 games/12 started & only one game started for the Spurs in the regular season & none for the post season) like Johnson did (81/82 games because of one game missed due to the Nets/Heat trade) & 13 games in the playoffs) while playing almost half the minutes Johnson did (18.8 minutes this season vs Johnson's 32.9 minutes)!

Yet, with all that being "said" Johnson only averaged 12.2 PPG this season while Martin averaged 9.3 PPG.


And just as I also predicted while you were completely wrong (again) that No Go Johnson wasn't going to help the Heat get any farther than they would have got without him.
And we'll certainly see how much the Heat think of Johnson's value if they re-sign him once more as a free agent or let him hit the road.

 

[Miggs]

Well... Congrats to the Raptors and their fans.
You chumps know we would have taken you in 5 or 6 if we were at full strength with Bosh and WhiteSide but injuries are part of the game
Props to you all for grinding it out. Good luck in the next round

NAH Raptors with Valanciunas end this series in 5 games....yall made it to 7 because of our injuries...

 

[Forlife44]

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You stated that Joe Johnson is/was the better player but the overall numbers show that's he actually not!

Those #s don't prove shyt besides some selective stats you took over their careers. You don't use career #s for players who're both past their primes and you don't use surface #s like that either - especially since Joe can create for himself and others and K-Mart can't.

And you can't use the Kevin Martin vs Joe Johnson comparison based on the 2015/2016 season as I've explained numerous times dumb ass clown because Martin wasn't full time starter & didn't play a full regular season due to injuries (only 54 games/12 started & only one game started for the Spurs in the regular season & none for the post season) like Johnson did (all 81 games & 13 games in the playoffs) while playing almost half the minutes Johnson did (18.8 minutes this season vs Johnson's 32.9 minutes)!

That's the only way you can compare them. K-Mart isn't capable of putting up his career highs anymore. How dumb are you? You have to go on what they're currently capable of, now what they did during their careers. Why does this need to be spelled out to you?

Joe can provide more production than K-Mart can at this stage of his career. All facts.

Yet, with all that being "said" Johnson only averaged 12.2 PPG this season while Martin averaged 9.3 PPG.

On better percentages and more assists - basically he generated more offense for his team in both scoring/passing and was more efficent while doing so. Sounds like the better player to me.

And just as I also predicted while you were completely wrong (again) that No Go Johnson wasn't going to help the Heat get any farther than they would have got without him.

You truly are stupid. Nobody ever said Johnson was going to be have that much of a difference - he's a role player after all.

And we'll certainly see how much the Heat think of Johnson's value if they re-sign him once more as a free agent or let him hit the road.

He'll still have value than K-Mart.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

that wrist lookin kinda limp though

 

[MikelArteta]

Raptors have a better shot of knocking off the Cavs,then they do knocking off the Warriors...

we even beat em without jonas and starting scola
lost to em once wihtout carroll starting scola
and beat em with carroll

 

[Fani Willis fan]

Well... Congrats to the Raptors and their fans.
You chumps know we would have taken you in 5 or 6 if we were at full strength with Bosh and WhiteSide but injuries are part of the game
Props to you all for grinding it out. Good luck in the next round

JV and DeRozan have been injured too. Foh with your weak ass excuses and be graceful