"Conspiracy theories" do not thrive because the masses are stupid; but because they are excluded

[thekingsmen]

Why being excluded from the decision-making and policy-making processes that affect us and are supposed to be for us... has been normalized?

Because policy making is about control of those groups who are excluded, not in support.

 

[keond]

The one thing about conspiracy theorist is that they can never be wrong. If you confront them with something to dispel the theory, they will dispute the source. Its a way for someone to be smart because they position themselves to always be right and the person questioning them to be "sheep"

Folk like Alex Jones will babble all day about gay frogs but will not admit white supremacy exist. If he does he will frame it as globalist elitist trying to keep Democrats on the plantation to protect the Deep State.........or some shyt like that

 

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[Booker T Garvey]

The one thing about conspiracy theorist is that they can never be wrong. If you confront them with something to dispel the theory, they will dispute the source. Its a way for someone to be smart because they position themselves to always be right and the person questioning them to be "sheep"

Folk like Alex Jones will babble all day about gay frogs but will not admit white supremacy exist. If he does he will frame it as globalist elitist trying to keep Democrats on the plantation to protect the Deep State.........or some shyt like that

Eh, on the flipside if you tell cats that "sell dope and shoot at nikkas all day!" hip hop is a wing of white supremacy too, they're ready to

 

[WaveMolecules]

Not saying your wrong but who was excluded from geography and science in elementary school? Grown men think earth is flat, have no understanding of medicine but think vaccines are evil, etc.

You trust to fly in an airplane because thousands of engineers dedicated their lives to assure you that they are safe. And they are. Until one falls out of the sky. Doesnt make flying any less safe.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

from knowledge, from participation in policy making, from all around intellectual discourse...

Random stream of thought, thinking about stuff like the 5G towers, the destruction of a covid-laboratory in Ivory Coast, the WHO, etc...

The blossoming of conspiracy theories does not come solely from people's so called "stupidity", but rather the lack of transparency of the intellectual, political and economic institutions, as well as the lack of respect from these institutions towards people's agency.

The commodification of knowledge, when it is not downright privatized, disallow citizens from having access to much of the information that is supposedly available. My school scholarship allows me (when the system wants to work) to access some scholars' articles on platforms with which my institution got partnerships, while the citizens who are not enrolled in this kind of institutions are barred from reading anything but the abstracts.

This lack of access, as well as the overall lack of openness of the scientific world towards the neophyte, pushes him into a narrow space of information and action where he is at the mercy of the vulgarization organizations and what they want him to know or talk about.
Not only does the neophyte can't access all of the discourse taking place, looking at this large world through the small window designed for him, he can't participate in it easily; there is no platform dedicated to allow exchange between the different scientific kingdoms and the lambdas, where both groups could ask questions, question motives, or even be consulted.


This barring is even more flagrant when it comes to politics, and it often turns into downright secrecy. The lack of transparency of the public institutions in so called democracies is just crazy. Rules institute a certain degree of sharing, but it is not only low, it is met with reluctance and minimal effort. The massive shadows cast upon most of our governments actions under the guise of bureaucracy, geopolitical and defense interests, hide so much of the processes and what is really going on that we consider ourselves lucky as well as not surprised when the occasional whistleblower unravels a part of it. And closed doors in a house always foster suspicion.

Why is there such a thing as a whistleblower in a democratic society? Because our society is not transparent, and becomes more opaque the higher we scale it.

The worst thing might be that there is not even close to an attempt to restore trust in the institutions that supposedly act on our behalf. It is the status quo.

The lack of agency of the people over their own lives, resulting from the stuffed bureaucracy of representative democracy certainly doesn't help.

The lack of accountability from these institutions, who can lie, cheat, fail, destroy, kill and destabilize without repercussions certainly doesn't help (was the CIA trialed for its actions in the cold war? Legitimate question).


And what happens when those institutions, supposedly acting on our behalf, supposedly open, can move around without being bound to any expectation of transparency, accountability, but also affect the ways of life of the many without the many being able to do, or even know about it?


More and more distrust, and more and more "conspiracy theories".

This is basically common sense...the COVID conspiracy theories are being fueled by Fauci's repeated waffling on information

and youtube and the media's blatant censoring of opposing viewpoints on the topic even from actual doctors.

it's gonna make people want to know what they're hiding.

 

[thekingsmen]

The one thing about conspiracy theorist is that they can never be wrong. If you confront them with something to dispel the theory, they will dispute the source. Its a way for someone to be smart because they position themselves to always be right and the person questioning them to be "sheep"

Folk like Alex Jones will babble all day about gay frogs but will not admit white supremacy exist. If he does he will frame it as globalist elitist trying to keep Democrats on the plantation to protect the Deep State.........or some shyt like that

1. Never Wrong? No one is 100% right....ever. However the dismissal of certain theories is based off bias and lack of knowledge outside of what has already been given to you.
2. Alex Jones is controlled opposition and always has been but why are you so focused on him instead of the information.
3. Both sides have protected the Deep State....including the public who assume they know what's going on based off the tv.

 

[thekingsmen]

Not saying your wrong but who was excluded from geography and science in elementary school? Grown men think earth is flat, have no understanding of medicine but think vaccines are evil, etc.

You trust to fly in an airplane because thousands of engineers dedicated their lives to assure you that they are safe. And they are. Until one falls out of the sky. Doesnt make flying any less safe.

Your correlation between flat earth and medicine is beyond irrelevant.

 

[keond]

1. Never Wrong? No one is 100% right....ever. However the dismissal of certain theories is based off bias and lack of knowledge outside of what has already been given to you.
2. Alex Jones is controlled opposition and always has been but why are you so focused on him instead of the information.
3. Both sides have protected the Deep State....including the public who assume they know what's going on based off the tv.

Damn breh, you triggered i wasn't even @'ing you. I brought up Alex Jones because he is the most well known conspiracy nut out there.

My point still stands. Conspiracy theorist can always position themselves to never admit to being wrong by the very nature of questioning sources, facts, and motives.

 

[Tryna Makit]

Conspiracy theories thrive......because of past conspiracies being busted open...

A conspiracy theorist mind starts in hindsight....

"Well if those a$$holes did this and got away with it before...they can do it again! And they will/are!"


This country was founded on a conspiracy lol

A bunch of privileged cacs got together and "conspired" against their British paymsters...then "Conspired" and Convened in private to figure out to keep it that way.

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

Dapped the op for the intellectual discourse and somewhat refreshing topic. I see here he's coming from and makes solid points. And I agree that conspiracy theories created by the average joe would be less prevalent if certain organizations and governments were a bit more transparent.

However this doesn't address:

1. The conspiracies created purposely to serve an agenda.

2. Conspiracies born of severe ignorance or mental illness.

The pizzagate type stuff is a perfect example of 1st. People mostly belonging to one side of the political spectrum politicized sex trafficking to attack polititians and celebs on the other end of the spectrum (for the most part)

A good example of the 2nd is rhe general conspiracy that everyone that's significantly more successful than one's self is a baby killing, bi-sexual satanist who got everything they have from the occult.

Transparency alone isn't enough.

 

[thekingsmen]

Damn breh, you triggered i wasn't even @'ing you. I brought up Alex Jones because he is the most well known conspiracy nut out there.

My point still stands. Conspiracy theorist can always position themselves to never admit to being wrong by the very nature of questioning sources, facts, and motives.

I wasn't triggered..i responded to your posts. I did it in a respectable manner without anything being blamed on you.

 

[Complexion]

"Reality" is the ultimate conspiracy theory as its founded on the sketchiest of information from questionable sources filtered through a flawed inductive device filled with generations of personal biases and countless appeals to authority. And yet its a construct unhappily accepted by the vast majority around the globe apart from the poet, madman and mystic who sense a different realm and try - with the medium at hand - to convey their message.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Your correlation between flat earth and medicine is beyond irrelevant.

In your opinion.


Even still it doesn't make it less valid.

 

[Savvir]

from knowledge, from participation in policy making, from all around intellectual discourse...



The blossoming of conspiracy theories does not come solely from people's so called "stupidity", but rather the lack of transparency of the intellectual, political and economic institutions,

the internet gives you direct insight into everything you're speaking on...

the issue is people being able to discern fact from fiction....