Conspiracy Theories Begin: Jay Z's mistress gave birth to a baby in 2011 and died ... Lyrics in a Beyonce song allude to murder

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Even with you denouncing the fukkery you still kind of did the same thing lol

Why is likely he had to do something to get where he at?

We literally can see how he got where he at

He sold alot of records
Influenced the culture in many forms
Invested in great businesses
Stayed out of trouble post 1999
Imo he is the first rapper that took being the number 1 guy serious.

No one say he stole from them
No one said he owed the money
I'm not even acting like it's some horrible shyt

Maybe he cut someone out, fired people to cut costs, screwed over low level workers etc. Sucks but happens all of the time. That's the system being the system, fiduciary responsibilities and all that...Not every artist at the Roc felt the love from him, same with his stint at Def Jam...

I think you still see my point though - that stuff is largely irrelevant to this conversation
 

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He admits what he did wrong. He sold drugs to his community for $. That $ was the basis for his career starting, the image he loves to portray and the ideals he constantly spouts (I'm a hustler) which signals to all "I will do wrong for $."
People dont care about his past lol

When people say he a snake they talk about stuff while he was a rapper. They say since a billionaire he did shady things to get his success

But no one posts actual shady shyt. He separated from Dame is the only thing people use to prove that point.
 

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I'm not even acting like it's some horrible shyt

Maybe he cut someone out, fired people to cut costs, screwed over low level workers etc. Sucks but happens all of the time. That's the system being the system, fiduciary responsibilities and all that...Not every artist at the Roc felt the love from him, same with his stint at Def Jam...

I think you still see my point though - that stuff is largely irrelevant to this conversation
But none of that happened though.

No one has ever came out and said he did them dirty.

No one has ever showed me proof of him fukking someone over.
 

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People dont care about his past lol

When people say he a snake they talk about stuff while he was a rapper. They say since a billionaire he did shady things to get his success

But no one posts actual shady shyt. He separated from Dame is the only thing people use to prove that point.
If no one cares about his drug dealer past why does he bring it up so much?
He snaked Colin Kapernick, slept with Carmen for weird stalker reasons and stabbed Un.
^All shady shyt he did to try and get ahead.
 

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If no one cares about his drug dealer past why does he bring it up so much?
He snaked Colin Kapernick, slept with Carmen for weird stalker reasons and stabbed Un.
^All shady shyt he did to try and get ahead.
1. No one cares in regards to his career now. U talking shyt damn near 40 years ago
2. Jay dont owe Kap nothing
3. He fukked a woman. So

Nothing u listed helped him get ahead of nothing
 

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No one said he perfect lol. I just need actual proof of something.
I'll pull the HR files at Def Jam/Rocafella and get back to you lol

Meanwhile I'll keep believing that billionaires are ruthless by definition, because they are. Doesn't mean they're "evil" or some shyt tho, just greedy
 

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1. No one cares in regards to his career now. U talking shyt damn near 40 years ago
2. Jay dont owe Kap nothing
3. He fukked a woman. So

Nothing u listed helped him get ahead of nothing
They do care, that's why he brings it up a lot. It conjures ideas of him being a bad ass, edgy, cool person which helps sell records.
He owed the movement he started something, especially when it was in full swing he is running around in his jersey acting like he's down for the cause.
Fukkin' a woman isn't shady but the why and how he tried to use that fact later was indeed shady.

I obviously disagree. lol
 

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I'll pull the HR files at Def Jam/Rocafella and get back to you lol

Meanwhile I'll keep believing that billionaires are ruthless by definition, because they are. Doesn't mean they're "evil" or some shyt tho, just greedy
We sell how he got the bulk of his $

He sold his share in rocawear 200 million in cash

He bought champagne rapped about it. Blew it up. Sold half for hundreds of millions


Same with dusse

He bought Tidal sold most of it
^

Thats where most of his money came from

He never needed to be ruthless to achieve his wealth. He was not competing with anyone. His peers were so far behind. Dude had his own lane
 

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shyt so is running a red light lol.

I hear shady shyt I’m thinking backstabbing ect. Not this person wronged me and I fukked him up lol
Was stabbing him a level headed response to getting bootlegged? I don't think so, he went too far and could have killed him. Yes, endangering people's lives is shady.
 
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