Conservative group behind Aff. Action lawsuit is now going after BW targeted VC fund/* program ended in settlement

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We've got nearly a century worth of post-Civil Rights Bill anti-black legislation and local ordinances, none of which say "black people are not allowed to do xyz." And yet the legislation and ordinances have been used to target black people in very specific ways because the people enforcing them simply target black people. Pretty effective. Yet instead of taking a note from that, we constantly doing dumb shyt that is easy to target via the courts.

Want to fund black businesses as a private corporation or business? Start a fund, put a black person in charge, and make sure 80% of the money goes to black businesses. Hell, more than 80%. But of course that means you can't run ads seeking black customers by pointing out how much you support black businesses. This is advertising. It's not change, it's not effective.

The funny thing is that democrats understand this when it comes to...HUD. There's always some black person in charge of HUD, funneling money to some poor black people. Yet there's never a black Secretary of...Agriculture. Biden tried to pass a bill to get black farmers paid, after decades of neglect, not getting loans, not getting loans forgiven, etc. White farmers sued claiming discrimination and it's still hung up in court. It'll likely NEVER come to pass. You know how you fix that? By appointing people at the USDA who are there to specifically push loans, forgiveness etc through for black farmers. Doesn't mean rejecting white farmers in the process. You need to help some white farmers at the same time...but all you do is tilt the percentages our way. Instead of 80-20 white farmers getting help compared to black farmers, you reverse it. Hell you could do 70-30 if you're scared.

The funny thing is that if you did exactly what I said and started legitimately helping black people, folks on the Coli would be mad because the bill isn't named "The Help Black People Bill That Only Helps Black People."
 

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We've got nearly a century worth of post-Civil Rights Bill anti-black legislation and local ordinances, none of which say "black people are not allowed to do xyz." And yet the legislation and ordinances have been used to target black people in very specific ways because the people enforcing them simply target black people. Pretty effective. Yet instead of taking a note from that, we constantly doing dumb shyt that is easy to target via the courts.

Want to fund black businesses as a private corporation or business? Start a fund, put a black person in charge, and make sure 80% of the money goes to black businesses. Hell, more than 80%. But of course that means you can't run ads seeking black customers by pointing out how much you support black businesses. This is advertising. It's not change, it's not effective.

The funny thing is that democrats understand this when it comes to...HUD. There's always some black person in charge of HUD, funneling money to some poor black people. Yet there's never a black Secretary of...Agriculture. Biden tried to pass a bill to get black farmers paid, after decades of neglect, not getting loans, not getting loans forgiven, etc. White farmers sued claiming discrimination and it's still hung up in court. It'll likely NEVER come to pass. You know how you fix that? By appointing people at the USDA who are there to specifically push loans, forgiveness etc through for black farmers. Doesn't mean rejecting white farmers in the process. You need to help some white farmers at the same time...but all you do is tilt the percentages our way. Instead of 80-20 white farmers getting help compared to black farmers, you reverse it. Hell you could do 70-30 if you're scared.

The funny thing is that if you did exactly what I said and started legitimately helping black people, folks on the Coli would be mad because the bill isn't named "The Help Black People Bill That Only Helps Black People."
basically black people have to stop doing this "lets do public panels and be seen being successful" bullshyt.

They are more addicted to this image of success than the quiet slow grind. This addiction to advertising is something you dont see other groups doing. Why even announce the fund publicly?
 

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I keep telling you the path forward and you keep not listening.

Reparations has to be under the table funding to local initiatives. Black people individually are not getting a check. the sooner you wake up you can move on and settle things on more favorable terms.

Look. She's a beautiful woman. She wants to be out and be seen at events etc.

But this is how the bag got blown. They were an easy target and we know how this will end.

 

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I’m glad they won their case. These conservative whites are attacking from all angles so black groups and companies have to be prepared with legal funding.

The fund was never for just black women, and the language stated that. It was for “people of color”, white is a color last time I checked :sas1:. Also, everyone was allowed to apply for a grant. If they chose not to based on the language, that’s on the individual.

Being a charitable group (501c) you are protected under the First Amendment to promote as you see fit. If they want to be safe, I believe they can follow the route @Piff Perkins suggested and make the language explicitly all inclusive and only give to majority black folks.
 

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I’m glad they won their case. These conservative whites are attacking from all angles so black groups and companies have to be prepared with legal funding.

The fund was never for just black women, and the language stated that. It was for “people of color”, white is a color last time I checked :sas1:. Also, everyone was allowed to apply for a grant. If they chose not to based on the language, that’s on the individual.

Being a charitable group (501c) you are protected under the First Amendment to promote as you see fit. If they want to be safe, I believe they can follow the route @Piff Perkins suggested and make the language explicitly all inclusive and only give to majority black folks.
they didn't win. pay attention. a court just halted the program.
 

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It’s a victory. A judge refused to implement an injunction, and now there’s legal precedent established as to why the lawsuit was BS to begin with.
Did you read the news in the last 24 hours? a 3 judge panel in a 2-to-1 decision allowed the HALT on funding to take place, effectively stopping the black women VC fund from operating.
 

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It’s a victory. A judge refused to implement an injunction, and now there’s legal precedent established as to why the lawsuit was BS to begin with.

They overturned the Black judges initial ruling.

They loss for now.


Later Tuesday, the Alliance filed an emergency motion with the 11th Circuit and a three-judge panel overturned Thrash’s ruling. Two judges sided with the Alliance, saying “the plaintiffs have established an irreparable injury,” calling the grant program “racially exclusionary.” One judge dissented, siding with Fearless.
 
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