Comic Avengers is one of the most careless teams in existence

[Primetime]

The sliding timescale that Marvel uses is the best compromise. It's around 4-5 years to 1 real year, so Peter is about 30-ish now...but he's also a modern 30, rather than a 30 year old of 20 years ago. Plus, he was married for decades, even though he never had a kid. But they're all aging, and most characters are natural progression. Hell, he was only in HS for like 3 years real time, but for some reason, everyone seems to envision him as a teen. They're never gonna kill off most characters permanently, not their cashcows. That's not the American model, nor would they want to completely age out their target demo. Plus, most of their younger newer characters do not take off, so who's left?

The MCU has it's own problem in that their main/original cast are pushing 50, yet they still want to make movies. They haven't been successful with their younger counterparts either, and Tom Holland pushing 30. All roads lead to the same place in resetting or recasting, hoping the new actors take off. Which for one generation, they would but for the older prior (louder) fans, they more than likely won't.

Shiiiiiid, Best compromise for what? The comic industry wouldn't collapse if the 616 ended or rebooted; it's already a convoluted shyt-fest. American society wouldn't collapse. They just stubbornly sticking to a worn out "tradition" to appease who? some 70 year olds approaching their death bed?

And saying Peter is in his 30s is cap lol. Or rather, he's at best in his late 20s and that depends on the story arc.

He'll be right back to sounding like an immature mid-20 year old in the next arc or next major event... and that's the point; not the numeric age which they'll never give us, but that they had a choice 20 years ago to finally evolve the character in a way that couldn't be walked back but made a business decision. And mind you, i'm indifferent to whether they want to give him a kid or make him a family man from a creative standpoint. But obviously when every decision and every major event fallout is walked-back because you gotta keep things status quo for the next 30 years... the rationale behind it is played out imo.

And i said 08-19 MCU. Not what they currently have on life support.

 

[Jmare007]

The first time I read the Ms Marvel stuff I was shyt was so fukked up

 

[Jmare007]

The sliding timescale that Marvel uses is the best compromise. It's around 4-5 years to 1 real year, so Peter is about 30-ish now...but he's also a modern 30, rather than a 30 year old of 20 years ago. Plus, he was married for decades, even though he never had a kid. But they're all aging, and most characters are natural progression. Hell, he was only in HS for like 3 years real time, but for some reason, everyone seems to envision him as a teen. They're never gonna kill off most characters permanently, not their cashcows. That's not the American model, nor would they want to completely age out their target demo. Plus, most of their younger newer characters do not take off, so who's left?

The MCU has it's own problem in that their main/original cast are pushing 50, yet they still want to make movies. They haven't been successful with their younger counterparts either, and Tom Holland pushing 30. All roads lead to the same place in resetting or recasting, hoping the new actors take off. Which for one generation, they would but for the older prior (louder) fans, they more than likely won't.

Shiiiiiid, Best compromise for what? The comic industry wouldn't collapse if the 616 ended or rebooted; it's already a convoluted shyt-fest. American society wouldn't collapse. They just stubbornly sticking to a worn out "tradition" to appease who? some 70 year olds approaching their death bed?

And saying Peter is in his 30s is cap lol. Or rather, he's at best in his late 20s and that depends on the story arc.

He'll be right back to sounding like an immature mid-20 year old in the next arc or next major event... and that's the point; not the numeric age which they'll never give us, but that they had a choice 20 years ago to finally evolve the character in a way that couldn't walk but made a business decision. And mind you, i'm indifferent to whether they want to give him a kid or make him a family man from a creative standpoint. But obviously when every decision and every major event fallout is walked-back because you gotta keep things status quo for the next 30 years... the rationale behind it is played out imo.

And i said 08-19 MCU. Not what they currently have on life support.

I think the last 16 months of Spider Man showed that Marvel is just lazy and complacent with 616.

Amazing Spider Man by Zeb Wells was hated and panned by basically everyone and it still sold like crazy just because it was Spidey. Then Hickman comes along with Ultimate Spider Man with a mature Peter that has a family and it becomes Marvel's best seller, outdrawing ASM. Shortly thereafter Wells is gone, lol.

If old school, gate keeping comic book readers still buy shyt they hate, then why not go for it and make 616 progress and let the eternal loop of characters in their 20's and 30's be the alternate universe stuff? When X-Men did a 180° with Hickman it sold like crazy, and it kept selling great after he left....and then they decided to reboot and it all went to shyt for no reason lmao.

I think the biggest issue is that people in charge are the biggest gate keepers because they are the neckbeards in their 50's that don't really want their versions of the characters to truly change "in canon/continuity". It's not really about what will sell or not, because at the end of the day, when a book is really good it's gonna sell 9 out of 10 times (unless it gets promoted in a stupid way).

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I think the last 16 months of Spider Man showed that Marvel is just lazy and complacent with 616.

Amazing Spider Man by Zeb Wells was hated and panned by basically everyone and it still sold like crazy just because it was Spidey. Then Hickman comes along with Ultimate Spider Man with a mature Peter that has a family and it becomes Marvel's best seller, outdrawing ASM. Shortly thereafter Wells is gone, lol.

If old school, gate keeper, comic book readers still buy shyt they hate. Then why not go for it and make 616 progress and let the eternal loop of characters in the 20's and 30's be the alternate universe stuff? When X-Men did a 180° with Hickman it sold like crazy, and it kept selling great after he left....and then they decided to reboot and it all went to shyt for no reason lmao.

I think the biggest issue is that people in charge are the biggest gate keepers because they are the neckbeards in their 50's that don't really want their versions of the characters to truly change "in canon/continuity". It's not really about what will sell or not, because at the end of the day, when a book is really good it's gonna sell 9 out of 10 times (unless it gets promoted in a stupid way).

It's wild too because it's already changed

Average writer isn't the same quality as Kurt Busiek or Greg Rucka

They had no name writers on X-Men books back in the day that were leagues better than what aere getting now

Jed Mckay and Donny Cates I'm looking at you

They are trash