Comic Avengers is one of the most careless teams in existence

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Agatha Harkness erased Wanda's memory of her kids, and then The Wasp casually brings it up and Wanda goes crazy.

They let Ms.Marvel go off to get raped by her son



Im reading older comics tho and I like it

Just finished Disassembled and Bendis was always a hack
 

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Agatha Harkness erased Wanda's memory of her kids, and then The Wasp casually brings it up and Wanda goes crazy.

They let Ms.Marvel go off to get raped by her son



Im reading older comics tho and I like it

Just finished Disassembled and Bendis was always a hack

Certain avengers are garbage people. Mainly Tony and janet
 

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They really deadass just be doing shyt

When Quiksilver left Krystal for cheating on him they shamed him into taking her back cuz she was mad he left :dead:
 
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Agatha Harkness erased Wanda's memory of her kids, and then The Wasp casually brings it up and Wanda goes crazy.

They let Ms.Marvel go off to get raped by her son



Im reading older comics tho and I like it

Just finished Disassembled and Bendis was always a hack
Bendis era avengers were SUPREME fukk ups and liabilities from disassembled (house of m, a fukkin reality altering consequence), civil war, secret invasion, they fukked up everything imaginable.

They an avenger God who immediately killed ankther avenger...nobody really seemed to care. Wtf
 
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It's hard to get into the mainline shyt because they are always restarting the fukking universes and shyt. Or having these soft reboots.

You're better off reading one shots or alternate timeline stories that have nothing to do with the main shyt
 

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What has Janet done?
she hasnt taken responsibility for taking advantage of and marrying a mentally ill man, then after said man goes to prison, you sleep around with tony stark. being a gossipy busybody that helped start avengers disassembled. poisoning hanks daughter to him
Janet Van Dyne is like the female Reed Richards; they are literally only 'good guys' as a technicality. That ho issues got issues :mjlol:
reed isnt that bad, his major crime is that he has smartest man in the room energy so he usually acts without considering other people.
 

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It's hard to get into the mainline shyt because they are always restarting the fukking universes and shyt. Or having these soft reboots.

You're better off reading one shots or alternate timeline stories that have nothing to do with the main shyt
That’s just (big 2) comics in general unfortunately

Sliding scale ‘continuity’ is a flawed concept that’s plagued Marvel for the past couple decades. It was the late 90s/early 2000s when they decided definitively that yea we’re not gonna slow age the golden goose (Spidey) anymore; no kids, no family, and later no marriage. We saw the trickle down effect where a buncha shyt happens/has happened to the Avengers, X-Men and F4 that should lead to certain characters being aged out, retired, or dead for good (see: Wanda/House of M; or Hulk/WWH) but that’s just not the business model like it is for manga. Instead everyone is brought back and all cataclysmic events are swept under the rug with vague references at best.. bc Peter still needs to be 25 years old 30 years from now doing the same shyt when we’re all geriatric.

It’s why the 08-19 MCU despite its flaws and source material inaccuracies was the best storytelling, it had a definite beginning middle and end.
 

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They let Ms.Marvel go off to get raped by her son
I remember Claremont had to step in to fix that by having Carol call out all the Avengers for allowing that in the first place and then brought her into the X books for a minute so no one else would fukk with her again (he wrote the Ms Marvel solo book, so he felt some kind of way when other writers did that bullshyt in the Avengers title)
 

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That’s just (big 2) comics in general unfortunately

Sliding scale ‘continuity’ is a flawed concept that’s plagued Marvel for the past couple decades. It was the late 90s/early 2000s when they decided definitively that yea we’re not gonna slow age the golden goose (Spidey) anymore; no kids, no family, and later no marriage. We saw the trickle down effect where a buncha shyt happens/has happened to the Avengers, X-Men and F4 that should lead to certain characters being aged out, retired, or dead for good (see: Wanda/House of M; or Hulk/WWH) but that’s just not the business model like it is for manga. Instead everyone is brought back and all cataclysmic events are swept under the rug with vague references at best.. bc Peter still needs to be 25 years old 30 years from now doing the same shyt when we’re all geriatric.

It’s why the 08-19 MCU despite its flaws and source material inaccuracies was the best storytelling, it had a definite beginning middle and end.

The sliding timescale that Marvel uses is the best compromise. It's around 4-5 years to 1 real year, so Peter is about 30-ish now...but he's also a modern 30, rather than a 30 year old of 20 years ago. Plus, he was married for decades, even though he never had a kid. But they're all aging, and most characters are natural progression. Hell, he was only in HS for like 3 years real time, but for some reason, everyone seems to envision him as a teen. They're never gonna kill off most characters permanently, not their cashcows. That's not the American model, nor would they want to completely age out their target demo. Plus, most of their younger newer characters do not take off, so who's left?

The MCU has it's own problem in that their main/original cast are pushing 50, yet they still want to make movies. They haven't been successful with their younger counterparts either, and Tom Holland pushing 30. All roads lead to the same place in resetting or recasting, hoping the new actors take off. Which for one generation, they would but for the older prior (louder) fans, they more than likely won't.
 

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"Ms. Marvel is kidnapped by a character named Marcus (the apparent son of Avengers foe Immortus) and taken to an alternate dimension, where she is raped by Marcus and impregnated. She gives birth on Earth to a child that rapidly ages into another version of Marcus, who is ultimately unable to remain on Earth after Hawkeye mistakenly damages his machine and takes Ms. Marvel back to the alternate dimension with no opposition from the Avengers, who perceive Ms. Marvel and Marcus to have fallen in love."
 
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