College degree is the new HS dipolma.
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@ being an apprentice for over 5 years...
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the real problem is that the burden of job training has been shifted onto the individual instead of either the employer or the government.
it used to be that companies had a training program, or they outsourced it to a training firm. then, the government started paying for it through high school vocational courses or communitiy skill centers in urban areas. now they just want you to take out massive loans and guess which degree will work best for you.
it used to be that companies had a training program, or they outsourced it to a training firm. then, the government started paying for it through high school vocational courses or communitiy skill centers in urban areas. now they just want you to take out massive loans and guess which degree will work best for you.
At the national level yes. At the local level alot of them went to state schools. But i get your point.
@ all the job outsourcing....
Somehow I gotta blame the rethugs, especially if this doesn't go through:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/s...an-brain.html?pagewanted=2&pagewanted=all&_r=
It's no secret that biologist, chemist and physicist are struggling to some degree. I hear sh*t all the time...
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after reading this article, I can see why this cat, James Holmes went off:
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Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
I have an MBA in healthcare management.
Finance major but I agree with this dude. The fact of the matter is Engineers are well revered no matter what. If not for being good at math and what not, at the very least they are valued because they're creative, can handle tough work loads (as shown by university schedules) and have the ability to apply knowledge to real life shyt.'
Many of the worlds CEO's and even Financiers started off as Engineers. And many were Accountants or Economics majors too.
Alan Mullaly and Tim Cook for instance. Engineers dominate for sure. That being said, it doesnt mean STEM = automatic fortune 500 job. Majority of STEM's are stuck in the middle class too.
it depends which STEM it is. engineering or compsci you can still get a decent job 40-60k out of undergrad quite easily.
but bio or chem
unless you can get into med school (which isnt easy) you gonna be stuck doing research assistant crap at your college which dont pay much better than retail. at that point a bio or chem major isnt much better off than liberal artsaccounting is still the safest route out there imo
Suicide King
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but bio or chem
liberal arts = general education degree
bio or chem or psychology = general education degree
By their mere nature you gonna have to get more training or specialization.
This pretty sad, because I could have made $10 when I was in HS. You can't possibly tell me that's good money with a straight face
sh*t just got real in here...
Typical Coli poster just elevated a status...
Also too many cats in here unfairly sh*t on Art degrees. There's a lot of dope innovation that can come out of possessing an art degree. I even posted this video yesterday as well:
FRANCE 24 Tech 24 - 02/18/2013 TECH 24 - YouTube
People should study what they want. I just feel that individuals of hispanic or AA descent, who want to go to school debt-free and be able to acquire a reasonable job, post college should go into engineering.
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Just by the way some of the people in this thread write I can tell that they are not in college or anywhere close to obtaining a degree but this is the-coli so I will let you cook.
Anyway, about 33% of the population will have a bachelors degree. That is still far less that those earning a high school diploma. Those who do not go to college at all are not going to find shyt out there unless they are lucky and someone hooks them up.
Anyway, about 33% of the population will have a bachelors degree. That is still far less that those earning a high school diploma. Those who do not go to college at all are not going to find shyt out there unless they are lucky and someone hooks them up.
The typical Coli poster: makes over six figures a year and has an engineering or IT degree / certification.
But nobody ever mentions anything about being their own boss and whatnot...
shots fired?
I type nothing like how I write or speak. That'd be way too time consuming. I honestly don't even know how some cat write out paragraphs and sh*t...
The more I write the more grammatical mistakes occur.
accounting is still the safest route out there imo
As an old man on here, I can attest to this.
I spent 6 months working at a for profit college in 2002, and let me tell you....
They could NEVER fill the Associate Degree Accounting classes and they had us trying like Crazy to put people there.
The local businesses who promised to hire people BEFORE THEY EVEN GRADUATED WITH ASSOCIATE DEGREES were all looking for base level accountants, and could never get enough.
You can live the middle class life from here to eternity if you can handle being an accountant.
VerbalIntercourse
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My friend is going school to be a RadTech. 80k starting and she won't have any BA.
She is a great writer and actually sells plays to local theater groups, but she realizes that is her hobby. I don't understand why liberal arts people can't just have hobbies?
I love music and I have all kinds of musical equipment and I write music for independent films. I have never taken one class in music. It's just a hobby, and something that I personally enjoy. I would never try to make a living at it because in order to do so, you have to be the Ultimate best of the best.
That's what people don't understand.
I don't have to be the top 1% of CPAs to make decent living. You don't have to be the most accomplished engineer to make 200k a year.
But in order to make 100K+ (even 50k+) as an artist, actor writer, poet, musician, or educator, you have to be in the .000001% of ability. You have to be the on the God level. Not just talent in your trade, you also have to be good-looking, have the gift of gab, and have reasonably strong will. Why even try?
She is a great writer and actually sells plays to local theater groups, but she realizes that is her hobby. I don't understand why liberal arts people can't just have hobbies?
I love music and I have all kinds of musical equipment and I write music for independent films. I have never taken one class in music. It's just a hobby, and something that I personally enjoy. I would never try to make a living at it because in order to do so, you have to be the Ultimate best of the best.
That's what people don't understand.
I don't have to be the top 1% of CPAs to make decent living. You don't have to be the most accomplished engineer to make 200k a year.
But in order to make 100K+ (even 50k+) as an artist, actor writer, poet, musician, or educator, you have to be in the .000001% of ability. You have to be the on the God level. Not just talent in your trade, you also have to be good-looking, have the gift of gab, and have reasonably strong will. Why even try?
The typical Coli poster: makes over six figures a year and has an engineering or IT degree / certification.
But nobody ever mentions anything about being their own boss and whatnot...
shots fired?
I type nothing like how I write or speak. That'd be way too time consuming. I honestly don't even know how some cat write out paragraphs and sh*t...
The more I write the more grammatical mistakes occur.
I can't speak for anyone here but getting a degree was the worst decision I ever made. I only took it because I 'get' chemistry and math and also to please my folks...
As for what I do, I've covered this numerous times....check this thread
I guess I am "typical" coli poster but most of them ain't about that life ...I'm losing outchea
Got 1 block of Celsion (CLSN) stock and watching it tank from 8 to 1 dollar per share is noooooooooooo fun