Coli Pro Abortion members. What are your thoughts on Margaret Sanger?

[acri1]

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html

Fallacy: Guilt By Association


Also Known as: Bad Company Fallacy, Company that You Keep Fallacy

Description of Guilt By Association
Guilt by Association is a fallacy in which a person rejects a claim simply because it is pointed out that people she dislikes accept the claim. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

1. It is pointed out that people person A does not like accept claim P.
2. Therefore P is false

It is clear that sort of "reasoning" is fallacious. For example the following is obviously a case of poor "reasoning": "You think that 1+1=2. But, Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Joseph Stalin, and Ted Bundy all believed that 1+1=2. So, you shouldn't believe it."

The fallacy draws its power from the fact that people do not like to be associated with people they dislike. Hence, if it is shown that a person shares a belief with people he dislikes he might be influenced into rejecting that belief. In such cases the person will be rejecting the claim based on how he thinks or feels about the people who hold it and because he does not want to be associated with such people.

Of course, the fact that someone does not want to be associated with people she dislikes does not justify the rejection of any claim. For example, most wicked and terrible people accept that the earth revolves around the sun and that lead is heavier than helium. No sane person would reject these claims simply because this would put them in the company of people they dislike (or even hate).

Examples of Guilt By Association

1. Will and Kiteena are arguing over socialism. Kiteena is a pacifist and hates violence and violent people.
   Kiteena: "I think that the United States should continue to adopt socialist programs. For example, I think that the government should take control of vital industries."
   Will: "So, you are for state ownership of industry."
   Kiteena: "Certainly. It is a great idea and will help make the world a less violent place."
   Will: "Well, you know Stalin also endorsed state ownership on industry. At last count he wiped out millions of his own people. Pol Pot of Cambodia was also for state ownership of industry. He also killed millions of his own people. The leadership of China is for state owned industry. They killed their own people in that square. So, are you still for state ownership of industry?"
   Kiteena: "Oh, no! I don't want to be associated with those butchers!"
   
   
2. Jen and Sandy are discussing the topic of welfare. Jen is fairly conservative politically but she has been an active opponent of racism. Sandy is extremely liberal politically.
   Jen: "I was reading over some private studies of welfare and I think it would be better to have people work for their welfare. For example, people could pick up trash, put up signs, and maybe even do skilled labor that they are qualified for. This would probably make people feel better about themselves and it would get more out of our tax money."
   Sandy: "I see. So, you want to have the poor people out on the streets picking up trash for their checks? Well, you know that is exactly the position David Count endorses."
   Jen: "Who is he?"
   Sandy: "I'm surprised you don't know him, seeing how alike you two are. He was a Grand Mooky Wizard for the Aryan Pure White League and is well known for his hatred of blacks and other minorities. With your views, you'd fit right in to his little racist club."
   Jen: "So, I should reject my view just because I share it with some racist?"
   Sandy: "Of course."
   
   
3. Libard and Ferris are discussing who they are going to vote for as the next department chair in the philosophy department. Libard is a radical feminist and she despises Wayne and Bill, who are two sexist professors in the department.
   Ferris: "So, who are you going to vote for?"
   Libard: "Well, I was thinking about voting for Jane, since she is a woman and there has never been a woman chair here. But, I think that Steve will do an excellent job. He has a lot of clout in the university and he is a decent person."
   Ferris: "You know, Wayne and Bill are supporting him. They really like the idea of having Steve as the new chair. I never thought I'd see you and those two pigs on the same side."
   Libard: "Well, maybe it is time that we have a woman as chair."
   

 

[Blackking]

I think pro-abortion is the wrong term to use. I don't think very many people are walking around advocating that as their platform.

define many...

because many are pro abortion... in the sense that it's their platform... campaign for it, defend it, talk about it, encourage it..... some even think of it as a solution to single parent homes, etc...

 

[Blackking]

yes

not a baby til it takes its first breath imo, although ill give it to u that late abortions are fukked up

i guess baby who a r born with underdeveloped lungs aren't alive or babies either.??

In the womb babies lungs just aren't fully developed, but they do practice and go through the motions of breathing. Thats how they develop the lungs.

If it's not alive then why would it need oxygen and nutrition? How would drugs and alcohol affect it?

How is something with a heartbeat and developing sleep patterns not alive?

Most of the things that make a person alive happen long before what we consider 'late term'. The time to prevent unwanted pregnancy is before the baby starts growing.

 

[the cac mamba]

i guess baby who a r born with underdeveloped lungs aren't alive or babies either.??

In the womb babies lungs just aren't fully developed, but they do practice and go through the motions of breathing. Thats how they develop the lungs.

If it's not alive then why would it need oxygen and nutrition? How would drugs and alcohol affect it?

How is something with a heartbeat and developing sleep patterns not alive?

Most of the things that make a person alive happen long before what we consider 'late term'. The time to prevent unwanted pregnancy is before the baby starts growing.

the thing is your right

im not gonna act like my opinion is an honorable one. its just realistic

 

[Chris.B]

think about all the blacks who have been aborted....we would have the parties on our dikk but no you would rather engage in demonic filth.

Abortion is EVIL

 

[Blackking]

the thing is your right

im not gonna act like my opinion is an honorable one. its just realistic

i agree with it being a right, not like I haven't participated in the sport of it..... just saying sometimes liberals like to put a nice face on grimy opinions.

Truthfully, most liberal policies are either excusing or creating a fukked up situation, imo. I can't really think of one that isn't.

 

[the cac mamba]

think about all the blacks who have been aborted....we would have the parties on our dikk but no you would rather engage in demonic filth.

this coming from the dude who says single mothers are your communities' biggest problem

seems contradictory

 

[Chris.B]

this coming from the dude who says single mothers are your communities' biggest problem

seems contradictory

I'm an advocate for condoms not abortions.
Condoms are cheap

 

[Calmye]

yes

not a baby til it takes its first breath imo

Cutting a babies arms, legs and head off in the womb at 7mo is okay with you. Wow this is why I can't jump on the pro abortion wagon. You guys have no moral values at all. Its just about what ever makes your lives easier.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/aborted01-11.jpg
Hope you enjoy your life of unprotected sex and bad chooses all in the name of having a fun life. Because this is what it cost you. IDK why you pro abortion folks just can't use protection

 

[the cac mamba]

Cutting a babies arms, legs and head off in the womb at 7mo is okay with you. Wow this is why I can't jump on the pro abortion wagon. You guys have no moral values at all. Its just about what ever makes your lives easier.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/aborted01-11.jpg
Hope you enjoy your life of unprotected sex and bad chooses all in the name of having a fun life. Because this is what it cost you. IDK why you pro abortion folks just can't use protection

at a link from 'priests for life'

what about all the lives theyve ruined by molesting thousands of kids

 

[Calmye]

at a link from 'priests for life'

what about all the lives theyve ruined by molesting thousands of kids

That's another thread breh. But I think we can both agree child molestation is wrong..... right?

My point is that some kids or born 6months into the pregnancy. So to say that those children are not life is kinda messed up.

 

[the cac mamba]

That's another thread breh. But I think we can both agree child molestation is wrong..... right?

My point is that some kids or born 6months into the pregnancy. So to say that those children are not life is kinda messed up.

its wicked messed up, but at this point its a fact of life . i think its a fukkin terrible practice, but its also terrible that there are millions of kids that we already cant take care of

also, i said earlier in the thread that late abortions are fukked up. if ur gonna do it then you better decide within a month of that positive pregnancy test, at least for the fetus' sake

 

[Calmye]

its wicked messed up, but at this point its a fact of life . i think its a fukkin terrible practice, but its also terrible that there are millions of kids that we already cant take care of

also, i said earlier in the thread that late abortions are fukked up. if ur gonna do it then you better decide within a month of that positive pregnancy test, at least for the fetus' sake

I can understand that breh. I'm not for abortion unless the pregnancy is from rap, incest, or the child is going to have a severe handicap. And even on the last one I feel its morally wrong but a can understand the decision to abort.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I think pro-abortion is the wrong term to use. I don't think very many people are walking around advocating that as their platform.

You like terms because it helps dilute the intent of demonic filth. Sad, friend. Terms help individuals turn blind eyes to the devil standing right in front of them. They're not human beings, their insurgents. Its not a baby, its an undeveloped fetus. Its not murder, its a womans choice. You know what it really is though?

Its so demonic, friend.

Margaret was a demon and the policies she supported are still in place today, just under different, terms. Wow, again.

Its so demonic, friend.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

edit: never mind...my mistake.