Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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From the outset, I have never thought Trump directly conspired with any Russian intelligence assets or operatives, that may be not the commonly held opinion here, but that is what has always made sense to me. I think there is possibly compromising financial dealings with Russia assets and operatives, whether knowingly and unknowingly. Trump is such a man, that all it would take is someone saying "Hey Putin really thinks the world of you, and if you could just say nice things, we can do incredible work with Russia", and that would be all it would take.

I do think Stone, Manafort, all did have ties to Russian intelligence, again, unknowingly or knowingly, and may have accepted, offered, or even conspired to some extent, it is within that gray area that charges were not brought. I don't think there is a prosecutable case regarding a conspiracy with Russia and Trump. I think it is much more likely he simply said yes, to any and all of what his aides were doing, and likely didn't even have knowledge of other aspects. And the rest is his worship of Putin, plus the policy his aides helped sell him on, that Putin was a friend and a supporter, I think that is all there is to it.

The obstruction of justice, I am eager to read about. I think it all lies in the intent, and whether it would be a prosecutable case, and whether there would be precedent, (likely not, given the circumstances), and just want to read it as a piece of investigative work.
 

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I understand how Mueller wants to play this, but bottom line, buck stops with him if he's going to sit along and allow Barr to do what he's doing.

His silence is by definition complicity as far as I'm concerned.
Big Facts.
People keep saying Mueller is a genius and had a team full of dream team talent prosecutors and investigators and he let Barr come in last minute and shutdown his investigation and put a summary of his on words as the final say ? He’s complicit or his testimony is going to be blockbuster.
 

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Big Facts.
People keep saying Mueller is a genius and had a team full of dream team talent prosecutors and investigators and he let Barr come in last minute and shutdown his investigation and put a summary of his on words as the final say ? He’s complicit or his testimony is going to be blockbuster.

As much as people like to convince themselves otherwise, Mueller and Trump are on the same team. :yeshrug:

They can subpoena Mueller if they want, but I'm not really convinced that he'll say much of anything we don't already know.
 

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