Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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Who’s is Congress is going to refer Barr to?
The DOJ? You guys are in for a rude awakening.
Barr is a political appointee playing a political game.

The running theory is as follows:

  • Dems want the full report and underlying grand jury information
  • The courts are unlikely to give up that information for oversight
  • Dems haven't formally said their requests are for impeachment proceedings
  • Until they do they're stuck in this song and dance
  • They should just pull up
 

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Barr is a political appointee playing a political game.

The running theory is as follows:

  • Dems want the full report and underlying grand jury information
  • The courts are unlikely to give up that information for oversight
  • Dems haven't formally said their requests are for impeachment proceedings
  • Until they do they're stuck in this song and dance
  • They should just pull up
The people didn’t give the Dems balls for them to act like they have ovaries.
 

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They're forcing the Democrats to either commit or not to impeachment, shamefully, this is a smart play.

The Dems could get everything they want and some if they draw up articles of impeachment and get them through the house, I don't believe the Senate piece is even necessary for them to not only get the full report but the grand jury testimony as well. Pay close attention, the grand jury testimony is where the real damage is.

If they call Barr and the WH's bluff, they get everything they want and potential ammunition to force Trump's removal but its a political gamble that could cost them 2020 and further split the party because it will kill any real chance of any legitimate policy agreements.

I don't think Nancy has the nerve or the juice, everything she says publicly is to try and ensure the D's hold on to the House.

D's got to sh*t or get off the pot at this point.
 

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They're forcing the Democrats to either commit or not to impeachment, shamefully, this is a smart play.

The Dems could get everything they want and some if they draw up articles of impeachment and get them through the house, I don't believe the Senate piece is even necessary for them to not only get the full report but the grand jury testimony as well. Pay close attention, the grand jury testimony is where the real damage is.

If they call Barr and the WH's bluff, they get everything they want and potential ammunition to force Trump's removal but its a political gamble that could cost them 2020 and further split the party because it will kill any real chance of any legitimate policy agreements.

I don't think Nancy has the nerve or the juice, everything she says publicly is to try and ensure the D's hold on to the House.

D's got to sh*t or get off the pot at this point.
This is what they get for listening to compromised half stepping bytches like that ghoul Pelosi.

Talib and AOC were on the gas pedal from the beginning but that bytch was too worried about "reigning in" folks and protecting her authority as speaker.

Now they're being forced into the choice she was p*ssyfooting on, a move yall was co-signing.

And they gotta do it with a fraction of the public support they had in january.

B b but look at her being petty to trump! Look at her saractastic clap, such a decisive and strong leader!
 

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This is what they get for listening to compromised half stepping bytches like that ghoul Pelosi.

Talib and AOC were on the gas pedal from the beginning but that bytch was too worried about "reigning in" folks and protecting her authority as speaker.

Now they're being forced into the choice she was p*ssyfooting on, a move yall was co-signing.

And they gotta do it with a fraction of the public support they had in january.

B b but look at her being petty to trump! Look at her saractastic clap, such a decisive and strong leader!

Hindsight shows us she was right to calm the impeachment talks because the way Barr was able to spin the Mueller report and then sit on it would have killed any impeachment proceedings dead in their tracks. Now they have some precedent but they're going to have to weigh the political blowback versus the reward. All of that after Nadler makes the subpoenas official.
 

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Hindsight shows us she was right to calm the impeachment talks because the way Barr was able to spin the Mueller report and then sit on it would have killed any impeachment proceedings dead in their tracks. Now they have some precedent but they're going to have to weigh the political blowback versus the reward. All of that after Nadler makes the subpoenas official.
They have no choice but to subpoena for the unredacted version now...it should have been done last week to be honest
 

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They have no choice but to subpoena for the unredacted version now...it should have been done last week to be honest
According to the lawyers who deal with these things, in order to ensure you have any chances of winning a court battle - because we all know that's where this is going - you have to demonstrate that you exhausted every avenue and gave ample chances prior to the subpoenas.

Thats a check on abuse of subpoena power.
 

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They are WHITE and republican... Republicans stick together they have never rebelled against the leaders in the party... EVER... to my recollection...:mjpls:
They will never call for articles of impeachment against their own...

That's why voting is important...:bpmjpls:

Yeah...I ain't letting that shyt go. :bpufedup:
 
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