Classics Discussion: A Tribe Called Quest; Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth

[Inspect Her Deck]

Ok so some of y'all will be familiar with a project I'm deciding to run. I made this thread: The Official 'Classic Album' Discussion Thread, trying to reach a conclusion as to what defines a classic album. After much discussion, I am running with this definition personally, so take it as you will when you consider your classic albums. But this definition in particular was most agreed upon.

Classic: 1. An album considered by consensus of the core hip hop community to be of the highest quality (doesn't have to be perfect or flawless, just an album that the consensus deems the shyt).
2. Assuming that condition 1 is met, is this an album that has stood the test of time amongst the core hip hop community? Is that an album still held in high regard, still referenced at least ten years after its release? By a consensus of the hip hop community?

Props to @mobbinfms for the definition and also for his help generally in helping me with ideas to create these threads.

So I'll be going through one artist per day, and I will list out all their discography or close to all of it until the year 2005, as we decided that an album needs at least 10 years of existence before it can be called a classic or not.

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To help bring even more attention to these threads, I'm gonna create a hashtag (again props to mobbinfms for the idea) and I urge you guys to click on the tag and click on the option to watch the tag.

Here it is: #coliclassics

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Today. ATCQ and Pete Rock & CL Smooth! Get voting brehs.

I will be making a POLL. For each album I will present a YES or NO option so if you think that particular album is a classic, you click 'yes' on the poll for THAT album and vice-versa. The acceptance rate for an album to be deemed a CERTIFIED classic is 80%.

If you don't think an album is a classic, DO NOT LEAVE THE POLL BLANK. You vote NO for that album instead so at least we register your vote.

I will NOT count any comments in the thread as votes, you must use the poll. The comments section should be used for discussion only.

Tagging some mods:

@FreshAIG @That Singer Guy... @hustlemania @houston911 @SoulController

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Said yes to LET and MM for Tribe, and Mecca for Pete and CL.

 

[mobbinfms]

Yes to the first three Tribe albums and Mecca. Really on the fence for Main Ingredient
Voting no for now.
#tpc
#tnt
I didn't get the notification for the hash tag
Anybody else get it?

 

[kingofnyc]

thank u sir


now we can dwell into hip hop in its purest form
cause da last thread was all about 2 narcissistic irrational confused individuals

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

thank u sir


now we can dwell into hip hop in its purest form
cause da last thread was all about 2 narcissistic irrational confused individuals

lol

tbh man Pac is awesome but Pac fans can be pretty fukking terrible! Ye fans were completely overshadowed if there were any present.

Anyway what's your take on this?

Yes to the first three Tribe albums and Mecca. Really on the fence for Main Ingredient
Voting no for now.
#tpc
#tnt
I didn't get the notification for the hash tag
Anybody else get it?

tag not working?

anyway breh I struggled with Tribe's debut but said no because there was room for improvement and it was weak in some parts but very minimal. Didn't help that I was comparing to LET and MM lol, literally perfection.

For Pete Rock tempted to give 0 but decided to reward the debut just because it is relevant, TROY and what have you. Production masterclass. I was wavering on quality.

 

[kingofnyc]

all time classic

 

[Foxmulder]

First 3 Tribe albums are classics. Mecca and the Soul Brother definitely is. I don't think Main Ingredient is though.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Someone explain why PITPOR has the necessary quality to be a classic? Just curious.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Da hell?

Nobody wants to talk in this thread?

 

[mobbinfms]

Where's @Nomad1 when you need him

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Trickier than expected.

Pete Rock and CL Smooth, I went w/ "Mecca and the Soul Brother" only because that album was packed full of jams and had a perfect vibe to play from start to beginning. "Main Ingredient" was good, but the peaks of "Mecca" outweigh it as a whole.

"People's", "Low End" and "Midnight" did it for me for Tribe. That was a great three in a row from a group.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Where's @Nomad1 when you need him

I miss the crummy fukker, need his energy rn

 

[kingofnyc]

Where's @Nomad1 when you need him

dude is ho-emotional

 

[mobbinfms]

Someone explain why PITPOR has the necessary quality to be a classic? Just curious.

To me it's just an obvious classic. Amazing song after amazing song.
What songs don't you like?

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

To me it's just an obvious classic. Amazing song after amazing song.
What songs don't you like?

Once again to me on this list of strict classics, it could go, so I voted no on that kinda basis.

Don't care much for Pubic Enemy, Rhythm, Ham n Eggs or Description of a Fool.

But that's neither here nor there. Because I don't enjoy Criminal Minded at all bar like two/three songs but it's a classic.

It's just there was room for improvement. Rhymes were too simple, comedic and song writing far inferior. Not to mention Phife was hardly on at all and the synergy didn't seem all there. Musically brilliant, as is to be expected, but even then it wasn't entirely consistent. LET and MM far better in all facets.