Clark Kent says Biggie's dead because 2pac lied

[Greenhornet]

biggie fans still mad weird in here

he was gonna probably get shot or shot at regardless
you cant rewrite history... the whole world was watching and listening

bad boy literally spoke on it
puffy spoke on it the most
biggie sneak dissed all day
pac was wild and crossing lines


to go to cali, rap long kiss goodnight on the radio etc was like throwing food in a lions cage
bad boy literally said "we move in silence" and will have you touched for disrespect
you can name handfuls of songs where they sneak dissed Pac ... thats not even counting all the actual evidence that came out after... like the stolen jewels shyt etc

none of the small details matter, the fact is Pac and Biggie both played into the hand perfect
and allowed themselves to be martyrs. Pac is wreckless, but Biggie is a piece of shyt too.
you cant blame Pac for focusing on destroying BIG and trying to keep all of his L's private


its all out in the open... Pac knew something about Jay that we didnt know at the time too
similar to how Jay knew something about 50 before he blew up and took shots


all this shyt is laid out and people are still moving goalposts or in denial
Pac was egomanic fighting for money and fame... Biggie turned on him and was a piece of shyt
Pac didnt want people to see his behind the scene L's so he fled and came at Biggies neck
Bad Boy laughed and said "we will see"
Pac crossed the line ... Died which is no surprise to anyone
Biggie crossed the line after the fact... died to nobodies surprise

all the wolves on both sides laughed to the bank at these idiots


there's no way to say Pac wasnt set up at Quad when the hit was planned and the robbery was on their watch
they were getting extorted just like Pac was ... them dudes were both food

 

[kingofnyc]

Okay, ignore the truth then just dont push your opinion as fact.

The truth is 4 nikkaz that was standing right next to him … said he shot himself
The truth is that he NEVER admitted to shooting himself
The truth is 3 of them 4 nikkaz said that was the ONLY shot that went off


that’s not my opinion , that’s the facts !

 

[seemorecizzy]

biggie fans still mad weird in here

he was gonna probably get shot or shot at regardless
you cant rewrite history... the whole world was watching and listening

bad boy literally spoke on it
puffy spoke on it the most
biggie sneak dissed all day
pac was wild and crossing lines


to go to cali, rap long kiss goodnight on the radio etc was like throwing food in a lions cage
bad boy literally said "we move in silence" and will have you touched for disrespect
you can name handfuls of songs where they sneak dissed Pac ... thats not even counting all the actual evidence that came out after... like the stolen jewels shyt etc

none of the small details matter, the fact is Pac and Biggie both played into the hand perfect
and allowed themselves to be martyrs. Pac is wreckless, but Biggie is a piece of shyt too.
you cant blame Pac for focusing on destroying BIG and trying to keep all of his L's private


its all out in the open... Pac knew something about Jay that we didnt know at the time too
similar to how Jay knew something about 50 before he blew up and took shots


all this shyt is laid out and people are still moving goalposts or in denial
Pac was egomanic fighting for money and fame... Biggie turned on him and was a piece of shyt
Pac didnt want people to see his behind the scene L's so he fled and came at Biggies neck
Bad Boy laughed and said "we will see"
Pac crossed the line ... Died which is no surprise to anyone
Biggie crossed the line after the fact... died to nobodies surprise

all the wolves on both sides laughed to the bank at these idiots


there's no way to say Pac wasnt set up at Quad when the hit was planned and the robbery was on their watch
they were getting extorted just like Pac was ... them dudes were both food

biggie did not turn on pac and he wasn't a piece of shyt at all lol
pac came at him in a fashion that hadn't been seen in hip hop history at the time.
he reacted how he reacted, as a 20 year old inexperienced black dude who just wanted to rap.
Pac turned it into a whole different thing

Big was even talkin about retiring before he passed, pac and probably puffy took all da fun out of music for him.

I wouldn't even say pac was a piece of shyt....But he was a liar who was heavily influenced by whoever was around him at the time.

 

[RoCKetSity256]

 

[Bigsuk]

no one can watch da 2 of american's most wanted video objectively and say tupac didn't lie on biggie lol..he straight up said biggie set him up to get killed cause he wanted his "spot" in da rap game..Do you know how fukkin ridicilous that shyt sounds? lol

if pac doesnt lie, big is still alive today.

i will admit, biggie got a little too cocky towards da end, but pac clearly pissed him off and embarrassed him to da point that he still wanted some type of revenge even after he died.

Pac was sayin a lot of crazy shyt and big never got a chance to reply da way he wanted to. Pac was dead like 2 months after hit em up was released.

no one can watch da 2 of american's most wanted video objectively and say tupac didn't lie on biggie lol..he straight up said biggie set him up to get killed cause he wanted his "spot" in da rap game..Do you know how fukkin ridicilous that shyt sounds? lol

if pac doesnt lie, big is still alive today.

i will admit, biggie got a little too cocky towards da end, but pac clearly pissed him off and embarrassed him to da point that he still wanted some type of revenge even after he died.

Pac was sayin a lot of crazy shyt and big never got a chance to reply da way he wanted to. Pac was dead like 2 months after hit em up was released.

Respect your opinion breh … I don’t see it as clear cut biggies dead cause pac lied ….you could say very strongly tho pac heightened the intense atmosphere or tension or hatred towards biggie which was wrong and uncalled for especially since he knew what was up …. I think where it becomes dangerous is when suge and puffy started beefing more so … since both had real street gangs backing each label and the waring with each other behind the scenes ….like I said pac heightened the hate but … it’s not like some die hard tupac fan pulled up on biggie that night and clapped big to avenge pacs death over lies told by pac … it’s clearly obvious suge and his people did that to big … for a number of reasons ….. said it before best thing puffy and biggie could have done is fukk the money stay outta l.a for a cool few years til things died down … just my opinion respect …

 

[Bigsuk]

biggie did not turn on pac and he wasn't a piece of shyt at all lol
pac came at him in a fashion that hadn't been seen in hip hop history at the time.
he reacted how he reacted, as a 20 year old inexperienced black dude who just wanted to rap.
Pac turned it into a whole different thing

Big was even talkin about retiring before he passed, pac and probably puffy took all da fun out of music for him.

I wouldn't even say pac was a piece of shyt....But he was a liar who was heavily influenced by whoever was around him at the time.

That’s why I laugh when I hear people call pac the “realest “ that’s something that just sounds cool to say but in reality pac wasn’t the realest rapper he had his real moments and his sus moments…he had passion hella charisma but pac lied a fair few times and was a bit of a manipulator at times aswell … he knew he was believable just the way he spoke since he was a good talker ….cats need to learn not every thing pac said was true … he was very calculated in my opinion….I’ve already stated my opinion on quad … that is was pac saving face as far as how he handled the situation afterwards…. Last thing il say on that situation…. Pac didn’t live long enough for nikkas to start to grill him and call him out on the lies or saving face he was doing …. best beileve had pac lived a few years longer there would be numerous rappers , tv hosts, rap podcasts etc start seeing the cracks in his story about quad n his reasons at going at bigge sooner or later people would be calling him out on shyt he was saying because he wasn’t been truthful about stuff …..

 

[Nomad1]

The truth is 4 nikkaz that was standing right next to him … said he shot himself
The truth is that he NEVER admitted to shooting himself
The truth is 3 of them 4 nikkaz said that was the ONLY shot that went off


that’s not my opinion , that’s the facts !

1 bullet doesn't ricochet and get you hit 4 other times. A Doctor was sworn under oath and said he was shot 5x, what the doctor said is corroborated by the NYPD officers that were on the scene.
You can believe those other guys, the Doctors and police were dealing with physical evidence.

NYPD's response is linked below;
"Tupac was shot numerous times, including shots to the head"


You biggie stans are just weirdos caping for a fraud

 

[RasNas]

Biggies death is more Puffys fault.

 

[Bigsuk]

Biggies death is more Puffys fault.

In order … pac for the intense hate biggie was getting over false accusations / puffy for giving biggie false sense of security about l.a or leading him out there when things were too hot / suge for allegedly putting the hit out …. I think that’s a fair point of view what led to biggies Death ….

 

[kingofnyc]

1 bullet doesn't ricochet and get you hit 4 other times. A Doctor was sworn under oath and said he was shot 5x, what the doctor said is corroborated by the NYPD officers that were on the scene.
You can believe those other guys, the Doctors and police were dealing with physical evidence.

NYPD's response is linked below;
"Tupac was shot numerous times, including shots to the head"


You biggie stans are just weirdos caping for a fraud

don’t be mad at me
be mad at his best friend … standing to the left of him
be mad at his rode manager … standing behind him
be mad at his brother in law … standing to the right of him
be mad at the nikka who was hired to rob him … standing across from him





and this is the sole reason I particularly care not to have this debate

1. you’re using a doctor testimony … whom is from a rehab facility thats not affiliated with the actual hospital where the patient was delivered and nevertheless, this dr. never analyze the patient as he entered the facility.… and I find it quite interesting that you and others never seem to pull up the actual head surgeon, Dr Patcher statement on the immediate surgery to stop the bleeding, was simply about the one shot that went to hit through his thigh & had no other statement any other gun shot wounds.

2. your using a police statement which they have admitted they never had the opportunity to investigate, with that said , they did say they only found one gun shot shell on the scene.

 

[Bigsuk]

don’t be mad at me
be mad at his best friend … standing to the left of him
be mad at his rode manager … standing behind him
be mad at his brother in law … standing to the right of him
be mad at the nikka who was hired to rob him … standing across from him





and this is the sole reason I particularly care not to have this debate

1. you’re using a doctor testimony … whom is from a rehab facility thats not affiliated with the actual hospital where the patient was delivered and nevertheless, this dr. never analyze the patient as he entered the facility.… and I find it quite interesting that you and others never seem to pull up the actual head surgeon, Dr Patcher statement on the immediate surgery to stop the bleeding, was simply about the one shot that went to hit through his thigh & had no other statement any other gun shot wounds.

2. your using a police statement which they have admitted they never had the opportunity to investigate, with that said , they did say they only found one gun shot shell on the scene.

Just on that note …. There is no way on earth pac was shot 2x in the head at point blank range and was able to be going to court that next morning with just a massive head bandage on … he would if not dead at the very least in a coma or unconscious for a while ….

 

[seemorecizzy]

This is da most irresponsible shyt in hip hop history


Ppl need to realize there was no social media back then. Everything was magazines, newspapers, visuals, and heresay. We have the ability to research things and get real life accounts from mulitiple ppl associated with the situation.



I remember watching this as a youngin and getting in real arguments with people who thought biggie wanted pac DEAD so he can be da more popular rapper lmao

People who were biggie fans pre death row pac now hated him cause they thought he tried to take Pac's life. I can only imagine how it was in LA, But worldwide, Big was gettin a lot of unnecessary hate because of that man. No one knew or gave a fukk about jimmy henchmen or da rest of those guys, the focus was on biggie.

Pac definitely created that atmosphere

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Just on that note …. There is no way on earth pac was shot 2x in the head at point blank range and was able to be going to court that next morning with just a massive head bandage on … he would if not dead at the very least in a coma or unconscious for a while ….

hahaa. As a teenager, I always thought that was bullshyt. He really ran with that narrative he was shot in the head that close and then checked himself out of the hospital a day later hahhaha. This mf is Wolverine.

 

[Bigsuk]

This is da most irresponsible shyt in hip hop history


Ppl need to realize there was no social media back then. Everything was magazines, newspapers, visuals, and heresay. We have the ability to research things and get real life accounts from mulitiple ppl associated with the situation.



I remember watching this as a youngin and getting in real arguments with people who thought biggie wanted pac DEAD so he can be da more popular rapper lmao

People who were biggie fans pre death row pac now hated him cause they thought he tried to take Pac's life. I can only imagine how it was in LA, But worldwide, Big was gettin a lot of unnecessary hate because of that man. No one knew or gave a fukk about jimmy henchmen or da rest of those guys, the focus was on biggie.

Pac definitely created that atmosphere

Yeah there is deffo no dispute in that pac caused unnecessary tension for big

 

[Dr. Narcisse]