Clark Kent says Biggie's dead because 2pac lied

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I never heard it

Have u?
Disingenuous like a female.
Lol who cares about white people awards

Facts Big was plat before 2pac
Facts ready to die sold better than any 2pac first 3 albums
94-96 Pac out sold Biggie



Pac was the first rapper to have 2 albums go number 1 on billboard back to back. First artist to go plat in prison. AEOM sold 3.5 mill in a few months which was twice as fast as ready to die. To insinuate biggie was the more popular artist is crazy. When biggie died the front page of the NY post says “2pacs rival dead” didn’t even mention Biggies name because he wasn’t a bigger artist.
 

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Disingenuous like a female.

94-96 Pac out sold Biggie



Pac was the first rapper to have 2 albums go number 1 on billboard back to back. First artist to go plat in prison. AEOM sold 3.5 mill in a few months which was twice as fast as ready to die. To insinuate biggie was the more popular artist is crazy. When biggie died the front page of the NY post says “2pacs rival dead” didn’t even mention Biggies name because he wasn’t a bigger artist.
The racist ass NY Post who had a long vested interest in smearing Pac? You think THAT Rupert Murdoch paper had a pulse on hip hop to be proof of something?

I hate this page.
 

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Because Pac stopped dealing in reality bro; whether he really believed it or ran with the lie intentionally. When you're told by multiple people, especially the nikka that got hit along with you on the same night that it wasn't from Big & he had nothing to do with it; then it's time to come to terms. He & Cease tried to visit him in the hospital & brought his hammer back to him & that visit to Riker's should've squashed any potential issues
Big ignored Pac when Pac tried to reach back out to him. Big owed Pac money. Pac thought Big had money Because he was a platinum rapper now but Big was still broke. So Big started ducking him. Beef was over money among other shyt. Pac wanted more loyalty.
 

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What does that have to do with my point?
I was fine with your point until you said the Post. They were long time racist attack dogs at Pac’s neck. I wouldnt use them as proof of shyt. They celebrated Pacs murder
 

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Big ignored Pac when Pac tried to reach back out to him. Big owed Pac money. Pac thought Big had money Because he was a platinum rapper now but Big was still broke. So Big started ducking him. Beef was over money among other shyt. Pac wanted more loyalty.
That might be true but Pac didn't have to lie & tie him into the Quad situation when he knew who did that to him. This whole thread is about the lie Pac told
 

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I was fine with your point until you said the Post. They were long time racist attack dogs at Pac’s neck. I wouldnt use them as proof of shyt. They celebrated Pacs murder
If anything it proves my point. They trying to sell newspapers so they are going to use the name to sell the most. Even though the Post hated Pac.
 

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If anything it proves my point. They trying to sell newspapers so they are going to use the name to sell the most. Even though the Post hated Pac.
Man….stop bringing them up as proof of anything. They hate Black men, period. Who would use a racist rag as proof of who is more popular in hiphop?

They had a pic of Obama as a chimp with bullet holes in his back.

fukk that rag
 

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Ive said so much on this site that came from being on the street, knowing circles in hip hop during that time, to the point that my dog was BIGs road manager until he got fired for ripping BIG off.

BIG did NOT have it like that to be ordering hits on anyone.

The niqqas I know who used to roll around BIG? THEM NIQQAS? :childplease:

Hell NO! He didnt have it to push buttons for the goons I know who circled BIG. And for people to buy into Pac saying he put a hit on someone? He was a low level drug dealer who happened to be a great MC. He wasnt a mover of goons. I know some of the goons that were around BIG. They operated on a whole other level that wasnt in BIGs capacity to move them around like chess pieces.

Tutt is a legendary NYC street goon. Same with Haitian Jack who was in Love People, the shower posse watering hole night club in Crown Heights, every weekend.

BIG had ZERO sway over those dudes. Whose fault is it that Pac was dumb enough to think BIG could protect him from those level goons? He couldn’t even protect his own pockets from my man. :heh:

That shyt from Pac always rubbed me the wrong way because BIG was not a shot caller. I didnt even know BIG but knew some of his circle and could see it from my vantage point. He was in NO position to protect anyone from harm from hardened goons even Mike Tyson told Pac to stay away from. :camby:
It's funny because in interviews Pac would go on rants saying "Biggie act like he's this big don of NY but couldn't tell me who was about to kill me"

This always made me laugh cause:

1) It's like Pac, fam, Biggie is a rapper. It's called embellishment. He's an entertainer. LOL. They all lie about how big they are in the streets. King of NY was a gimmick/marketing ploy, he's not the real life Frank White. I don't know why Pac was acting like Biggie had all this intel that he purposefully was holding back from him.

2) Also, wasn't Pac saying BIG was broke sleeping on your couch? If that's so, what would make you think 1 year later he's this big Don that has the power to know the inner workings of Jimmy Henchmen's organization and who set out what hit and why it was done? He said he got the intel from nikkas when he was on the Island, yeah, probably because those are REAL GANGSTERS who would know. Lol.
 

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Know what would be great?

If everybody could finally drop this shyt.

Clark, Gene Deal, Flex, Keefee D, etc... all them dudes should let BIG and Pac rest. Because if we're bein' real, had they lived to this day, I doubt Big and Pac would still be yappin' about it. Only their associates and MFs who didn't know either one of them love resurrecting this conversation over and over. Nothing anybody says is gonna bring either one of 'em back.
 

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U nikkas in here playing mental gymnastics. That’s how I know this whole argument is rooted in a hate for PAC rather than dissecting the facts of the situation and seeing things from both perspectives.
No need to hate Pac.

It's just some nikkas act like he the messiah, but in real time they wasn't feelin dude and his bullshyt antics.
 

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94-96 Pac out sold Biggie



Pac was the first rapper to have 2 albums go number 1 on billboard back to back. First artist to go plat in prison. AEOM sold 3.5 mill in a few months which was twice as fast as ready to die. To insinuate biggie was the more popular artist is crazy. When biggie died the front page of the NY post says “2pacs rival dead” didn’t even mention Biggies name because he wasn’t a bigger artist.
What article from what city

That shyt did not fly in nyc
 

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It's funny because in interviews Pac would go on rants saying "Biggie act like he's this big don of NY but couldn't tell me who was about to kill me"

This always made me laugh cause:

1) It's like Pac, fam, Biggie is a rapper. It's called embellishment. He's an entertainer. LOL. They all lie about how big they are in the streets. King of NY was a gimmick/marketing ploy, he's not the real life Frank White. I don't know why Pac was acting like Biggie had all this intel that he purposefully was holding back from him.

2) Also, wasn't Pac saying BIG was broke sleeping on your couch? If that's so, what would make you think 1 year later he's this big Don that has the power to know the inner workings of Jimmy Henchmen's organization and who set out what hit and why it was done? He said he got the intel from nikkas when he was on the Island, yeah, probably because those are REAL GANGSTERS who would know. Lol.
Pac was being disingenuous bro. He knew what was up but that was for the media so he could shyt on Big & control the narrative lol
 
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