City of Oakland set to re-fund the police
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mastermind
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They never lost any funding
This breh claims he monitors this stuff yet just shares the first thing he sees of copoganda. Beware of these cop supporters:
Oakland didn't cut any money from the police budget at all
Oakland’s new budget doesn’t ‘defund’ the police, but it boosts funding for alternatives
It’s perverted at this point. The budget came out and the police were crying about less funding, knowing it wasn’t true.
This breh claims he monitors this stuff yet just shares the first thing he sees of copoganda. Beware of these cop supporters:
Oakland didn't cut any money from the police budget at all
Oakland’s new budget doesn’t ‘defund’ the police, but it boosts funding for alternatives
It’s perverted at this point. The budget came out and the police were crying about less funding, knowing it wasn’t true.
ogc163
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mastermind
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He can’t help himself. Just got to counter his bullshyt.Damn OP out here pushing propaganda
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Semantics and deflections are par for the course here, apparently.
City govt.s reversing defund measures leaves very little wiggle room for people who are/were proponents of "defund the police". Online juelzing notwithstanding, I'll take the word of officials in charge of the public safety of their constituents over random people online .
City govt.s reversing defund measures leaves very little wiggle room for people who are/were proponents of "defund the police". Online juelzing notwithstanding, I'll take the word of officials in charge of the public safety of their constituents over random people online .
Hood Critic
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..no city has actually attempted to officially defund the Police, not even the one where the original protest started. This entire talking point is an absurd right-wing campaign.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Shut your dumbass up.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Berkeley did
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Portland, OR did.
ogc163
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Evidence was provided though. From the link above:"Despite claims to the contrary, the Oakland City Council did not make any cuts to the police budget at all this year. In fact, Oakland police were allotted about $39 million more than in the previous two years, according to a KTVU analysis of city records.
Here's a breakdown of the actual budget numbers:
Oakland police will get $674 million in the next budget cycle (from July 1, 2021, to June 30, 2023) compared to the previous 2-year budget cycle, when they were allotted $635 million. (The budget was reduced from $665 million during the 2020 cycle). Even if the budget hadn't been reduced in the middle of last year, the police department would have been allotted about $9 million more this budget cycle compared to the previous one.
Part of the reason for the increase in funding over the next two years is because the overall city's budget is up, totaling $3.8 billion. Despite a global pandemic and stay-at-home orders forcing businesses to shut down and modify, there was a surplus this year because of excess revenues from the federal government and state that helped local municipalities recover from financial hardships.
Before the budget was approved, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf had proposed spending an additional $57 million on the police for a total of $692 million.
But as is part of the budget process, Councilwoman Nikki Fortunato Bas and like-minded colleagues had proposed spending $18 million less than what Schaaf had proposed."
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@ogc163 , I generally consider you to be a reasonable member. So, your response her puzzles me, and seems to fall into the deflection/semantics category I mentioned earlier.
The full press conference by the mayor and 2 city council members is below.
Listen to their comments about recent budget decisions, and what their future plans regarding public safety realities are.
The full press conference by the mayor and 2 city council members is below.
Listen to their comments about recent budget decisions, and what their future plans regarding public safety realities are.
ogc163
Superstar
A deflection is dismissing or dodging the statement or argument being made, I did not do that, but you can point where I did that.
An argument etched in semantics generally occurs when someone is being pedantic/too literal ignoring context, I did not do that, but again you can point to where I did that.
In regards to the video, I am not watching a 35 min video, so timestamp the part that A) supports the argument that they defunded the police B) undermines the link's argument that there was no defunding.
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The video is worth watching, but public safety realities have prompted that city's leadership to alter decisions made just months ago.
Example
City of Oakland | City Council Votes to Fund An Additional Police…
Where a decision was made about an additional police academy. Community feedback prompted the change in votes.
Community feedback, crime, and public safety concerns are what are prompting the mayor and these council members to call for more funding for the police dept and more officers on the beat. I believe the police budget for next year was less than what the mayor proposed, and that it was cut before approved by the city council. The reversal of those decisions, and why....is what the press conference was about. They are supposed to release a more fleshed out statement about this on Friday.
The deflection comes from the news clip in OP pretty much laying out what I've written here, yet people being reluctant to accept what is happening. Cities that were at the center of defund the police movements are forced by realities to inevitably bring in MORE police officers. That the alternative plans/routes where the money is to be reallocated may be long term ways of addressing crime, but public safety realities are what they TODAY.
Defund the Police was a stupid slogan to begin with. Especially in a time where some cities are experiencing the highest number of homicides since the wild west days of the late 80s- early 90s.
I really hope this is not a trend. I'm not ready for a rise in crime and all the political, social and economic fukkery that we saw during the 70s-90s era.
I really hope this is not a trend. I'm not ready for a rise in crime and all the political, social and economic fukkery that we saw during the 70s-90s era.