Chuck D Slams Older Rappers Who Still Rap About 'The Same Street Tale'

[Art Barr]

STFU

You do not have any power to make mek.

@En Sabah Nur

You just another goofie toy.
Who never and still will never.
Show & prove

Whose head was decapitated.
Trying to still show bravado.

Speaking from a lifeless corspe. From a lost head.


Art Barr

Now for the rest of you Toys.

Entertaining Chuck.

Who have no pillar and know no history.

In any pillar.

Plus have not made any history in any pillar
Or business derived from the pillars.
in rhe rap game.
as a grassroots skilled emcee.
Off the head.
Freestyle or written


Do not entertain.
those who flaug and souled't out.

Then failed to show and prove.



I am the only historian of rhe emcee pillar
.i am alone.
amoung the pillar.
As the only lone protector of hiphop.


Art Barr


ITO OHTOWA
GROWN CUB OF THA LONE WOLF : HEAD DECAPITATOR

 

[FreshAIG]

At the end of the day, rap is entertainment, and most of those topics he listed are just not interesting to listen to to the average fan. Especially not consistently. Y'all can lie to yourselves, but 99% of rap listeners are definitely not trying to hear no raps about prostate and mortgage payments for over 16 tracks.

Sex, Murder, Crime, Money is what America loves to listen to. That's just the harsh reality. That type of content is what sells and this is a business.

 

[Mac Ten]

I can’t believe that Maino is 50 now lol…


I remember Hi Hater being played many summers ago

 

[ajnapoleon]

Preach!

To be honest, Chuck could've also said the same stuff 30 years ago about young cats. He was always all about rap with substance. Reading this does ring like he is also responding to 3K. Gotta be honest and say I also thought about Nas reading this; of course, Nas has extensive subject matter in the last 6 albums, but in many songs, he is rapping about "the same street tale." I wonder if that's also something Chuck intended.

Nah chick saying switch it up it can’t be “just street tales”

Nas switch it up

And low key conway and Benny do switch it up but the bulk is street tales

It’s the just street tales is the problem

Like when Jay started talking about paitings and high life stuff things he was doing for real people wanted to tune out


I’m not in the project talking about the projects all day


That “I can go back when I want to” hanging in the same pissy hallways you was in 30 years ago is not the move

 

[DaMos Supreme]

At the end of the day, rap is entertainment, and most of those topics he listed are just not interesting to listen to to the average fan. Especially not consistently. Y'all can lie to yourselves, but 99% of rap listeners are definitely not trying to hear no raps about prostate and mortgage payments for over 16 tracks.

Sex, Murder, Crime, Money is what America loves to listen to. That's just the harsh reality. That type of content is what sells and this is a business.

Pretty Much. Just like I’ve mentioned in that other thread about the general consensus towards conscious music:

‘I largely agree with this sentiment, but on the flipside I think a good majority of folks just don’t care for conscious content in comparison to other topics.

‘Fukk living positive, cause negativity spreads faster’ - Lloyd Banks

I think the whole ‘lyrical miracle’ tag, or these rappers are not smart enough because they are high school dropouts is an overplayed and convenient excuse to dismissed conscious rappers. Even if a rapper is very good lyrically, great flow and cadence, good hooks, and has a good ear for production. A large portion would prefer the provocative topics of over-indulgence, opulence, and sometimes nihilism in their raps over the conscious content.

I’m not on my soapbox, but I think people should be more honest and say I’m just not largely interested in consciousness in my raps. Me personally, some of my favorite rappers and songs ranged from ultra ignorant/pure unadulterated ignorance to powerful, conscious, uplifting, and positive.

Listen to what you like at the end of the day, but be honest.’

 

[Art Barr]

Hip hop definitely needs a "velvet underground" type artist that can make mature hip hop without it sounding dated or wack.

Y'all allowed the white boi and gangsta rap.
to have sway over the velevt underground king and guy tho.

Not you @Ski Mask

the toy buying public.

Which happened because Chuck. allowed and enabled ice cube.

So the white boi dope could pretty much.
rejuvenate the prison industrial economy gateway.

When rash closed that door shut.


Sohh....

Not you the general youse.

@Ski Mask
You are dope.

Yet for the other mass and sea of toys. Who enabled this easy road. To the prison industrial economy.

Blame yourselves.
For allowing this easy passage to doom.

All on yourselves.

Like now.

None of you know history.

While allowing Chuck to go unchallenged. With no push back.





Art Barr

* was in the crowd of the art history of chicago museaum.
Chuck d seminar in 1992.


I was there.

For real.


Art Barr

ITO OHTOWA
PROTEGE TO A lEGEND
GROWN CUB OF THA LONE WOLF : HEAD DECAPITATOR

 

[semicko82]

At the end of the day, rap is entertainment, and most of those topics he listed are just not interesting to listen to to the average fan. Especially not consistently. Y'all can lie to yourselves, but 99% of rap listeners are definitely not trying to hear no raps about prostate and mortgage payments for over 16 tracks.

Sex, Murder, Crime, Money is what America loves to listen to. That's just the harsh reality. That type of content is what sells and this is a business.

Dap and rep
/thread

 

[Art Barr]

Keep listening to these lone dodger sellout rappers who flaug'n.

Who not gon rock shyt but the stuff on their album.

Plus sheltered and hid in the house. Fronting on the real.

Show and prove.


Or lose your head
Along with your loan dodger sheltered homebody fake flaug'n ass draw.




Art Barr



ITO OHTOWA
CUB OF THA LONE WOLF : HEAD DECAPITATOR

 

[Mac Ten]

How many solo albums did Chuck D ever sell???

Let’s think about it.

Only a certain few that came from the streets exhibit versatility on a record.

Look at Nelly, he was making party jams with street stuff sprinkled.

 

[FreshAIG]

Pretty Much. Just like I’ve mentioned in that other thread about the general consensus towards conscious music:

‘I largely agree with this sentiment, but on the flipside I think a good majority of folks just don’t care for conscious content in comparison to other topics.

‘Fukk living positive, cause negativity spreads faster’ - Lloyd Banks

I think the whole ‘lyrical miracle’ tag, or these rappers are not smart enough because they are high school dropouts is an overplayed and convenient excuse to dismissed conscious rappers. Even if a rapper is very good lyrically, great flow and cadence, good hooks, and has a good ear for production. A large portion would prefer the provocative topics of over-indulgence, opulence, and sometimes nihilism in their raps over the conscious content.

I’m not on my soapbox, but I think people should be more honest and say I’m just not largely interested in consciousness in my raps. Me personally, some of my favorite rappers and songs ranged from ultra ignorant/pure unadulterated ignorance to powerful, conscious, uplifting, and positive.

Listen to what you like at the end of the day, but be honest.’

Thank you!

nikkas be fronting. Because if nikkas wanted to hear mature content like they claim, their listening experiences wouldn't contradict that. But it always does. There's rappers out right now currently doing the content they claim they want to hear, how come none of them nikkas sell records?

My favorite type of rap is typically social commentary on what's happening, and a rapper that can be introspective and retrospective. That's why Death Certificate is my favorite album of all-time. Cube tackled real life issues and did it in a very entertaining way without promoting dumb shyt. If Chuck D said rappers at 40 shouldn't be promoting senseless murder/death/kill raps, I'd be 100% with him. But he lost me with a nikka rapping about mortgages and their prostate. Nobody wants to hear that shyt over the course of a full album. A line here and there, cool, but that can't be where your content resides or you gonna lose a lot of fans.

 

[Mac Ten]

At the end of the day, rap is entertainment, and most of those topics he listed are just not interesting to listen to to the average fan. Especially not consistently. Y'all can lie to yourselves, but 99% of rap listeners are definitely not trying to hear no raps about prostate and mortgage payments for over 16 tracks.

Sex, Murder, Crime, Money is what America loves to listen to. That's just the harsh reality. That type of content is what sells and this is a business.

Most of these fans live through these guys… what u listen to is what u absorb

I love Nas but I know for a fact that he is believable . Even Nas can talk about black celebrities kooning(These Are Our Heroes) and make a song about every chick he screwed(Remember the Times).

A lot of rappers in this day and time don’t wanna talk about the bad side of things as well.

 

[nieman]

This is a flawed concept. First off, there are artists that have always talked about this - Wu, Dead Prez, Nas, Pac, Com, Mos, young Cube, and quite a few others. But those that have always talked about such things, will continue to do so, and those that didn't, will not. Now, Chuck is someone that always had social awareness in his music, but you can't expect everyone to do so.

However, to say that you're not mature for repeatedly speaking on a life you once knew to asinine. The wealthy career criminals are old. The kingpins are old. The common gangster is old. There's no magic age that people simply stop doing what they've honed as life-skills during their formative years. It's really about who the person is, and their focus. That's like saying an elder author doesn't write about youthful rebellion, or tales of life's underworld. And you also can't expect someone to know about the economy, politics, the pharmaceutical industry, health and food, simply because they've hit a certain age. They average person just isn't interest in those type of things in their everyday life, no matter how important. They definitely wouldn't be interested in them as a form of entertainment or escapism. It is the immediate focus and immediate surroundings, and what you naturally gravitate towards.

 

[Capitol]

Keep listening to these lone dodger sellout rappers who flaug'n.

Who not gon rock shyt but the stuff on their album.

Plus sheltered and hid in the house. Fronting on the real.

Show and prove.


Or lose your head
Along with your loan dodger sheltered homebody fake flaug'n ass draw.




Art Barr



ITO OHTOWA
CUB OF THA LONE WOLF : HEAD DECAPITATOR

I feel like you have been dropping aggressive content lately. I'm worried breh

 

[Big Boss]

Facts

 

[wizworld]

The creativity is lost, that's what it is. But it's a different time.

I'm happy Ghostface is still putting out music but I rarely feel like I need to hear it twice. I'll just go back and listen to "Supreme Clientele".

Chuck has to show and prove though. No more passes for older rappers. How does a 2024 rapper get in the creative space you were in back in 1989 with the Bomb Squad? Can you help them figure it out? Chuck had a whole team providing direction. The construction of Public Enemy effectively hid his limitations. How beneficial is his tutelage?

KRS still rapping, Kool Keith is still rapping, Chuck is talking when he could be the change he wants to see.