Chigozi Obioma: There are no successful black nations

Is he right?

  • Yes, if black people had a successful first world country, we'd be more respected

    Votes: 42 48.3%
  • No, the world would hate us anyway

    Votes: 45 51.7%

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I strongly disagree with the premise that there are no successful black nations. The author seems to be conflating some of the most poorly run nations on the African continent with Africa as a whole. It'd be like pointing to Belarus in support of the argument that Europe has no successful nations. For an African, this guy has a remarkably surface-level view of African affairs.

What are some examples of successes then? :patrice:I don't doubt you, just show me some receipts
 

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Talking about oxymorons, you literally just used one in your example :snoop:



Chinese are not really respected (higher status). If they were, they would:

a) Be able to get women (of all races) fairly easily
b) Be able to keep their own women

Both of which they can't do. They are not seen as masculine, dominant, or important. Basically the men would be equivalent to (today's) white males. China is respected only insofar as it has nukes and cheap shyt to buy and to export our crappy products into.

The closest example of an Asian country that is genuinely respected is Japan and maybe Korea after that. Japanese men have built a first world society in less than 50 years and don't let whites take their women in their own country.

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How a group is respected is based on how the men are able to get women and who's fukking their women? This is the type of logic I see only on the coli.com. :mjcry:

Okay, there are loads of white women going to Africa to get fukked by tribal men in villages. I guess Africans are the most respected people then.
 

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:russ::dead:

How a group is respected is based on how the men are able to get women and who's fukking their women? This is the type of logic I see only on the coli.com. :mjcry:

Okay, there are loads of white women going to Africa to get fukked by tribal men in villages. I guess Africans are the most respected people then.

It is a fairly accurate way of assessing the racial/social hierarchies in any given society. Seeing as the reality is white men (and women) have the maximum amount of options and also marry out the least by percentages, they are at the top of the totem pole. I think that's obvious.

A couple of ugly/old/fat white women going to Africa for sexy thrills doesn't change that.
 

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None in Africa probably but plenty of the Caribbean nations are moving anyway from the developing status and into the high income status
 
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Don't think that's a great example. They can't even keep their women, I doubt they are much respected. China as a country, maybe but not Chinese people. They are still shytted on, especially in the US where whites treat them like shyt and take they females.
:laff::laff::laff: You morons look at the world through a vagina prism, like, it's literally at the centre of your universe. lol. Chinamen have made huge strides decade after decade transforming their impoverished nation into an economic powerhouse and soon-to-be superpower. I mean this is one of most rapid rises in human history, yet ya'll focusing on p*ssy? :laff::laff::laff: "The white man can still take their bytch" head ass nikkas. How many times do we have to tell you that there is no power or knowledge to be found between a woman's legs? Keep prioritising p*ssy and see how you'll end up having less and less access to it. Ya'll better grow accustomed to the image of these lil jackie chans sticking their lil dikk in African and other black women, because they cummin...
 

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Can you paste the article so i can read it please

In the wake of fresh deaths at the hands of police officers in the world’s greatest nation, we, the people of the black race, are once again the object of renewed worldwide attention.

Questions of injustice in the United States have been duly raised and protested. And, once again, the black cultural elites in America have seized various platforms to air their grievances and are mostly — and rightly — talking about racism, discrimination, racial profiling, and hate, among other issues. But one issue that has hardly been talked about is the core reason why black people have remained synonymous with the denigrating experience of racism. It is, I dare say, because of the worldwide indignity of the black race.

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Racism is not limited to the Unites States. There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other.

Be assured, the indignity will continue. Black elites and activists across the world have adopted a culture of verbal tyranny in which they shut down any effort to reason or criticize us or black-majority nations by labeling such attempts as “racism” or “hate speech.” Thus, one can be certain that any suggestions that our race may indeed need to do something to remedy our situation will not be aired — not by the terrified people of other races. And anyone within our race who makes such a suggestion will be deemed weak and pandering or a sellout, as U.S. President Barack Obama has been repeatedly called. Thus, no one will talk about the painful fact that most African and Caribbean nations have either failed or are about to collapse.

Thus, no one will talk about the painful fact that most African and Caribbean nations have either failed or are about to collapse.
Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity — and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.

Thus, it is no surprise that in the absence of any healthy black nation — in the midst of chaos, senseless wars, corrupted religiosity, violence, and economic collapse — African and Caribbean people leave home en masse. They beg on the streets of Greece, prostitute in the red-light zones of the Netherlands, and make up 40 percent of the migrants flocking to Europe. As they turn up in these countries, helpless, unwanted, starved, or maimed, they are treated like dogs. Last month in Italy, a newly married Nigerian man was murdered simply for being unwanted. Everywhere from Ukraine to India, nearly every day, black indignity, black helplessness, stares us in the face. And all we do, we who hold the platform can do, is scream “racism!” and court the sympathy of others.

The Yoruba say, “Eniyan bi aparo ni omo araye n’fe,” meaning the world loves a person who is like a partridge. The partridge is a poor bird that, enfeebled by its creation, has little ability to hunt, gather, protect, or feed itself. The Yoruba believe that the world loves these birds because they provide the space for people to show both sincere and insincere sympathy while holding firm to their position as the superior and maintaining the place of the partridge as the weak. Which is to say that if the partridge relies on the sympathy of others, it will not elevate its position. If we, black people everywhere, cannot gather the resources within our powers to exert real changes and restore our dignity, we will continue to be seen as weak

If we, black people everywhere, cannot gather the resources within our powers to exert real changes and restore our dignity, we will continue to be seen as weak. Our protestations and grievances will be met with sympathy, which does nothing to inspire respect.
Black elites should allow for self-criticism and soul-searching and for the restoration of the Pan-Africanist movement with an eye toward building sustainable black nations. We must come to realize that to a great extent the fate of the black man in America is inextricably linked to that of his brother in Africa. Although largely unacknowledged in American political discourse, Jim Crow ended in part because of the African Independent movements. Jaja Nwachukwu, a 1960s-era Nigerian foreign minister and avowed Pan-Africanist who was close friends with American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and Lyndon Johnson, once recalled how American officials were embarrassed when African ministers attended official events in New York’s U.N. headquarters and were treated with honor as representatives of sovereign countries. They were ashamed, for instance, when American blacks could not use the same bathroom as the Africans, just as black. The American blacks were further empowered when African nations started becoming independent, black-governed nation-states, beginning with Ghana in 1957 and followed shortly afterward by other African nations.

As long as we continue to ignore Africa’s continuous wallowing in senseless poverty and destructive failures, as long as the Congolese or the Haitian remains the poster child for poverty and lack, we will remain undignified. As long as we continue to ignore our own self-assessment and soul-searching, we will remain the undignified race. Sadig Rasheed, one of the leading African politicians of the 1980s, once told Polish journalist Ryszard Kapuscinski: “I worry about whether African societies will be able to assume a self-critical stance, and much depends on this.” I add: Our dignity — and even survival — will depend on this.
 
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How a group is respected is based on how the men are able to get women and who's fukking their women? This is the type of logic I see only on the coli.com. :mjcry:

Okay, there are loads of white women going to Africa to get fukked by tribal men in villages. I guess Africans are the most respected people then.
Bruv, who's raising these nikkas? :mindblown:
 

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Talking about oxymorons, you literally just used one in your example :snoop:



Chinese are not really respected (higher status). If they were, they would:

a) Be able to get women (of all races) fairly easily
b) Be able to keep their own women

Both of which they can't do. They are not seen as masculine, dominant, or important. Basically the men would be equivalent to (today's) white males. China is respected only insofar as it has nukes and cheap shyt to buy and to export our crappy products into.

The closest example of an Asian country that is genuinely respected is Japan and maybe Korea after that. Japanese men have built a first world society in less than 50 years and don't let whites take their women in their own country.

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These are the reasons why the Chinese are respected globally. You simple minded negros always think about sex is the reason for respect. Money and violence is how you earn respect in this world. Not women. I swear this logic is backwards I don't know what to tell you.
 

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:laff::laff::laff: You morons look at the world through a vagina prism, like, it's literally at the centre of your universe. lol. Chinamen have made huge strides decade after decade transforming their impoverished nation into an economic powerhouse and soon-to-be superpower. I mean this is one of most rapid rises in human history, yet ya'll focusing on p*ssy? :laff::laff::laff: "The white man can still take their bytch" head ass nikkas. How many times do we have to tell you that there is no power or knowledge to be found between a woman's legs? Keep prioritising p*ssy and see how you'll end up having less and less access to it. Ya'll better grow accustomed to the image of these lil jackie chans sticking their lil dikk in African and other black women, because they cummin...

Ok, answer this simple question:

When white countries (UK, US, France, Spain etc) began rising to super-power status did their women marry out at close to 50% rates (i.e. like Chinese women do)?























.........Yeah. I thought so.
 

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It is a fairly accurate way of assessing the racial/social hierarchies in any given society. Seeing as the reality is white men (and women) have the maximum amount of options and also marry out the least by percentages, they are at the top of the totem pole. I think that's obvious.

A couple of ugly/old/fat white women going to Africa for sexy thrills doesn't change that.

Find a chick and bust a nut in her. Not everything is about sex.

There's absolutely no correlation between sex and respect. The primary reason why most women of other races date/marry white men is because they're the most dominant group in the West and Western countries are white countries. Coupled with the fact that white men are heavily publicized as the standard.

After white men, black men are the most desired group...does that mean we're also respected? Well, that has to do with aesthetics based on genetics and the BBC myth. I get hit on by white women all the time (than black women most times because white women are brazen when they want you unlike black women who tend to hide it) but that doesn't negate the fact that as a black man, I know collectively we're still at the bottom of the totem pole and they don't respect us.
 
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