Chiefs @ Bills Game Thread
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There are very few QBs who have won outright MVP without winning their division. Peyton Manning in 2008 was the last. That was a weird year, though. Brady was out for the season, Warner and Rivers had great years, but were 9-7 and 8-8. Brees had a monster year, but missed the playoffs at 8-8. I always wondered why AD didnt get more MVP love that season. Despite all I typed, it was Chad Pennington who finished as the runner up for turning around the DolphinsWhy do yall make up metrics for awardsWho said he has to āwin his divisionā to be mvp? He just has to have a great team record. If the ravens finish 12-5 and Steelers finish 13-4 and ravens lose the division no one is gonna say āwelp, canāt give it to himā.
And Josh has to win AND put up stats. Theyāre not giving it to a game manager. Now if Allen finishes as the 1 seed WITH stats then heāll win it but he will have deserved it, they wouldnāt be āhandingā him anything and it wouldnāt be ānarrativeā
Yall on this Burrow shyt like as if Mahomes just didn't collapse
Mahomes literally choked that title game away, don't give Burrow too much credit for that
If youāve watched Buffalo they can play and win in many ways. Without Coleman and Kincaid, they could easily shift to ālean on the defenseā against lesser opponents.
But yea Allen is playing great. MVP in most yearsā¦..But Lamar Jackson has 25 td 3int and on pace for 1000 rushing yards. What is your point right now?!
If Allen keeps up the numbers heās got a shot. If he doesnāt, he doesnāt. āNarrativeā might win out when itās close or there aināt a clear cut guy. But narrative is not winning out in the type of season Lamar is having
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Iāve never thought about this in my life.
MVPs come from winning teams and those teams typically have won their division =/= MVPās are chosen based on division winners
If Lamar finishes with 40td, 5int, 1000 yards rushing ravens 12-5āperhaps the greatest QB statistical seasonal everāātheyāre not NOT gonna give him MVP bc he didnāt win his division
I never said it was decided by division winners, simply stating a fact. If he has that level of season, he may still get it. Idk why you arent acting like team records dont matter. See Joe Montana vs Randall Cunningham in 1990. Posting on pace stats is cool, but there is alot of fball left to be playedIāve never thought about this in my life.
MVPs come from winning teams and those teams typically have won their division =/= MVPās are chosen based on division winners
If Lamar finishes with 40td, 5int, 1000 yards rushing ravens 12-5āperhaps the greatest QB statistical seasonal everāātheyāre not NOT gonna give him MVP bc he didnāt win his division
92 Young(1st seed
94(Young 1st seed
95 Favre 2nd seed
96 Favre 1st seed
97 Favre 2nd seed
99 Warner 1st seed
01 Warner 1st seed
02 Gannon 1st seed
03 Manning 3rd seed(McNair split it.
04 Manning 3rd seed
07 Brady 1st seed
08 Manning 5th seed
09 Manning 1st seed
10 Brady 1st seed
11 Rodgers 1st seed
13 Manning 1st seed
14 Rodgers 2nd seed
15 Newton 1st seed
16 Ryan 2nd seef
17 Brady 1st seed
18 Mahomes 1st seed
19 Lamar 1st seed
20 Rodgers 1st seed
21 Rodgers 1st seed
22 Mahomes 1st seed
23 Lamar 1st seed
Why the tears?
Those years were the best chances of having an MVP in N.O.
Unfortunately, Brees was outshined by media darlings who are higher on the pecking order (Peyton and Rodgers) and the next big thing (Mahomes) in his last hurrah.
I have since resigned to the fact that there will never be an MVP on the Saints.
It is not meant to be.
@b. woods 2009 was pure garbage. Peyton did go 14-0 before his HC waved the flag on the perfect season, but Brees couldve gotten a co MVP nod. Rodgers was brilliant in 2011 and he carried an awful defense, but one thing everyone ignore is the fact that his backup put up like 470 and 6 td in the seasons final game. If your backup can do that,.how valuable are you?!
Joe Blow is mid. But what I posted has nothing to do with him. My post was about that Paul Bunyan looking MF who's only comparable to elites on their off day
The question is how much is correlation and how much is causality.
Cause from those latest 10 years, those guys were also unanimously the best players regardless of if they came 1st or 2nd. Or their competitors were also from teams that came 1st (or second).
But I can see Allen winning, for performance in the perhaps biggest regular season game. The same day Lamar flopped. But thereās still 6-7 games left. Steelers still have a hard schedule. I think Bills vs Lions will be an important game.
I also donāt think Lamar cares about winning MVP if he doesnāt make it to NO
If that's the case then that should apply to division winners making the playoffsPlaying in a weak division should not be rewarded to that degree
In that case Brady ans mahomes shouldn't have mvpsPlaying in a weak division should not be rewarded to that degree
