Chicano subculture....in Japan

[calixprynce]

They got hit with 2 nukes, I expect them nikkas to at least be a lil weird

 

[Silver Surfer]

 

[Supper]

Can we talk about the roots of Chicano and Pachuco(predecessor of chicanos) cultures, though?

From research, we also learn that there were additional characteristics associated with pachuco culture, such as the dialects of pachuco caló and African American jive; the custom of wearing a tattoo of the shining cross between the thumb and index finger; and marijuana use, among other lesser known traits.

A number of historians of pachuquismo point out that pachucos in Los Angeles spoke more of the jive slang associated with African Americans than the caló associated with pachucos. They also referred to their zoot suits as “drapes” instead of “tacuches.” As a response to this, one might ask, why would that be? Well again, this has to do with the independent histories of jive and caló.

The Spanish-speaking population of Los Angeles had grown exponentially during the 1920s but had been cut drastically during the 1930s as a result of repatriation — an effort by U.S. governments, mostly at the county level, to scare and pressure Mexicans and Mexican Americans to “repatriate” to Mexico during the early 1930s. As many as half a million left the U.S. for Mexico during this period. This resulted in a Mexican American generation that came of age in the 1940s with less of a Spanish-speaking influence. Before WWII, jazz was primarily associated with African Americans who provided a subcultural alternative to white American mainstream customs that Mexican Americans were regularly denied. Some Mexican Americans embraced this African American subculture in their own way, this meant adopting jazz, zoot suits, and jive.

The history of the zoot suit is similarly complex. Pachucos wore zoot suits prior to and during World War II but they did not invent them, nor did they wear them exclusively. Zoot suits were first worn by African American jazz musicians that toured around the country. Jazz aficionados popularized them by wearing them to dances and they grew widespread from there. In Los Angeles, they were worn by African Americans, Mexican Americans, Japanese Americans, and ethnic whites including Italian Americans and Jewish Americans, among others.

Pachucos: Not Just Mexican-American Males or Juvenile Delinquents

Chicano rock is the distinctive style of rock and roll music performed by Mexican Americans from East L.A. and Southern California that contains themes of their cultural experiences. Although the genre is broad and diverse, encompassing a variety of styles and subjects, the overarching theme of Chicano rock is its R&B influence and incorporation of brass instruments like the saxophone and trumpet, Farfisa or Hammond B3 organ, funky basslines, and its blending of Mexican vocal styling sung in English.

In places such as San Antonio, Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay area, and Dallas and Houston, Texas, the African-American audience was very important to aspiring Latino musicians, and this kept their music wedded to authentic R&B. Undoubtedly, many listeners in the 1960s heard Sunny and the Sunglows "Talk to Me", or Thee Midniters' and more famously, Cannibal and the Headhunters' "Land of a Thousand Dances" and assumed that the groups were black. dikk Hugg (aka Huggie Boy) and KRLA 1110 played a big role in promoting this music. Chicano rock music was also influenced by the Doo-wop genre, an example being the song "Angel Baby" by the Chicana fronted group Rosie and the Originals.

Chicano rock - Wikipedia

Brown-eyed soul emerged from the 1950s simultaneously on the East Coast United States, in the Hispanic communities, and on the West Coast, in the much larger Hispanic communities. Chicago soul and Motown hits were crowd favorites at dances and clubs during the late 1950s and early 1960s. Latino artists began to draw inspiration from the Motown hits, and as a result, brown-eyed soul began sounding very similar to African American soul. Early brown-eyed soul artists owed little to traditional Latin and rarely performed in Spanish.

Brown-eyed soul - Wikipedia

Furthermore the doc mentions Chicano rappers. I think that's pretty self explanatory.
Chicano rap - Wikipedia

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

Saw this video a few days ago, was intrigued, and wanted to see what others thought in the comments. Wasn't at all surprised with what I witnessed. A video about a hispanic subculture in Japan, yet the conversation was being redirected towards another group of people.

We are always on their mind.

Black people are the face of the “cultural appropriation” movement

 

[Lord Bison]

I dont mind when Japanese bite off our culture because they think its cool. Because we do it all the time


I have nothing but love for the Japanese. They treated a breh well when I was out in Nippon.

When I was at the club me and the japanese brehs would be like every time I interacted with them

 

[Doobie Doo]

Japan is all types of weird cultural appropriation

They look pretty badass here

Them soft ass muthafukkas are recreating a scene from Johnny Depp's Cry Baby.

A few seconds after this photo was took they broke out in a song/dance routine that got them an Oscar nod.

 

[El_Mero_Mero]

Don't know anything about that Johnny Depp movie, but what's seen in this photo here is the Rockabilly-style.

 

[El_Mero_Mero]

Finally watched this after seeing it on my Facebook feed for like over two weeks. Actually one of the guys that helped on the production side is somebody that I know from when I was in Japan before.

3:17-3:27 is really the only part that matters in all of this.

Doing this is a lot better than some actual racist stuff (which you can easily Google or YouTube if anyone doesn't know what the difference is)

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

They look pretty badass here

They look like Kill Bill villains. I feel like watching that now

 

[ColdSlither]

Them soft ass muthafukkas are recreating a scene from Johnny Depp's Cry Baby.

A few seconds after this photo was took they broke out in a song/dance routine that got them an Oscar nod.

This has been a thing for years. Check out Yu Yu Hakusho. One of the many things Japan has a thing for is the greaser culture from the 50's.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

tho I give them credit as oppose to cacs to an extent, because in this instance it doesn't look like they're mocking it or anything.

I agree especially with this part.

 

[Breh13]

It's pretty weird but don't think it's super malicious (Never got that vibe but I've never looked into it heavily." They see that stereotype shyt on TV since American propo- I mean entertainment is viewed and consumed worldwide it's actually considered a soft power.

If you go to many countries, even some remote areas will have someone who will have seen something from America on their TVs they like a lot and will copy. Asian's are especially on that tip, some idolise cacs.

 

[MikeyC]

Inside Japan’s Chicano Subculture | NYT

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/meet-japans-chicano-subculture.693797/

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Asians worlds largesr imitators

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Inside Japan’s Chicano Subculture | NYT

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/meet-japans-chicano-subculture.693797/

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