Chicago fans pissed at Brock/Kane match tonight

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Flippy wrestling has the potential tell a story every bit as much as some slow-paced cowbell match from the Crockett era could. It's just a different story.

People overstate this "telling a story" shyt because salty old grizzled vets say it all the time in shoot interviews so it becomes canon. As if wrestling "back then" was some bastion of narrative performance art. Mostly it was actually just some big fat white guy yelling incoherently at some big oiled up bodybuilder and then them lazily throwing unconvincing punches and mat-stomping kicks at each other until one of them fell down. And then the referee is distracted at the exact right moment for someone to be blinded by talcolm powder, but it's ok because if they beat him down long enough, his invincibility perk kicks in. Because ultra-realism is what we're going for damnit. Not like this choreographed shyt nowadays.

I dont buy this. Use the network brehs. Wrestling today is slower paced and way more boring. You got matches on Raw with multiple commercial breaks. Look at 97-99 Raw episodes and barely ANY match is longer than 1 segment. This led to guys having to speed shyt up. Dudes would be getting piledriven 2 minutes in, getting to the finish ASAP. Nowadays you got rest holds all day and all this boring shyt. Same with the PPVs. The shows are 5 hours long. Nowadays if you watch a PPV it is literal NYQYUIL.

Just because the guys now are more athletic doesnt mean shyt, the matches are so fukking boring that nobody watches weekly TV anymore.

 

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I dont buy this. Use the network brehs. Wrestling today is slower paced and way more boring. You got matches on Raw with multiple commercial breaks. Look at 97-99 Raw episodes and barely ANY match is longer than 1 segment. This led to guys having to speed shyt up. Dudes would be getting piledriven 2 minutes in, getting to the finish ASAP. Nowadays you got rest holds all day and all this boring shyt. Same with the PPVs. The shows are 5 hours long. Nowadays if you watch a PPV it is literal NYQYUIL.

Just because the guys now are more athletic doesnt mean shyt, the matches are so fukking boring that nobody watches weekly TV anymore.

You'd think after 20 years that people would realize the Attitude Era was an aberration, not the norm or how wrestling normally is or has been. That specific style only worked well for about 2 years and then everything fell off. Literally any time that style of booking has been attempted since, it's failed. Including in WWE.

Looking to the Attitude Era as why something worked and should work again is like looking at Jerry Springer for examples of what works in 2018.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

I don't know why people keep bringing up Bruno and Hogan's reigns. They might not have showed up on TV but they were still wrestling 5 to 7 times a week.

Even at those Primetime and Superstars tapings, Hogan would wrestle in post show dark matches. This Brock situation is unprecedented and the crazy thing is Vince was crazy enough to do the same scenario twice..

 

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I don't know why people keep bringing up Bruno and Hogan's reigns. They might not have showed up on TV but they were still wrestling 5 to 7 times a week.

Even at those Primetime and Superstars tapings, Hogan would wrestle in post show dark matches. This Brock situation is unprecedented and the crazy thing is Vince was crazy enough to do the same scenario twice..

Brock's been significantly more active during this reign than last one. He had 3 matches his entire reign from Summerslam 2014 to WM. Since winning at WM 33, he's had 11 matches, over half of which were at house shows.

 

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You'd think after 20 years that people would realize the Attitude Era was an aberration, not the norm or how wrestling normally is or has been. That specific style only worked well for about 2 years and then everything fell off. Literally any time that style of booking has been attempted since, it's failed. Including in WWE.

Looking to the Attitude Era as why something worked and should work again is like looking at Jerry Springer for examples of what works in 2018.

Wrestling before the attitude era was filled with corny gimmicks. after the attitude era it was wack too. And the reason why attempts to copy the success of that era failed is because they dont have the proper people in creative and they 100 percent lack the star power of that era. Sami Zayn aint shyt breh.

Regardless, i was just mentioning match length. They rarely had matches last more than 1 segment. Commercial breaks in between matches kill suspension of disbelief and also shows the match is gonna go on for 20 damn minutes. Way too damn long breh. Only main events of PPVs should be going 20 minutes. The trend of the last 10 years has been going toward longer matches. So throwing everything else aside....longer matches = lower ratings. This is the worst era for their TV since god knows how long. Even hardcore fans are bored ( i dont even know how yall still watch TBH).

 

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Longer matches = lower ratings is the dumbest bottom line of logic lmao

 

[Reality Check]

Off Topic, but how come it took 20 years for wrestling to return to United Center? After WCW was bought, it's surprising that any Chicago shows/PPVs were not held there.

 

[Capitol]

Its dumb to me that a dude like Kane can go from unstoppable monster to getting squashed in 30 seconds. How do you ever allow it to get to this point

 

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Its dumb to me that a dude like Kane can go from unstoppable monster to getting squashed in 30 seconds. How do you ever allow it to get to this point

Andre lost to Warrior in 30 seconds (and often less) at house shows for nearly 5 months straight