Chicago Crime Tracking Thread

[Astroslik]

What does this mean? That shyt dumb expensive or low supply? You just mean in Illinois? Cabela a no go?

Both breh. Dumb expensive and extremely low supply. There’s a nationwide ammo shortage.

 

[JackRoss]

Both breh. Dumb expensive and extremely low supply. There’s a nationwide ammo shortage.

Covid?

Get a gun with no bullets

My FOID been under review for a minute. I might try to buy a damn machete

 

[JackRoss]

The crime in Chicago was even worse during the Capone era dummy - you are ignorant as fuk
https://wgntv.com/news/cover-story/...ibutes-to-an-epidemic-of-violence-in-chicago/


Have you ever stopped to wonder: how did we get to this point?

Let’s go back in time to 1957, when 296 people were murdered in Chicago. The number rose steadily until 1965, when there were 395 murders. That number exploded the following year to 510, spiking by 29 percent.
violence.

“Chicago has always been economically, ethnically and racially segregated,” Lindberg said.

Lindberg said he thinks Chicago hit a turning point in 1960. Black homeowners watched the city pour money into the downtown area over their neighborhoods. They found themselves with fewer resources, or fell victim to housing discrimination.

“This started in the late 1960s when a lot of store owners in the Woodlawn neighborhood were terrorized. They had to pay large amounts of extortion, sooner or later they moved out,” Lindberg said.

Once-thriving neighborhood factories moved elsewhere, taking their jobs with them. Unemployment rates soared.

The quality of schools dropped. The jobless and directionless often turned to gangs and drugs.

Yes woman. I know these things. You aren't schooling me on shyt. Stop being upset with me because I care about me and my people more than I care about carjackers and murders. I have pity and I care but not that damn much. This generation is lost. I'll care next time

 

[Bossino]

Community and Amerikkka are cooked, I'm doing my due diligence and looking elsewhere

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Biden need to come through with a Crime Bill Reboot

 

[Rawtid]

Lessons need to be learned. You trying too hard right now. I've never proclaimed to be better. Thieves get what they get. A hot one or death

These nikkas will rape your grandmother on her way to church and steal her pocket change. Some just can’t be helped.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

That’s why I moved to NYC

working remote in the city for now though.

What hood you live in NyC?

 

[UberEatsDriver]

One solution. Raise your kids better. Why the black community wants the government to step in so bad is clueless to me

 

[JackRoss]

One solution. Raise your kids better. Why the black community wants the government to step in so bad is clueless to me

The government is involved in letting kids like this out with a slap on the wrist. Why wouldn't I involve them? The government is doing a really shytty when kids can cut off their EM's and commit worse crime. Do you really know what's going on out here? fukk Kim Foxx

"Raise your kids better" is just lip service at this point.

 

[JackRoss]

These nikkas will rape your grandmother on her way to church and steal her pocket change. Some just can’t be helped.

I'm done with them

 

[EndDomination]

my position is clear.. Help the youth that want to be helped.. Lock away the ones that seeks to impede that progress..

Its actually real simple.. It just seems like people believe they can help every single troubled youth.. And the fact is, some like being fcked up.

You've not said anything to make your position clear at all.

It's not about "want" anyone who even suggests that has never actually implemented anything with a youth population. You develop a universal program for all, and stop pretending that hard-headed 15-year-olds are somehow moral failures.

You do universal programs because there's no other way to do it.

Diversion programs are for the teenagers you're talking about that "want to be fukked up."

Your name is "wild hundreds" - so you're familiar with CYP, right?

 

[Rawtid]

It would solve the majority of the issues. I'm not sure what you're positing here?

Do education expansion, access to jobs, mental health service availability, and alternatives to incarceration dramatically lower crime rates, violence and gun deaths?

Yes.

The point is to fix the parent and the child. That's quite literally the point.

Yeah for "regular" people. This is a whole new breed we are dealing with. I feel the only things that will work are out of the box solutions, such as paying daily for work. If people can sign up to do jobs around the city (demo, repair, street cleaning, etc) and get paid that same day, I think it would make legal work much more attractive. The big draw for crime is not only cash, but the ability to get cash daily...and that's a big deal when you're poor.

People may say "Well what about taxes?" they weren't paying taxes on crime money and destroying the city at the same time. At least their actions benefit the city with a similar outcome.

 

[Wildhundreds]

You've not said anything to make your position clear at all.

It's not about "want" anyone who even suggests that has never actually implemented anything with a youth population. You develop a universal program for all, and stop pretending that hard-headed 15-year-olds are somehow moral failures.

You do universal programs because there's no other way to do it.

Diversion programs are for the teenagers you're talking about that "want to be fukked up."

Your name is "wild hundreds" - so you're familiar with CYP, right?

the mission. Im very aware..

Listen, I was born and raised on the Southside of Chicago. Never left.. My family dealing with kids range from early childhood development to H.S teachers.

You must run a non for profit where you're getting government funding helping troubled youth.. Its no way you can be this naive about kids..

 

[EndDomination]

Honest question. Are there any cities as case studies that have shown that these strategies are actually effective?
In my mind, I'm kind of skeptical as to how educational expansion helps a group of people that don't value education.
Or mental health services to a people who don't think anything is wrong with them?

AG Kim Foxx has been providing alternatives to incarceration and it appears that the reverse is happening - crime is skyrocketing because criminals are taking advantage of the fact that there will be less severe penalties.

I'm skeptical of even access to jobs. Most of these youth come from homes where adults have jobs.
Let say if we did expand access to low skilled jobs with low barriers to entry, with everything that comes with your typical low skilled job, is that enough of an incentive that would even attract this group, who have gotten accustomed to fast illegal money?

I know that we've gotten use to hearing that expanding these resources will reduce crime, however, there is a deep psychological piece that I'm not sure is being addressed by these solutions. Again, expanding mental health options work only if you admit to having problems with your mental health.

There are. They've never been implemented in a robust way together - because local, city, state, and federal governments have the same foolish mindset you'll find pretty much anywhere else - crime skyrocketing because of "leniency" has never been a thing, nor will it ever be a thing, because there has not been a lenient period - the U.S. has only become more punitive and more carceral since the 1940s - hence why there's such a massive chunk of the population under state supervision.

As for the data:

Literacy programs reducing crime rates:
https://www.decaloguesociety.org/as... - Reading and Writing Reduces Recidivism.pdf
https://www.decaloguesociety.org/as... - Reading and Writing Reduces Recidivism.pdf

Mental health services and lower crime rates:
New evidence that access to health care reduces crime
https://econ.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/681/2019/10/mh_crime_paper_10_1_2019.pdf

Jobs for young people and adults reducing crime:
https://www.povertyactionlab.org/blog/8-8-17/more-jobs-less-crime
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/grants/251101.pdf
Internationally: https://blogs.worldbank.org/latinamerica/can-temporary-employment-help-reduce-crime
https://izajodm.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40176-017-0101-7

How race leads people to push for my punitive punishments:
https://www.sentencingproject.org/p...s-of-crime-and-support-for-punitive-policies/

Geography, zoning, and crime rates:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w19843

I'll edit this post later today, to pull pertinent quotes.

 

[EndDomination]

Yeah for "regular" people. This is a whole new breed we are dealing with. I feel the only things that will work are out of the box solutions, such as paying daily for work. If people can sign up to do jobs around the city (demo, repair, street cleaning, etc) and get paid that same day, I think it would make legal work much more attractive. The big draw for crime is not only cash, but the ability to get cash daily...and that's a big deal when you're poor.

People may say "Well what about taxes?" they weren't paying taxes on crime money and destroying the city at the same time. At least their actions benefit the city with a similar outcome.

Superpredators aren't real.