Chicago Bakery labor issues pits blacks vs Hispanics

[DEAD7]

14/hr in Chicago... What part of black emporwarment is that.


Weren't you and @DEAD7 saying that was too much?

You greatly underestimate the importance of those bottom rungs in the ladder.
If those at the bottom had the skills to earn more trust me they would.



Do left leaning negroes not believe in economic mobility and human capital?
Do you really think we can just jump into the economy at the top without having to work our way up from our current station at the bottom?

Hispanic median household incomes continue to rise and have passed blacks and you here saying we don’t need those jobs let Mexicans have them...

Jesus...

 

[Dr. Acula]

Somewhere a white man is reading this with the face If blacks and latinos were smarter, they would unify and strike. Have to go hungry for a few weeks/months but in the end they will know not to f*ck with you. Shout out to the mechanics of all races, colors, and creeds who unified to strike in Chicago a year ago, bakery workers should learn from them

I'm not so sure this is a divide and conquer strategy, at least from a corporation perspective. Probably brings joy to outsider whites who enjoy the conflict. But corporations such as this have a pretty clear side and that is illegal labor they can exploit in order to pay lower wages, no benefits, and not follow labor laws. Divide and conquer is used to usually destroy two enemies. For corporations, the only enemy is the American worker who demands better working conditions.

There is a dynamic here that I think organizing around would be very hard given these are illegal workers. First, they are here because they can be paid a lower wage or else they wouldn't hire them in the first place. Secondly, this is the danger of being an illegal worker in that you are really at the mercy of corporate bosses who have the Sword of Damocles of immigration status hanging over your head at all times. The first sign of trouble, ICE is called and you're out of here. I've read a few stories of people in unions expressing this as a way of union busting in that illegal workers know better to unionize because otherwise they will be booted. As the workforce is slowly replaced with illegals, the dues coming into a union decrease and membership decrease effectively giving it a slow death.

 

[theworldismine13]

Somewhere a white man is reading this with the face If blacks and latinos were smarter, they would unify and strike. Have to go hungry for a few weeks/months but in the end they will know not to f*ck with you. Shout out to the mechanics of all races, colors, and creeds who unified to strike in Chicago a year ago, bakery workers should learn from them

Black people cannot unite with racist people

Most “latinos” come from countries that have a longer history of anti black racism than the United States, African slavery and white supremacy in the Western Hemisphere began in Latin America and for the most part the black people in Latin America are at the bottom

Why would the anti black racism in Latin American culture magically stop when they come to the US?

 

[blackzeus]

Black people cannot unite with racist people

Most “latinos” come from countries that have a longer history of anti black racism than the United States, African slavery and white supremacy in the Western Hemisphere began in Latin America and for the most part the black people in Latin America are at the bottom

Why would the anti black racism in Latin American culture magically stop when they come to the US?

The mechanics did it, black and latino and white and asian all together, don't see no reason why the bakery brehs can't do it

 

[Pressure]

You greatly underestimate the importance of those bottom rungs in the ladder.
If those at the bottom had the skills to earn more trust me they would.



Do left leaning negroes not believe in economic mobility and human capital?
Do you really think we can just jump into the economy at the top without having to work our way up from our current station at the bottom?

Hispanic median household incomes continue to rise and have passed blacks and you here saying we don’t need those jobs let Mexicans have them...

Jesus...

If you're always fighting for the bottom you will remain at the bottom. 14/hr in chicago isn't going to provide you with the time or resources to move ahead, especially if you have a family.

Work is better than no work even if it means you'll be stuck in poverty i guess.

 

[Pressure]

This is what I mean, this post is just tap dancing around the fact that illegal immigrants are stealing jobs from black people and that Democratic Party policies to encourage illegal immigration and to grant amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens would have devastating consequences on the black community

What's the problem?

Illegal immigrants are paid less than legal workers. No one has disagreed with that. Businesses who hire illegal immigrants should be held accountable.

If you provided amnesty to illegal immigrants you'd be forced to pay them the same wages as other legal workers.

Be a fukking idiot who talks too much and gets worked up over mexicans because your mexican girlfriend's family didn't accept your c00n ass.

 

[theworldismine13]

What's the problem?

Illegal immigrants are paid less than legal workers. No one has disagreed with that. Businesses who hire illegal immigrants should be held accountable.

If you provided amnesty to illegal immigrants you'd be forced to pay them the same wages as other legal workers.

Be a fukking idiot who talks too much and gets worked up over mexicans because your mexican girlfriend's family didn't accept your c00n ass.

This isn’t about how much illegal immigrants get paid it’s about them having jobs that should be going to other people

Granting amnesty will not end illegal immigration, granting amnesty will increase illegal immigration and also it will increase by 11 million the labor pool which means increase competition for fewer jobs. There is no way that black people, the demo with the least education and skills, highest unemployment rate and highest victims of racism come out on top under that Latin American invasion envisioned by the democratic party

There is no bigger c00n then you, you remember when you were writing essays about how you didn’t care about black high school dropouts and how black prople that compete with illegals are losers.....here in this story are the losers you were talking about, hard working black people from poor neighborhoods in Chicago with little education that are simply looking for jobs

This story has exposed you for the elitist cretin that you are

 

[Pressure]

This isn’t about how much illegal immigrants get paid it’s about them having jobs that should be going to other people

Granting amnesty will not end illegal immigration, granting amnesty will increase illegal immigration and also it will increase by 11 million the labor pool which means increase competition for fewer jobs

There is no bigger c00n then you, you remember when you were writing essays about how you didn’t care about black high school dropouts and how black prople that compete with illegals are losers.....here in this story are the loser you were talking about, hard working black people from poor neighborhoods in Chicago with little education that are simply looking for jobs

This story has exposed you for the elitist cretin that you are

What's the problem?

This story is exactly how I said illegal immigration should be curbed.

It is also how it said is a more prudent method of filling jobs for Americans and legal workers.

But considering my major concern is the wealth gap between blacks and whites this story isn't even step 1 in addressing that issue.

Imagine a self respecting black man criticizing a black man for wanting blacks to aspire to be more than min wage workers.

That being said, you've seemingly missed the major point of the article because you are an idiot.

And no, I'm not here to coddle high school dropouts. There isn't much for a black person in this country who doesn't finish their primary education.

 

[theworldismine13]

What's the problem?

This story is exactly how I said illegal immigration should be curbed.

It is also how it said is a more prudent method of filling jobs for Americans and legal workers.

But considering my major concern is the wealth gap between blacks and whites this story isn't even step 1 in addressing that issue.

Imagine a self respecting black man criticizing a black man for wanting blacks to aspire to be more than min wage workers.

That being said, you've seemingly missed the major point of the article because you are an idiot.

And no, I'm not here to coddle high school dropouts. There isn't much for a black person in this country who doesn't finish their primary education.

The problem is you referring to black people in poor neighbohoods looking for a job as losers because they compete with illegal immigrants

People don’t magically become educated and get high paying jobs, for black people with little education and low skills minumum wage jobs and factory jobs are the key to growth

Yes, you are more concerened about the plight of illegal immigrants than the plight of black high school dropouts. This is black liberalism at it’s finest.

Nothing else needs to be said

 

[Pressure]

The problem is you referring to black people in poor neighbohoods looking for a job as losers because they compete with illegal immigrants

People don’t magically become educated and get high paying jobs, for black people with little education and low skills minumum wage jobs and factory jobs are the key to growth

Yes, you are more concerened about the plight of illegal immigrants than the plight of black high school dropouts. This is black liberalism at it finest.

Nothing else needs to be said

No, you keep running the false narrative that employment starts with min wage jobs then you eventually move up to more lucrative jobs but in reality that's not how it works because min wage jobs aren't offering the training or skillets for well paying jobs. That's why education is important.

And people don't magically become educated. They do so by taking education seriously. Similarly with developing desirable skills.

As someone who grew up poor in north Charlotte. I'm more than aware of the dynamics at play.

And honestly, I don't spend much time thinking about illegal immigrants because I'm not in competition with them in this race to the bottom that you're encouraging or are obsessed with.

But if you'd like to know what I spend time with I'll give you a hint:

I'm currently working with 3 men who have been working low paying IT jobs who need advice on how to move their career forward because the people over them are offering them the training and hands on experience needed to move up. Largely because they want to keep them where they are.

I've also been a part of big brothers big sisters and have coached through PAL.

I spend a lot of my time actually helping folks. Black folks. Because I grew up poor I can relate and I've had the chance to navigate to a better life.


You spend your time being a sex tourists in Mexico and spouting republican garbage.

 

[Reece]

There's nothing to discuss. What ICE did is what HL has been saying is the proper course of action:

Target businesses that are hiring illegal immigrants.

But y'all said that wasn't adequate and what we actually needed was roving deportation forces and a big beautiful wall. :Cookoutcam2:

Why are you so pressed to defend Illegal Immigration? I'm not seeing the upside for a black poster to do so. They call us ******, they think they're better than us, their criminals shoot at our women, children and elderly and they take jobs away from blacks that are struggling and on the lower end of the economic ladder. Not seeing how you can be a Black person and twist your mouth to defend them. Are you Hispanic?

 

[Pressure]

Why are you so pressed to defend Illegal Immigration? I'm not seeing the upside for a black poster to do so. They call us ******, they think they're better than us, their criminals shoot at our women, children and elderly and they take jobs away from blacks that are struggling and on the lower end of the economic ladder. Not seeing how you can be a Black person and twist your mouth to defend them. Are you Hispanic?

Who's defending it?

The post you quoted says we should target businesses who hire illegal immigrants since the reason they come is because they can find employment.

Are you an idiot?

You sound like a cac.

Hold this neg.

 

[theworldismine13]

No, you keep running the false narrative that employment starts with min wage jobs then you eventually move up to more lucrative jobs but in reality that's not how it works because min wage jobs aren't offering the training or skillets for well paying jobs. That's why education is important.

And people don't magically become educated. They do so by taking education seriously. Similarly with developing desirable skills.

As someone who grew up poor in north Charlotte. I'm more than aware of the dynamics at play.

And honestly, I don't spend much time thinking about illegal immigrants because I'm not in competition with them in this race to the bottom that you're encouraging or are obsessed with.

But if you'd like to know what I spend time with I'll give you a hint:

I'm currently working with 3 men who have been working low paying IT jobs who need advice on how to move their career forward because the people over them are offering them the training and hands on experience needed to move up. Largely because they want to keep them where they are.

I've also been a part of big brothers big sisters and have coached through PAL.

I spend a lot of my time actually helping folks. Black folks. Because I grew up poor I can relate and I've had the chance to navigate to a better life.


You spend your time being a sex tourists in Mexico and spouting republican garbage.

If you have little education and little skills, a situation black people in poor neighborhoods find themselves in for myriad of reasons, the low paying jobs are were you start, in fact minimum wage jobs is where everybody starts

All I said is that people with low skills and low education have to start with low paying jobs, there is nothing in what I’m saying that would stop people from moving to higher paying jobs, in fact my whole point is that people eventually move to higher paying jobs

The scoffing at low paying jobs is nutty and delusional

Well thank you for sharing your life story, that was fascinating but anyways your problem is that like a lot of black people, poor and middle class you became hooked on liberalism and a lot of black liberals such as yourself are unable to separate black interests from DNC interests, that’s your real problem

There is no reason for black prople to support massive immigration from Latin America or Europe for that matter, only brainwashed black liberals support that

But the bottom line is that everybody starts at the bottom, so scoffing at low paying jobs is stupid if you are black, we have to deal with the reality that we are at the bottom

I understand it makes you feel good to discuss 6 certs and 6 figs, but that’s just a running joke in an internet message board, it’s not real life, real life is the people in the story, where factory jobs are the key for them moving up or staying afloat

 

[Reece]

Who's defending it?

The post you quoted says we should target businesses who hire illegal immigrants since the reason they come is because they can find employment.

Are you an idiot?

You sound like a cac.

Hold this neg.

If everybody in a town got cancer, do you cure each person as they get sick or figure out what's causing the cancer? Take as long as you need to answer smart dumb nikka The jobs don't come before the illegal immigrants. The mere presence of illegal immigrants creates the downward wage pressure for blue collar workers because there will always be firms that are willing to skirt the law and hire them under the table. You fix that by eliminating illegal immigrants.

No self respecting Black man defends Hispanics this much. You fukking fakkit. Neg right back bytch nikka.

 

[theworldismine13]

Who's defending it?

The post you quoted says we should target businesses who hire illegal immigrants since the reason they come is because they can find employment.

Are you an idiot?

You sound like a cac.

Hold this neg.

Don’t try to front, you have written enough essays on the subject of illegal immigration that they could be collected and printed up in book form