Charli Baltimore talks about Biggie after 2pac passed

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something alot of of nikkas who are of the "Biggie didnt do anything"
"wHaT dID bIgGie dO" camp also overlook and a league of other things as mentioned by people prior in here. in how he played into this mess.
Im a NYC nikka. Born and raised. And I can be objective about this shyt. It's not hard once u examine the damn facts. But again. Here we are.
 

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Pac beat up a known killer and paid the consequence. What happened to pac had nothing to do with Biggie
Ok. And Biggie's death wasn't Pac's fault either. Did he not come out to LA in the middle of a gang war running around with the set that murdered Pac and dissing him post mortem on the radio?
 

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The fact you can’t be objective is crazy. You have pac fans in this thread admitting Pac did things wrong. But Biggie fans just cannot fathom that their hero moved funny too. Big wasn’t innocent.
Im a NYC nikka. Born and raised. And I can be objective about this shyt. It's not hard once u examine the damn facts. But again. Here we are.
at this point, its clear looking at past threads and interactions. nikkas aint trying to have a clear dialogue to discuss what has been laid out to everyone on that saga in hip hop history.

Instead you got a bunch of Biggie stans, NYers, and pac detractors(who will just side with anything to demean Pac, who alot of times is just Biggie stans, and NYers) who want to roll with the same one sided pro-Biggie camp storyline cause it fits their fancy.

I dont want to hear shyt from any of these nikkas on "Pac stans" because these nikkas are just as bad and bias as the stans they critique. if not more bias and ignorant
 
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Look bro. Do I feel Pac moved correctly the whole time? Nope. But I’m tired of people ignoring shyt Biggie did as well like it was just some one sided shyt, remember the first shots came from Biggie side and this is before Hit Em Up and all that shyt. These is documented facts that people conveniently ignore but that’s cool it’s whatever. It’s the simple thing to do to shyt on Pac and ignore all the LYING the people on Biggie side been doing for like 25 years now.

So Pac, being dead for 6 months. Caused Biggie to go to LA, ride around with the Crips that killed Pac. And diss him post mortem on the radio? Pac is the one who sent Crips to take Death Row chains? Creating a whole domino effect with the gangs and streets of LA? Hmm…

first shot came from death row.. source awards..

puff even asked suge at the after party... n suge said he was dissing jermaine dupri...

big jake gets out suge ...takes em to Atlanta.. to guess who...jermaine dupri's birthday party...

jake drunk.. n gets into it with wolf...suge could have stopped that

suge blames puff for something that didn't have shyt to do with him... yet suge was in the mix the whole time...

red eyed back to compton...to put his side of the situation..about why n how jake got killed..

vs staying behind by his potnas side..

so it was on on sight in the streets if diddy came...why not get with the rivals...had nothin 2 do with biggie..

diddy had a death row chain...motorola flare that belonged to somebody on death row n his wallet...funny somehow someway.. his chain wallet..phone all got back to his people...

how do we know lkg is about pac..jus because he said I ain't mad at cha.....big said his name in jays song.. why be subliminal on that I call bullshyt

only other rapper he had beef was..

ghost was shot....ghost had a seed



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as usual, here is this dumb nikka at it again, with the half ass facts. to push his agenda.:mjlol:

Biggies death is his own fatass fault and Puffs.

Plus as someone said in this thread, The MF cant act like he didnt know how nikkas give it up in Cali. he already had his situation with E-40.

not surprised that the usual suspects who take the usual stupid stances like you dapped you either.:russell:

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it was written :steviej:
 

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Him being low on money is the reason why he was 'disciplined' though. He was demanding Jimmy pay him in cash for the feature because he was hemorrhaging money due to legal fees. Keep in mind he ain't the only person he gotta pay the way for at this juncture, he needed some bread BEFORE shyt popped off, let alone after.
Small correction.. the real root of puffy big and Pac beef died with them.. Pac even said the real issues between him and big was personal and “only he(biggie) knows” what it’s all about and even big in his last tv interview said “a personal beef” sparked a two whole coast to go at each other.. Pac was speaking the real and he was right when he said he “owed me more than to turn his head and act like he ain’t know nikkas was about to blow my head off..he knew”.. everything they did was sneaky.. from titling the album life after death (pacs death) to even the song Victory (they won the beef). Here’s a jewel for you…People don’t know it’s two versions of who shot ya.. the original one and then a re-recorded one which is the one they put out to mock his shooting…
 

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BIG was on some "haha...fukk that nikka" shyt after Pac died and I don't blame him. Pac was SUPER violating him.

This. Hell to this day, you got some Pac stans and West Coast nikkas being on some “well guess where BIG died at? Oh yeah…” type of shyt but they stay getting on BIG for sneak dissing and riding for Pac violating a former friend who ain’t had shyt to do with his ass getting set up in the studio :mjlol: Goofy ass bammas.
 

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All the disrespect simply wasn’t warranted
This I agree with Pac went to far
Small correction.. the real root of puffy big and Pac beef died with them.. Pac even said the real issues between him and big was personal and “only he(biggie) knows” what it’s all about and even big in his last tv interview said “a personal beef” sparked a two whole coast to go at each other.. Pac was speaking the real and he was right when he said he “owed me more than to turn his head and act like he ain’t know nikkas was about to blow my head off..he knew”.. everything they did was sneaky.. from titling the album life after death (pacs death) to even the song Victory (they won the beef). Here’s a jewel for you…People don’t know it’s two versions of who shot ya.. the original one and then a re-recorded one which is the one they put out to mock his shooting…
That whole album was a Pac diss. You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills you, Going Back to Cali, Long Kiss, Notorious Thugs, What's Beef, etc.. They moved sneakily throughout the entire beef. Did Pac go overboard with the insults.. probably.. but to sit and act like Big is an angel is just straight up false.
 

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“Biggie’s death was PAC’s fault” y’all say…


Right. Because Pac came back from the grave and forced Biggie to hang out I’m the middle of LA for weeks 6 months after his death like shyt was sweet then diss him on the radio.
 

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There’s a distinction that can be made between a victim and a bystander


I feel like Biggie was a little bit of both in this situation …

Tupac was a tremendously gifted art school kid turned entertainer who knew enough about entertainment and PR to use Biggie as a some type of prop for the story he wanted to leave behind


Always watch out for them theatrical muhhfukkas, they don’t really think much about getting into it like that and they may be a little more conditioned for it then you might think since they actually do go to that place during their acting … not hard to access it when needed
 

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This I agree with Pac went to far

That whole album was a Pac diss. You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills you, Going Back to Cali, Long Kiss, Notorious Thugs, What's Beef, etc.. They moved sneakily throughout the entire beef. Did Pac go overboard with the insults.. probably.. but to sit and act like Big is an angel is just straight up false.
Thing Is though.. a lot of that shyt was getting handled in the streets.. biggie knew what it was.. when your ex friend down with dudes that want you dead.. you can’t go far enough unless you kill them nikkas..big just wasn’t as street smart as dudes think.. he wanted people to think he was behind that Vegas hit saying shyt like “look what you made ME do..MY team in the marine blue” said all that shyt on the radio thinking shyt was sweet only to get bodied the same night…talk about a self own.
 

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Somebody in here said something about titling the album Life After Death being a diss to Tupac … or a diss to death itself :mjlol:

like the debut album wasn’t titled Ready to Die

:russ:


some Tupac fans are so vain …. They probably think this post is about them


But anyway, I’ve done the debates before and all the Coli’s most conclusive debate we concluded through thorough examination of the criteria … Tupac is the greatest rapper of all-time, and has the most valuable catalog in the genre by solid increment
 
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