itsyoung!!
Veteran
Plus the stadium is in a hard to get to area. If UCSF / hospital not allowing parking then parking sucks. Oracle was great because it had actual arena parking lot
Charles Barkley: Oakland is 10x better than San Francisco easily. San Francisco is the armpit of America!!
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Checkgamematch
Pro
San Francisco is boring It's compared to miami. Nightlife is mid. Barely any black culture
Premeditated
MANDE KANG
from an aesthetical point of view, Frisco is objectively one of, if not the most beautiful big city in America. hill, architects, sun, a central park thats even bigger than THE Central Park.
but it's boring at night compared to Oakland
South Berkely-downtown Oakland nightlife>>
but it's boring at night compared to Oakland
South Berkely-downtown Oakland nightlife>>
Spacejam23
Rookie
I don't know you but how's your community and village like in LA do you have a lot of family and friends and support or would you say more dc?
As a fellow Alabamian, calling SF the armpit of the country is wild. That single city has a greater contribution to America than Alabama [and several southern states] as a whole has had post-Civil Rights.
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
Like what?
titusville... man sayLeft Birmingham to move to SoCal. North bham, Fairfield, ensley, Titusville look considerably worse than Compton
murksiderock
Superstar
This is false, I used to believe it. Then I traveled and lived all over the country and realized Sacramento shyts on most places...Sac ain't nothing special if you lived in other parts of the county
Kendrick not lying...women weed and weather is what you paying for...thats it and that's all
nikkas can get on flights and fly a cali broad to where they at in 2024 lol
Its like the 5th biggest city in California but would be the biggest or second biggest city in all but like 3 states, if it wasnt in California. Being in California is what enables comments like yours, if it was in Michigan its shine would be brighter...
The percentage isnt as relevant as the actual size of the community...
Oakland's black population peaked in 1990 with 163.5k black people (44%). 1980 was Oakland's peak percentage at 47% (159.4k population). It's 2025, we are in three and a half decades of black decline in Oakland, just sticking to Census numbers, as of 2020, Oakland has lost 56% of its 1990 black population...
This massive loss in black community is evident across the socioeconomic sphere of Oakland, but you wanna talk pulse of a city
...By contrast and as a point of comparison, Sacramento's peak percentage was in 2000 (15.5%); in 1980 there were 32.8k black people in Sac. I was born in '89, the Sac I was born into had 45.8k black people in the '90 Census. In the same 1990 to 2020 span that Black Oakland has lost 56% of its community, Black Sac has grown by 44%...
The same negative impact the decline has had on Oakland culturally, it's had the same positive impact on Sac culturally. Sacramento is a historically super white city, this much is established. But what it's never been, is a suburb, which is EXACTLY what Oakland is------>when my paternal family ended up in Sobrante Park and Havenscourt in 1959 and '60, they were among the first black families moving from The City into Oakland, which, if we're being factual instead of hyperbolic, Oakland's black history is recent history. Not as recent as Sac, but you don't have to go back too far to when Oakland was lily white as well...
Sac has always been the major city of the Central Valley and as California has grown in size and influence, so too has Sacramento, and its growing in an era that the other California cities are losing influence. People are coming to Sacramento from all over, not simply from The Bay, though pf course its the cheaper alternative to The Bay...
It may not be a "mecca" but the businesses, events, and community catering to Black Sacramentans today, didnt always exist, largely didnt even exist pre-2010 in ,any cases. Its a wonderful time to be black in Sacramento, relattive to any prior era, and certainly relative to currently being black in San Fran and Oakland. In Sacramento we actually have a black middle class, owning a home is still attainable, we have safer black communities, less wage inequality, etc...
Virginia is dope if you're in one of the larger cities. Im not really educated on politics so i cant speak towards that but NoVa is wack, youd rather be in DC than its suburbs if you're thay close. Richmond and Virginia Beach are awesome cities, but you know this Dora, every place has its drawbacks. You tend to be more critical of California because you're more emotionally connected to it. People who are from DC aresuper critical of it, because the DC of 2025 also isn't the same "Chocolate City" it was 20+ years ago...
If I'm ranking your relo list, I go 1 LA 2 Dallas 3 DC and Atlanta is a distant 4th. But I completely understand its about the village YOU have. Atlanta so fukking trash to me, it wouldnt be on any list for me. I love DC but its too far away from where i have any family...
Are you guys a few years out or are you looking to move next year?
Youre full of shyt, people commute in public transpo in SF all the time.
RiverCity916
South Sacramento
This is false, I used to believe it. Then I traveled and lived all over the country and realized Sacramento shyts on most places...
Its like the 5th biggest city in California but would be the biggest or second biggest city in all but like 3 states, if it wasnt in California. Being in California is what enables comments like yours, if it was in Michigan its shine would be brighter...
The percentage isnt as relevant as the actual size of the community...
Oakland's black population peaked in 1990 with 163.5k black people (44%). 1980 was Oakland's peak percentage at 47% (159.4k population). It's 2025, we are in three and a half decades of black decline in Oakland, just sticking to Census numbers, as of 2020, Oakland has lost 56% of its 1990 black population...
This massive loss in black community is evident across the socioeconomic sphere of Oakland, but you wanna talk pulse of a city
By contrast and as a point of comparison, Sacramento's peak percentage was in 2000 (15.5%); in 1980 there were 32.8k black people in Sac. I was born in '89, the Sac I was born into had 45.8k black people in the '90 Census. In the same 1990 to 2020 span that Black Oakland has lost 56% of its community, Black Sac has grown by 44%...
The same negative impact the decline has had on Oakland culturally, it's had the same positive impact on Sac culturally. Sacramento is a historically super white city, this much is established. But what it's never been, is a suburb, which is EXACTLY what Oakland is------>when my paternal family ended up in Sobrante Park and Havenscourt in 1959 and '60, they were among the first black families moving from The City into Oakland, which, if we're being factual instead of hyperbolic, Oakland's black history is recent history. Not as recent as Sac, but you don't have to go back too far to when Oakland was lily white as well...
Sac has always been the major city of the Central Valley and as California has grown in size and influence, so too has Sacramento, and its growing in an era that the other California cities are losing influence. People are coming to Sacramento from all over, not simply from The Bay, though pf course its the cheaper alternative to The Bay...
It may not be a "mecca" but the businesses, events, and community catering to Black Sacramentans today, didnt always exist, largely didnt even exist pre-2010 in ,any cases. Its a wonderful time to be black in Sacramento, relattive to any prior era, and certainly relative to currently being black in San Fran and Oakland. In Sacramento we actually have a black middle class, owning a home is still attainable, we have safer black communities, less wage inequality, etc...
Virginia is dope if you're in one of the larger cities. Im not really educated on politics so i cant speak towards that but NoVa is wack, youd rather be in DC than its suburbs if you're thay close. Richmond and Virginia Beach are awesome cities, but you know this Dora, every place has its drawbacks. You tend to be more critical of California because you're more emotionally connected to it. People who are from DC aresuper critical of it, because the DC of 2025 also isn't the same "Chocolate City" it was 20+ years ago...
If I'm ranking your relo list, I go 1 LA 2 Dallas 3 DC and Atlanta is a distant 4th. But I completely understand its about the village YOU have. Atlanta so fukking trash to me, it wouldnt be on any list for me. I love DC but its too far away from where i have any family...
Are you guys a few years out or are you looking to move next year?
These town nikkas get in their feelings when you talk about Sac on the net. I rarely heard this shyt talking in real life
Got a chick who lives in the Oakland and works in San Fran makes ‘six figures’ at this big high rise big company
She was FaceTiming me walking from work it was just chaos around: homeless people, shyt on the floor, background looked kinda run down. I said damn Oaklnad really is struggling. She said naw I’m outside my building in San Fran
He ain’t lyin
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
You wrote way too much lol. But percentages matter, not just raw numbers, raw numbers for EVERYONE increased in sac, but a percentage lets you know how frequently you’d see a person of x-color. 11% is basically one black person every 10 people where as some place 25% black is one every 4 people, even if fewer total blacks, they’re seen more prominentlyThis is false, I used to believe it. Then I traveled and lived all over the country and realized Sacramento shyts on most places...
Its like the 5th biggest city in California but would be the biggest or second biggest city in all but like 3 states, if it wasnt in California. Being in California is what enables comments like yours, if it was in Michigan its shine would be brighter...
The percentage isnt as relevant as the actual size of the community...
Oakland's black population peaked in 1990 with 163.5k black people (44%). 1980 was Oakland's peak percentage at 47% (159.4k population). It's 2025, we are in three and a half decades of black decline in Oakland, just sticking to Census numbers, as of 2020, Oakland has lost 56% of its 1990 black population...
This massive loss in black community is evident across the socioeconomic sphere of Oakland, but you wanna talk pulse of a city
By contrast and as a point of comparison, Sacramento's peak percentage was in 2000 (15.5%); in 1980 there were 32.8k black people in Sac. I was born in '89, the Sac I was born into had 45.8k black people in the '90 Census. In the same 1990 to 2020 span that Black Oakland has lost 56% of its community, Black Sac has grown by 44%...
The same negative impact the decline has had on Oakland culturally, it's had the same positive impact on Sac culturally. Sacramento is a historically super white city, this much is established. But what it's never been, is a suburb, which is EXACTLY what Oakland is------>when my paternal family ended up in Sobrante Park and Havenscourt in 1959 and '60, they were among the first black families moving from The City into Oakland, which, if we're being factual instead of hyperbolic, Oakland's black history is recent history. Not as recent as Sac, but you don't have to go back too far to when Oakland was lily white as well...
Sac has always been the major city of the Central Valley and as California has grown in size and influence, so too has Sacramento, and its growing in an era that the other California cities are losing influence. People are coming to Sacramento from all over, not simply from The Bay, though pf course its the cheaper alternative to The Bay...
It may not be a "mecca" but the businesses, events, and community catering to Black Sacramentans today, didnt always exist, largely didnt even exist pre-2010 in ,any cases. Its a wonderful time to be black in Sacramento, relattive to any prior era, and certainly relative to currently being black in San Fran and Oakland. In Sacramento we actually have a black middle class, owning a home is still attainable, we have safer black communities, less wage inequality, etc...
Virginia is dope if you're in one of the larger cities. Im not really educated on politics so i cant speak towards that but NoVa is wack, youd rather be in DC than its suburbs if you're thay close. Richmond and Virginia Beach are awesome cities, but you know this Dora, every place has its drawbacks. You tend to be more critical of California because you're more emotionally connected to it. People who are from DC aresuper critical of it, because the DC of 2025 also isn't the same "Chocolate City" it was 20+ years ago...
If I'm ranking your relo list, I go 1 LA 2 Dallas 3 DC and Atlanta is a distant 4th. But I completely understand its about the village YOU have. Atlanta so fukking trash to me, it wouldnt be on any list for me. I love DC but its too far away from where i have any family...
Are you guys a few years out or are you looking to move next year?
As for DC not being the city it was 20+ years ago, that’s true, but the metro is highly black and black people who left DC are still in the suburbs. Plus it has a way bigger middle/upper middle class black population. Oakland was the hub of bays black population, with some satellites in SF (mostly underclass as long as I’ve been alive), Richmond and Vallejo (both also mostly underclass blacks). Difference is in the 90’s blac people started moving fully away from the Bay, not just to other suburbs, specifically those with education and upward mobility. A lot of the black population left in the bay is struggling, and the professional blacks are spread out AF.
It’s weird how you love Cali so much and haven’t lived here in years (ie putting LA first on my list when it’s more of the same Bay Area issues just with a better night life and weather). I think your opinion would change living here vs coming back to visit. North Carolina seems way better for a black family, I just don’t know anyone out there
feelosofer
#ninergang
Oakland is one of my favorite cities to visit in Cali though so Charles isn't wrong.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Who is in their feelings or talking shyt? Sacramento is bland my guy, definitely not a city to move across the country for the way @murksiderock be trying to paint it. It’s a simple place with more affordability than the Bay, that’s all