Charles Barkley: "MLK never spoke about black rights, but about civil rights"
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All THIS.
I've even seen it happen here in The Coli. The problem is that some people equate nonviolent activism with moderation or a lack of intense commitment. They don't realize that the intense form of nonviolent activism that Dr. King practiced, that Gandhi practiced, was far MORE committed and far more opposed to the system than most of his critics were.
Also frustrating as hell that they can't differentiate lack of hatred for the enemy with lack of hatred for the enemy's evil. Dr. King refused to hate people, but he absolutely despised the evil that people did and was far more committed to rooting it out and destroying it than almost anyone else was. Even today, a lot of the people who claim to hate White people or whoever else will turn around and act just like them, or buy into their systems, without a second thought.
MLK and his leadership worked better than just about any other leader's activism in American history. The reason that it's not happening right now isn't because anyone has tried and failed. It's because most wannabe activists and internet militants realize that it is too hard, takes too much commitment, and thus they don't want to try.
Be willing to give up the system of White supremacy. Be willing to take an economic hit in order to give them an economic hit. Be willing to get beat or go to jail or get killed for the struggle. Care THAT much, and then shyt will happen.
1. “Why is equality so assiduously avoided? Why does white America delude itself, and how does it rationalize the evil it retains?
The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”
2. “I contend that the cry of “Black Power” is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we’ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard. And, what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the economic plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years.”
4. “When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”
5. “Again we have deluded ourselves into believing the myth that Capitalism grew and prospered out of the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifice. The fact is that capitalism was built on the exploitation and suffering of black slaves and continues to thrive on the exploitation of the poor – both black and white, both here and abroad.”
Comrade King
9 Radical MLK Quotes The Mainstream Media Won't Mention
6. “A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.”
—“Beyond Vietnam,” 1967
“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a similar mass effort to reeducate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn. The reality of substantial investment to assist Negroes into the twentieth century, adjusting to Negro neighbors and genuine school integration, is still a nightmare for all too many white Americans…These are the deepest causes for contemporary abrasions between the races. Loose and easy language about equality, resonant resolutions about brotherhood fall pleasantly on the ear, but for the Negro there is a credibility gap he cannot overlook. He remembers that with each modest advance the white population promptly raises the argument that the Negro has come far enough. Each step forward accents an ever-present tendency to backlash.”
— Where Do We Go From Here, 1967
7. “The problems of racial injustice and economic injustice cannot be solved without a radical redistribution of political and economic power.”
— “The Three Evils of Society,” 1967
8. “The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism.”
— Southern Christian Leadership Conference speech, 1967
9. “First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
— Letter From a Birmingham Jail, 1963
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@The Dankster Letter from Birmingham jail is one of my favorite pieces ever. There's so many layers to everything he wrote 
Brotha I will say it once and I will say it again. Folks like MLK and others knew the end game was to die, be in jail for life or die broke.....period for the betterment of everyone else.
Folks now a days aint trying to do that shyt. They may get on twitter and forums and talk that shyt but they ain't trying to do none of that stuff above.
That is why I give folks the
when they talking that crap about Dr. King. You can't even get jokers to boycott more than a day or more than one brand. Let alone be willing to be broke for they life and die for the betterment of others.Jokers ain't trying to die for their neighbors let alone folks they don't even know or who haven't been born who ain't part of their family.
Edit - And when I say the betterment of others in this post I am talking about black folks. But I know I got to spell shyt out on here or jokers will make it seem like I am on some all lives matter mess.
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Yeah I stopped giving Barkley's rhetoric the time of day. All I watch is the game and switch the channel when c00n summit starts. Kenny holds it down but not enough to watch Shaq and Barkley tap dance.
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I think you're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion chief
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We're on the blood path now
Negged. fukk you
Brotha I will say it once and I will say it again. Folks like MLK and others knew the end game was to die, be in jail for life or die broke.....period for the betterment of everyone else.
Folks now a days aint trying to do that shyt. They may get on twitter and forums and talk that shyt but they ain't trying to do none of that stuff above.
That is why I give folks the
Jokers ain't trying to die for their neighbors let alone folks they don't even know or who haven't been born who ain't part of their family.
Edit - And when I say the betterment of others in this post I am talking about black folks. But I know I got to spell shyt out on here or jokers will make it seem like I am on some all lives matter mess.
Black Americans have a top 10 amount of wealth world wide in the face of our current situation. We wouldn't be broke....
I hear you brotha. What I mean by broke is being an activist as MLK or Malcolm were. They gave up money, material things and eventually their lives to be on the front line fighting for black folks (This is something most folks aren't willing to do today). Those brothas could have made plenty of money going on college tours, speaking engagements and writing books and would have lived long lives with money in their pockets.
That is what I mean not that if black folks became separated from society that we couldn't cycle our money around.
I think MLK and Malcolm got killed cause they was about to go real hard with socialism. Those two were too powerful of leaders to be left alive to spread that message.
Being reactionary to the thoughts of entertainers uneducated in civil issues is not the best way to get them to shut up.
Please don't lump in Ghandi w MLK
Ghandi was an extreme exclusivist racist and sexual abuser
Please don't lump in Ghandi w MLK
Ghandi was an extreme exclusivist racist and sexual abuser
I am talking about methodology and techniques. Dr. King (and pretty much every African nation-builder and revolutionary of the age as well) had enormous respect for Gandhi and learned a lot from him and gave him enormous props. You go to the museum at MLK's childhood home in Atlanta, a good 1/3 of the museum is strictly devoted to Gandhi. Even though they couldn't meet before Gandhi was killed, Dr. King went to India anyway to meet with Gandhi's family and spent significant time there.
And like I said, the focus is on methodology, but the "Gandhi was an extreme exclusivist racist" claim was already debated in another thread and the evidence was clear. Gandhi was certainly racist for the first half of his life, until he had a budding awakening around 1909-1912, where the combination of his personal experiences with Africans in war and a book he read on the falsehood of racism turned his mind around. For the second half of his life, the last 35-40 years, he rejected racism. Look at the dates - Gandhi died in 1948, but all of his racist quotes are always from 40+ years before that. By the time he left Africa, he had enormous respect for Black Africans, and all his quotes about Africans and Black folk after that are extremely positive.
Just look at what the Black leaders of his time, from Africa and the USA both, had to say about him. They knew him MUCH better than we do, and they are quite heavy in their praise. To claim that we know Gandhi better than them because of a couple of quotes, when they were reading his work and seeing everything he did and even corresponding with him personally, is beyond arrogant and naive.
I haven't seen any evidence that he was a sexual abuser, but his sexual practices were weird as hell. Celibacy for the last 50 years of marriage or some shyt and doing enemas on himself and sleeping naked in the same bed as young women to prove his commitment to celibacy was total.
I ain't caping for any of that shyt.
