Charlamagne tha God vs Kwame Brown

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Thats not allegations thats what he pled down from.

"indictment"

a formal charge or accusation of a serious crime.

STAY IN SCHOOL FOLKS


nothing but lies and embellishment from emotional males

 

[TheBigBopper]

Nah you punk ass Canadian she was raped. They allowed him to plead to a lesser charge because the girls mother didnt want to go through a trial and she was too young to press forward herself




You are on the wrong side of history simply because you a foreign fukk boy trying to be a contrarian.

you do realize that if a case is strong, a prosecutor will pursue the charges, regardless of a non cooperating accuser, right? This is especially true in acts of violence against women.

if there was credible evidence that said otherwise, CTG would not have even been given the option to plead to a misdemeanor and the alleged victim’s lack of participation would not have impacted the outcome of the case. This was a weak fukking case and prosecution knew it.

again, none of us on here really know what happened, but non cooperation is nothing but a self serving answer that allows both the alleged victim and prosecution to save face. If we’re going down that route, the defense could easily counter and say “well, her mom wouldn’t let her participate because obviously her story was a lie and both the victim and the mother knew they wouldn’t be able to continue this charade any longer and not get found out.”

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Why die on the hill of unproven sexual assault allegations should not stand?

I dunno maybe look at your history Black man.

Do I need to tell you again that the video was specifically made by Choke AFTER his beef with Char. Do you think that possibly there might have been bias there?

I'm not the type of dude that rolls with a with hunt just because it's the wave. Think for your damn self at all times.

Let’s say he’s totally innocent of rape. You cool with 22 year olds “befriending” 15 year old girls, buying them alcohol and setting up get togethers in houses with them? Because he admitted all that.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

It’s amazing how the black community will overlook actual convictions and argue that the accused is guilty, whereas if the accused has certain personality flaws or simply isn’t looked at as a major contributor to black art or empowerment, even if he has been legally cleared, black folk still want to act as if an accusation means guilt. White folks do it too, but IMO, black people seem to be more prone to throw out facts and act on subjectivity.

case in point:

Tupac, Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson, R Kelly pre-2019–the first two were convicted and the latter two, while not convicted, behaved in questionable ways that in the very least raised moral concern. Nonetheless, all these guys have been heralded by the black community.

special mention: Prince. Black people like to go in on Woody Allen and perpetuate the lie that he married his adopted daughter, whereas no one ever brings up the fact that Prince literally did what Woody Allen time and time again has been falsely accused of doing!

Mayte Garcia Reveals Prince Adopted Her At 17 & Put Her On Birth Control A Week Before They Had Sex


I’m not defending child molesters or rapists, but it annoys me so much when people refuse to acknowledge facts. Why are people trying to cancel charlamagne, a man who was legally cleared, while we continue to bump Tupac and support Iron Mike yet these guys were convicted. It’s 100% hypocrisy.

You say this as if the American justice system never locked up and convicted innocent people. For less at that. We know what side you’re on.

 

[Big Boda]

you do realize that if a case is strong, a prosecutor will pursue the charges, regardless of a non cooperating accuser, right? This is especially true in acts of violence against women.

you do realize that is the best case scenario assuming courts always follow procedure to the letter and always render just verdicts when everyone knows that is not the case.

 

[TheBigBopper]

You say this as if the American justice system never locked up and convicted innocent people. For less at that. We know what side you’re on.

my point is that why don’t we exercise that sort of nuance for both the convicted and the acquitted? It seems like people are only afforded nuance if folks personally like them, regardless of the facts of the case.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

you do realize that if a case is strong, a prosecutor will pursue the charges, regardless of a non cooperating accuser, right? This is especially true in acts of violence against women.

if there was credible evidence that said otherwise, CTG would not have even been given the option to plead to a misdemeanor and the alleged victim’s lack of participation would not have impacted the outcome of the case. This was a weak fukking case and prosecution knew it.

again, none of us on here really know what happened, but non cooperation is nothing but a self serving answer that allows both the alleged victim and prosecution to save face. If we’re going down that route, the defense could easily counter and say “well, her mom wouldn’t let her participate because obviously her story was a lie and both the victim and the mother knew they wouldn’t be able to continue this charade any longer and not get found out.”

A lack of evidence does not mean, it did not take place. A whole movie was made about this called Law Abiding Citizen. You are so wrapped up in what can and cannot be proven in court. Do you want to die on this hill?

Let your daughter come home and tell you she’s been raped but the prosecutor says well we can’t prove it or her statement/recollection is unreliable so we are going to offer a plea to the accused that will give him 3 years probation. High five!

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Let’s say he’s totally innocent of rape. You cool with 22 year olds “befriending” 15 year old girls, buying them alcohol and setting up get togethers in houses with them? Because he admitted all that.

no i'm cool with factual statements

i'm opposed to lies

@Big Boda just posted an indictment as a plea agreement.

the discussion wasn't centred around wether it's ok for grown men to hang with kids and that doesn't mean that it's ok to lie about them being rapists neither. BECAUSE YOU DISLIKE THEM FOR OTHER REASONS.

 

[TheBigBopper]

A lack of evidence does not mean, it did not take place. A whole movie was made about this called Law Abiding Citizen. You are so wrapped in what can and cannot prove in court you want to die on this.

Let your daughter come home and tell you she’s been raped but the prosecutor says well we can’t prove it or her statement/recollection is unreliable so we are going to offer a plea to the accused that will give him 3 years probation. High five!

Of course it doesn’t, but likewise, why does that mean we should be quick to condemn him? In any event, shouldn’t we in the very least scrutinize the accusation with a little more vigor?

your second point isn’t relevant. People who are personally connected to the victim (reasonably) don’t care if nuance is used. There is only one form of justice acceptable to them and that’s punishment of the accused.

 

[Big Boda]

i'm opposed to lies

@Big Boda just posted an indictment as a plea agreement.

you lying like a damn karen. Nowhere in the post did i call that document a plea agreement. i said he pled down from those charges.

making canada look terrible right now

this how yall Toronto nikkas get down??? lying like chicks?

 

[Big Boda]

"indictment"



STAY IN SCHOOL FOLKS


nothing but lies and embellishment from emotional males

if we left it up to your lying ass no one would know that he has papers about putting his dikk in a child

he pled down from that charge. you never mentioned that Charlamagne went to court about having sex with a child.

 

[spliz]

U running around calling someone a rapist and it’s not true it is what it is. They both should stop speaking on eachother. But if more people put out cease and desist’s the less people would feel inclined to spew any bullshyt fake and slanderous news that come to they brain on a public forum. Especially if they are a public figure. Maybe this would force news outlets to do some due diligence before covering any random gossip that sounds juicy.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

you lying like a damn karen. Nowhere in the post did i call that document a plea agreement. i said he pled down from those charges.

making canada look terrible right now

this how yall Toronto nikkas get down??? lying like chicks?

we already knew he was charge with rape. what did you think you were proving by posting that?

READ BELOW AND UNDERSTAND

“The State allowed Mr. McKelvey to plead guilty to Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor and agreed to dismiss the remaining charge,” Ninth District Solicitor Scarlett Wilson noted in a statement released July 12. She added “The State’s prosecution has ended and the dismissed charge against Mr. McKelvey will not be resurrected. The law presumes that Mr. McKelvey is innocent of the dismissed allegation.”

that last sentence is very clear. this isn't like the cosby case where he took a plea to silence the case with a guilt of admission. "innocent of the dismissed allegations"

Charlamagne Tha God Is 'Innocent of Dismissed' 2001 Rape Case

 

[Big Boda]

U running around calling someone a rapist and it’s not true it is what it is. They both should stop speaking on eachother. But if more people put out cease and desist’s the less people would feel inclined to spew any bullshyt fake and slanderous news that come to they brain on a public forum. Especially if they are a public figure. Maybe this would force news outlets to do some due diligence before covering any random gossip that sounds juicy.

he did the shyt.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

if we left it up to your lying ass no one would know that he has papers about putting his dikk in a child

he pled down from that charge. you never mentioned that Charlamagne went to court about having sex with a child.

he has a rape allegation which was the basis of him going to court.

how would no one know if we are discussing his rape case this entire thread?

what kind of stupid muthatfuka are you?

what did you think rape meant?

"he has papars" yes those are formal charges that's what happens when you go to court.