CEO shooter/Luigi Mangione: **Gen Z enters the chat**

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Most people don't grow as individuals. Sorry to let you know that. And a MLC is just that, a crisis. That is not who that person is. And no people don't stop having life experiences at 29 or ANY age. I don't know why you think I said they do. Experiences don't equal growth. Thats why we have plenty people grown as fukk and still living like they were 20yrs ago. I know 40 and 50yr old nikkas doing the same shyt they were doing at 20. Life experiences are very underrated if you don't turn it into wisdom. The requires self awareness and effort.
-A person is who they are after the crisis & many people come out different on the other side for better or worse. We also have plenty grown people also don't live like they did 20 years ago. I for damn sure ain't the same person I was at 30 & neither are my siblings.

-Experiences can directly influence change & growth is subjective. You don't needed profound wisdom to experience something that changes the way you think or feel.
 

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Pronouns was not an identity issue that millennials had, it was one that the trannies and LGBTQ groups had. The same groups that claimed millennials (and older) discriminated against them and zoomers embraced. these talking points started in benefit of and served the young zoomers. Don't confuse the Alphabet folks identity issues as a millennial issue. Millennials are known as the narcissist generation, we have a very strong sense of self identity. We don't have identity issues. Just look at work environments that have both gens and you can't tell me that the ones pushing pronouns was us. The ones saying "ohhh you can't do that" was us. In my experience and those around me, it's not. Anecdotal, sure. But one that can be repeated over and over. Same with cancel culture. I won't argue that it started by millennials maybe but it took a whole diff turn with the social media crazed zoomers. With us it was celebrities, politicians etc. Zoomers took that shyt to every corner of the internet and world. Trying to cancel gas station workers who called a tranny a man or someone commenting on random shyt online.

And social norms aren't the same as social changes so career means nothing this regard. Social norms are about the culture and values and that's something that starts very young so don't negate that due to age. Those norms are already created and cultivated. The aspects of life they find entertaining, or focus on place value on is well underway even at 23. It's several years in the making by that point. Again, im not talking about social change, that comes later. And it will echo those values they take with them that they showcase now. These social norms will reflect as they age out. It's socially normal for them to be socially awkward, to be reclusive, prone to mental illness and depression. To have difficulties functioning in team environments and etc. This is all proven already.
Pronouns were a Miillennial issue because the transgender and LGTBQ people bringing the issue up were Millennials, and even younger Xers. This is like saying women's suffrage wasn't a Lost Generation issue, it was an issue that women had. A push in social change largely initiated by members of that given generation is their given issue.

Work environments are set by who exactly? Again, Zoomers do not have positions to change or enforce workplace policies. Cancel culture has been around for over a decade, Zoomers were too young to be a part of that. The pronoun attitude they have comes from people older than them pushing for inclusion.

Social norms are absolutely the same as social changes, and their ability to make policies to solidify or enforce norms are not yet present. How can a norm or change exist if there was no previous standard? Yes, they were already cultivated, you're killing your own argument. These values that you're claiming are already in them at 23 are not innate values.

Zoomers are too young to have shaped the cultural/social norms that you keep trying to assign to them out of cognitive dissonance. The personality traits you're describing are largely effects of the environment they were raised in and not created by them.
 

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Pronouns were a Miillennial issue because the transgender and LGTBQ people bringing the issue up were Millennials, and even younger Xers. This is like saying women's suffrage wasn't a Lost Generation issue, it was an issue that women had. A push in social change largely initiated by members of that given generation is their given issue.

Work environments are set by who exactly? Again, Zoomers do not have positions to change or enforce workplace policies. Cancel culture has been around for over a decade, Zoomers were too young to be a part of that. The pronoun attitude they have comes from people older than them pushing for inclusion.

Social norms are absolutely the same as social changes, and their ability to make policies to solidify or enforce norms are not yet present. How can a norm or change exist if there was no previous standard? Yes, they were already cultivated, you're killing your own argument. These values that you're claiming are already in them at 23 are not innate values.

Zoomers are too young to have shaped the cultural/social norms that you keep trying to assign to them out of cognitive dissonance. The personality traits you're describing are largely effects of the environment they were raised in and not created by them.
Women are at least half the population so that falls as a very flawed comparison. Unlike women issues, Gays are too few of the populace to say that their issues are the issues of an entire generation. We are just going to disagree on this and don't have to exhaust either of energy convincing the other.

You see saying and equating "change" to something existing. They are not the same nor mutually exclusive. Social norms of a demographic does not equal social change of the general public. There's a reason I didn't mention policies and politics because those social changes. Example being gays being in openly gay relationships due to acceptance is a social norm. Gays gaining the right to get married is social change. These two things are very different.

Using some arbitrary numbers, let's say that 25% of millennials believe something like gender affirmation to be acceptable. This is not a social norm of millennials given the percentage of what they believe in general. But if that 25% is able to create social change and legislation to defend gender affirmation, that starts in childhood...and these social changes are allowed to penetrate the youth in such a way that by the time they are teenagers and young adults, zoomers have the mindset of these gender affirmations and the majority of zoomers share this viewpoint then THAT IS THEIR SOCIAL NORM. And in this scenario, the numbers do not support millennials sharing the same social norms as zoomers. Zoomers share their fledging social norms of that MINORITY number of millennials. So zoomers having their mindsets now doesn't mean that they got their because of the general millennial population. They got there from the vocal minority. And we know exactly who that vocal minority is that affected those changes to start the ball rolling. Most millennials are narcissistically apathetic so we don't really care about what other people do. The vocal minority benefitted from that to bring about social change within the generation. Now that change was the starting point for gen z and they took it even further. So its not that you're wrong but you're attributing their values to our general values instead of the minority values that preceded zoomers new norm.
 

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Women are at least half the population so that falls as a very flawed comparison. Unlike women issues, Gays are too few of the populace to say that their issues are the issues of an entire generation. We are just going to disagree on this and don't have to exhaust either of energy convincing the other.

You see saying and equating "change" to something existing. They are not the same nor mutually exclusive. Social norms of a demographic does not equal social change of the general public. There's a reason I didn't mention policies and politics because those social changes. Example being gays being in openly gay relationships due to acceptance is a social norm. Gays gaining the right to get married is social change. These two things are very different.

Using some arbitrary numbers, let's say that 25% of millennials believe something like gender affirmation to be acceptable. This is not a social norm of millennials given the percentage of what they believe in general. But if that 25% is able to create social change and legislation to defend gender affirmation, that starts in childhood...and these social changes are allowed to penetrate the youth in such a way that by the time they are teenagers and young adults, zoomers have the mindset of these gender affirmations and the majority of zoomers share this viewpoint then THAT IS THEIR SOCIAL NORM. And in this scenario, the numbers do not support millennials sharing the same social norms as zoomers. Zoomers share their fledging social norms of that MINORITY number of millennials. So zoomers having their mindsets now doesn't mean that they got their because of the general millennial population. They got there from the vocal minority. And we know exactly who that vocal minority is that affected those changes to start the ball rolling. Most millennials are narcissistically apathetic so we don't really care about what other people do. The vocal minority benefitted from that to bring about social change within the generation. Now that change was the starting point for gen z and they took it even further. So its not that you're wrong but you're attributing their values to our general values instead of the minority values that preceded zoomers new norm.
It's not a flawed comparision, it's apt because you chose to marginalize a particular thing to one group and ignore the age range of those who are the face of the issue. It doesn't matter how few gays are, the generation of them who brought the pronoun and alphabet issue to the mainstream belong to the Young X and Millennial Generations.

Social changes of a demographic are social changes of the general public when the general public has to begin to adapt to the changes that demographic has pushed for and accomplished. You're playing semantics regarding legal policy in your relationship/marriage example, one leads to the other. Again, change can only exist if a norm has been established.

You're trying to use raw numbers and percentages when social evolution doesn't work that way. There is virtually no forward movement that everyone falls in line with all at once. Millennials gave Zoomers the ideology they run with now. There's no way around it.
 

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So basically nikkas die everyday B? I get it and I’m not necessarily mad at what this person is saying, but shyt like this is said after the school shooting. People just jump out there to say the wildest shyt they can to go viral. We got to start having smoke for these school shooters families and friends.. You can’t even go to a store without worrying about some kid that got dumped or a racist possibly coming in to spray the place. You can’t go to work without the possibility of some crazy person who got fired coming in to take folks out. People got to stop just trying to drop fly sound bites and actually do something. You can get mad at lawmakers and media all you want but none of them would matter if folk nipped this shyt in the bus at home. I never wanted to touch a gun as a kid and I don’t care for them now. What happened to those kids?
:gucci: So instead of lawmakers creating sensible gun legislation you advocate for vigilantism. This election should have shown people how dumb their neighbors are. IQs are dropping faster than we are losing recipes and you wanna empower these same everyday joes to become the punisher:pachaha:
 

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:gucci: So instead of lawmakers creating sensible gun legislation you advocate for vigilantism. This election should have shown people how dumb their neighbors are. IQs are dropping faster than we are losing recipes and you wanna empower these same everyday joes to become the punisher:pachaha:
**problem occurs**

“I’m confusion, need more guns”


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AmeriKKKan logic in a nutshell
 

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Gen z is just the first gen since the early 1900s that’s living in decline.

And shyt won’t get better until millennials take power in the next 30-40 years.

Baby boomers haven’t even taken power yet.
 

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-Believing this bullshyt only keeps people from trying to grow as individuals. There's also the fact that people have a mid life crisis & change themselves all the time after 30. People don't stop having life experiences at 29.
Real shyt.

One of the problems in society is these blockhead motherfks who go around thinking there's nothing anyone can teach them.

Education isn't only for children and it isn't a thing you do and then never ever engage in again. Education is a life long process and learning is something you are supposed to continue doing until your last breath.

As I've grown older I've developed less tolerance for stubbornness and argumentativeness people who will debate you over everything instead of just fukking opening their ears and listening.

I'm at a point now where if a ngga wants to argue with scientists over the risk of drinking raw milk or vaccinations, that they should just die. Let them die, don't try to save them. Evolution needs to take its course and weed out the stupid so the species can survive.
 
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