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Tf I look like listening to gospel music
Some of that gospel music is amazing. Not to mention they focus on talented vocalists and musicians.

As well, some of your favorite singers, producers, and DJs came out of the black church community going WAY back...
 

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Has she started singing Backtrack yet to clear her name..:rudy:

Bible thumper should have been wise to avoid anything Trump related.
Trump is literally the most ungodly President ever.

How evangerlicals and christians support him is beyond me...but they are completely full of shyt and are fooling themselves if they think they're going to go to heaven when it's all said and done in the afterlife while supporting the anti-christ in the present.

Christianity really took a hit to the gut from Trump supporters....same with patriotism. Absolutely b*stardized by these idiots.
 

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Trump is literally the most ungodly President ever.

How evangerlicals and christians support him is beyond me...but they are completely full of shyt and are fooling themselves if they think they're going to go to heaven when it's all said and done in the afterlife while supporting the anti-christ in the present.

Christianity really took a hit to the gut from Trump supporters....same with patriotism. Absolutely b*stardized by these idiots.

White supremacy..

Dont assume these holier than thou motherfukkers are not some ungodly heathens pushing their own pure white agenda for the country using the bible for cover.

The Black believers will be naive as usual and follow their white evangelicals off a cliff.

The moment trump made it clear he wanted to make america white again is when the evangelicals came running.
 

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Trump is literally the most ungodly President ever.

How evangerlicals and christians support him is beyond me...but they are completely full of shyt and are fooling themselves if they think they're going to go to heaven when it's all said and done in the afterlife while supporting the anti-christ in the present.

Christianity really took a hit to the gut from Trump supporters....same with patriotism. Absolutely b*stardized by these idiots.

White supremacy..

Dont assume these holier than thou motherfukkers are not some ungodly heathens pushing their own pure white agenda for the country using the bible for cover.

The Black believers will be naive as usual and follow their white evangelicals off a cliff.

The moment trump made it clear he wanted to make america white again is when the evangelicals came running.

I'm never surprised white evangelicals are racists since they historically always have been.

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Southern Baptist Seminary Confronts History Of Slaveholding And 'Deep Racism'
December 13, 201810:02 AM ET
Tom Gjelten


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Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President R. Albert Mohler, Jr. speaks at the school's convocation ceremony in 2013. Mohler, who has led the seminary for 25 years, commissioned a report on the role racism and support for slavery played in its origin and growth.

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The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, came into being in 1845 as the church of Southern slaveholders.

Now, 173 years later, Southern Baptist leaders are not just acknowledging their dark history; they are documenting it, as if by telling the story in wrenching detail, they may finally be freed of its taint.

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the denomination's flagship institution, this week released a 71-page report on the role that racism and support for slavery played in its origin and growth.

"The founding fathers of this school — all four of them — were deeply involved in slavery and deeply complicit in the defense of slavery," writes school President R. Albert Mohler Jr., in a letter accompanying the report. "Many of their successors on this faculty, throughout the period of Reconstruction and well into the 20th century, advocated the inferiority of African-Americans and openly embraced the ideology of the Lost Cause of southern slavery."

Mohler, who has led the seminary since 1993, commissioned the history report, which was compiled by a committee of six current and former seminary faculty members, and he promised from the outset that it would be released to the public without editing.

We knew, and we could not fail to know, that slavery and deep racism were in the story.

R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

"We have been guilty of a sinful absence of historical curiosity," Mohler, 59, wrote in the introductory letter. "We knew, and we could not fail to know, that slavery and deep racism were in the story. We comforted ourselves that we could know this, but since these events were so far behind us, we could move on without awkward and embarrassing investigations and conversations."

That story is now told, in a way only Southern Baptists themselves could tell it. The report draws heavily on seminary archives, including correspondence among the four founders. Among them, they held more than 50 enslaved persons.

The report acknowledges that the only reason a separate Southern Baptist denomination was formed was because northern Baptists refused to appoint slaveholders as missionaries.

"The seminary's early faculty and trustees defended the righteousness of slaveholding," the report says, "and opposed efforts to limit the institution."

Some of them argued that slavery was in the best interests of the slaves themselves, while others insisted it was "a God-ordained institution." The seminary leaders opposed Abraham Lincoln's election and argued vigorously on the eve of the Civil War in favor of secession, seeing it "as the only hope for preserving slavery."

During the postwar Reconstruction period, the seminary leaders opposed political representation for African-Americans and explicitly advocated white supremacy. For much of the 20th century, seminary leaders defended racial segregation and refused to admit black students. Seminary classrooms were not integrated until 1951.

"It's a very difficult story," Mohler told NPR. "But it needed to be told. It needed to be documented, and it needed to be done now."

The Southern Baptist Convention formally apologized to African-Americans in 1995 for the denomination's pro-slavery past, and in 2017, the convention adopted a resolution condemning white supremacy. The seminary's report nevertheless breaks new ground. The "history" section of the current SBTS website does not disclose that its founders were slave owners and ardent defenders of the institution of slavery.

"One of the first things that will happen is that our institutional history will be revised," Mohler said.

What that might entail is not yet clear. There are no statues of the founders on the campus to remove, according to Mohler, although the seminary's undergraduate college is named after James P. Boyce, one of the four founders, and some buildings and student associations carry the names of other pro-slavery seminary leaders.

"Taking the names off in a sense is just an effort to hide," Mohler said. "This is our story. This is exactly who we are. Our responsibility is to serve God faithfully, both in what we retain and in what we reject from those who came before us."

The seminary today admits black students, and some Southern Baptist congregations are led by African-American ministers. The denomination these days is distinguished from other Baptist groupings by its heightened evangelical identity and by the theological and political conservatism of many of its leaders.

Notwithstanding the seminary's new openness about its pro-slavery past, the detailed chronology ends in 1964. "In the decades following the civil rights movement, the seminary continued to struggle with the legacy of slavery and racism," the report concludes, but without further elaboration.

"Making a statement about Confederate monuments might be a next step," says Alison Greene, a historian of U.S. religion at Emory University in Atlanta, "or taking a stand on questions of voting rights in the 21st century. That would be really significant."

Greene, who was raised as a Southern Baptist, found the seminary report lacking in its failure to acknowledge any consequence of the denomination's recent association with conservative politicians and the policies they have promoted.

"It papers over a generation of hand-in-glove cooperation with efforts to roll back every single social program that served African-Americans or promised to rectify, even in the smallest ways, the gross economic and social effects of enslavement and segregation and inequality on black communities," Greene says.




Southern Baptists are changing their name so people forget they were founded by slavery supporters

Southern Baptists are changing their name so people forget they were founded by slavery supporters
Despite leaders' overwhelming support for Donald Trump and his racist statements and policies, they say “We as Baptists want to be defined by 2025, not by 1845.”

Southern Baptist Convention leaders are trying to jettison the racist connotation that comes with the denomination’s name. Instead, they’re starting to call themselves “Great Commission Baptists.”

But while the PR move may gloss over the racist roots of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, but major figures in the group have maintained close ties with President Donald Trump. Trump’s racist tweets and actions – along with the support of the convention’s leadership – all stand in direct opposition to the group’s stated goals for transitioning.



The convention was formed in 1845 in a split with Northern Baptists over slavery. Southern Baptists insisted that missionaries should be able to own other human beings.

“Our Lord Jesus was not a White Southerner but a brown-skinned Middle Eastern refugee,” said convention president J.D. Greear. “Every week we gather to worship a savior who died for the whole world, not one part of it. What we call ourselves should make that clear.”

Earlier this year, Greear used the phrase “Black lives matter” in a presidential address and announced that he would retire a historic gavel named for an enslaver.

The convention will continue to bear the name “Southern Baptists,” instead using “Great Commission Baptists” publicly. They say changing the group’s name officially would cost too much money. With over 14 million members tithing big bucks every Sunday, the cost to print new stationery and change some legal documents must be exorbitant.

Ronnie Floyd, the head of the convention’s executive committee, was on President Trump’s evangelical advisory council during the 2016 campaign.

This isn’t the first time lately that the Southern Baptists have stumbled while trying to look more modern and welcoming – and, once again, the leadership’s support of Trump put the lie to their halfhearted attempts to model their savior.

Paige Patterson, a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention and a founding father of the modern religious right movement, had come under fire for advising a woman to stick with her husband, who was battering her and then justifying the abuse as ultimately leading the husband to church.

In the past, Patterson’s comments–as well as others in which he praised the libido of a teen boy who had called an underaged girl “built”–would have earned him a hearty tsk-tsk from his colleagues. But apparently even the Southern Baptists had to acknowledge the changing times.

Church History: The Racist Heresy in Southern Baptist History - Timothy Paul Jones

Church History: The Racist Heresy in Southern Baptist History

15th September 2016

The founders of the Southern Baptist Convention and of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary were zealous defenders of biblical orthodoxy.

They were also heretics.


Their heresy was racism, and this heresy ran deep within them.

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James Petigru Boyce and John A. Broadus were founding faculty members of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary; they were also slaveowners who served as chaplains in the Confederate army. Basil Manly, Sr., served as the founding chair of the board of trustees at Southern Seminary. This same man owned forty slaves and flogged at least one of them as punishment. Manly declared that, when it came to his right to buy and to sell African Americans, “I had no more doubt or compunction than in pocketing the price of a horse or anything else that belonged to me.” Manly’s son and namesake drafted the Abstract of Principles that every professor still signs when elected to the faculty of the seminary.

The Southern Baptist Convention was founded in 1845

by men who held to an ideology of racial superiority and who bathed that ideology in scandalous theological argument. At times, white superiority was defended by a putrid exegesis of the Bible that claimed a “curse of Ham” as the explanation of dark skin—an argument that reflects such ignorance of Scripture and such shameful exegesis that it could only be believed by those who were looking for an argument to satisfy their prejudices.

these people have never been on the right side of history. :pacspit:
 

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In all honesty who cares who CECE is voting for

Just don’t buy or listen to her music

nikkas be so invested in who celebrities vote for, but nikkas wearing brands , shopping in stores and buying cars and rooting for sports teams where their top executives are Republicans and donating to trump and others
 

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No clue who that is but fukk em

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Stop trying to explain to them, brehs. They all fake militants so we all c00ns to them unless we agree with what they saying :heh:

Like I said; I don’t care about Trump either. But I have gotten benefits while he’s been president that I never got under Obama. And that’s really is all that matters :yeshrug:

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This isn’t about him or his views. This is about the betterment of the people. And like I said, my nikkas doing more well then under Obama’s 8 years.

I don’t think Trump is doing that bad :mjgrin:

And I’m for the wall:mjgrin:

And I’m Hard On Illegal immigrants :mjgrin:

And I love bytches with fake body parts :wow:

And Beyoncé does nothing for me sexually :mjgrin:

And Holly Berry ain’t that good looking :mjgrin:
 
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